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According to the US Census, 76.6% of the population is "White alone", and half (roughly) of the population is female, so 23.4% of the population is non-White, and half (roughly) of that would be 11.7%. I just don't see how that adds up to 18%.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217

That includes Hispanic and Latino. The white percentage you want is farther down, white non Hispanic.

Hispanics can be white, so that number would be misleading.

Here ya go.

53% of Hispanics consider themselves white.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/raul-a-reyes/what-is-a-white-hispanic_b_14086306.html

You are RIGHT! Why should we bother counting the votes? Trump can just declare the victor! Just like Putin would. Or Hitler.

For the to be diversity in government positions, there needs to be an appropriate number of diverse candidates.

Why do more people that create the diversity not run, and of those that do run, are their qualifications valid enough to be elected?

U know.. lol

The party of morals, law, and order, need to cheat to win.

Trump does, and he’s the deplorable leader of the GOP

Hell yes. 75% of total turnout would be the death of the GOP forever. That’s why they cheat and suppress voter turnout by gerrymandering and limiting voting sites in known Democrat districts. They don’t even hide it anymore with GOP controlled congress.

Democrats have to beat GOP apponents by a 10% margin to secure a seat now since the GOP leadership want to stop counting votes in close races across the country. Deplorable right?

To be honest I don't particularly care which "side" wins if there is 75% voter turnout .... it's the fact that more people paying attention and caring about what happens and who is elected and then watching what those elected actually do would lead to better government and higher accountability. What do most individuals recognize if you find people willing to have a meaningful political discussion (something you hardly ever see here for example).... Have a serious and civil discussion with someone you disagree with on a political spectrum and normally both sides tend to agree COMPROMISE is necessary. . . . Did Obama get any compromise when he was in power - none. Trump won't either most likely - does that help the country? Not a bit. Maybe if 75% of the people were paying attention and voting they could force parties to work together. Crazy thought I know.

Yes, quite probably. see above.

I think the GOP is in some mild danger on this front.

FOX and Trump have legitimately convinced the hooting rubes that this never happened.

They’re gonna dig in their heels.

Lawyers for Gillum, Nelson campaigns objected to noncitizen's vote being denied


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawyers...te-being-denied

Lawyers for the Florida Democratic gubernatorial and Senate candidates objected Friday to the rejection of a provisional ballot cast by a noncitizen, according to a transcript obtained by Fox News.

The incident occurred during a canvassing meeting Friday in Palm Beach County, where provisional ballots were being examined. According to the draft transcript of the meeting, taken by a court reporter hired by the Florida Republican Party, a provisional ballot was ordered excluded from the count, as it came from a non-U.S. citizen.

“First one of these we’ve seen,” said Judge August Bonativa.

“Not a U.S. citizen, not counted.” said Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher, according to the transcript.

It was at this point where lawyers representing Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., issued objections -- although they did not give reasons for those objections. The objections were noted, but the vote was still not counted.

The Nelson campaign distanced itself from the objections, which it said that it had not authorized.

“The lawyer who was present was not someone we had authorized to make such an objection. Noncitizens cannot vote in U.S. elections," Marc Elias, recount attorney for the Nelson campaign, said in a statement. The Gillum campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

The controversy comes amid a broader fight over the Senate and gubernatorial races, in which leads for Republicans have shrunk, leading the state’s secretary of state to order a recount on Saturday.

Republicans have questioned the handling of the votes, particularly in Palm Beach and Broward counties, and have pointed to past controversies in Broward in particular as evidence that voter fraud may be underway. On Saturday, President Trump said Democrats were “trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida!”

Democrats have claimed that Republicans are trying to stop all the votes from being counted as the race has started to favor the Democrats.

Republicans saw Friday’s objection in Palm Beach County as an indication of the tactics Democrats were prepared to use.

“We think it is a sign of desperation and goes to demonstrate the tactics that the Democrats, especially the Florida Democratic Party, Andrew Gillum’s campaign and Bill Nelson’s campaign, will resort to to steal this election from the rightful winners -- Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis,” Michael Barnett, chairman of the Palm Beach County Republican Party, told Fox News.

“It’s shameful, there’s no excuse for objecting to the rejection of a non-U.S. citizen vote, but this is just one example of the shenanigans and corruption we’ve seen from the Democrats in Florida for so many years. We will not let them steal this election from us,” he said.

The results of the machine recount are due by Nov. 15. On Saturday, Trump warned that “we are watching closely.”

Some of the people on the records were 125 years old. The Dems will keep finding ballots until they win.

And the liberals worry about Russian interference. They cheat in each and every election and when they do not win they blame others for cheating.

Well even a Russian can be non citizens so if they are wanting non citizens to vote are they not having Russia meddling in the voting process? Oh those two faced pesky Dems.

It depends. People can vote and still not pay attention. If people are blindly voting for whomever a celebrity tells them to or blindly voting for whomever has an R or D next to their name, 75% voter turnout isn't going to change things.

We need people to pay attention more than just at election time. 2005 is the last time congress had an approval rating over 40%, yet these politicians keep getting reelected.

In some cases, there is the issue of complexity. For example, in Colorado, there was a proposal about limiting drilling. There was the "oil companies are evil" crowd and the "drill baby drill" crowd that voted for or against it by default without caring about what it actual said. I saw a lot of people in discussion that said whats being proposed goes beyond their understanding and felt they should not be the one to have a say in it.

Dead Republican brothel owner wins election in Nevada

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...a-idUSKCN1NC1YT


(Reuters) - A brothel-owning, evangelical Christian-backed Republican candidate who died last month won his race for the Nevada state legislature late on Tuesday, according to state election officials.

Dennis Hof, 72, defeated Democratic candidate and educator Lesia Romanov in the race for Nevada’s 36th Assembly District, earning about 68 percent of the vote. County officials said they would appoint a replacement candidate from the same party for his seat.

A representative for Romanov did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Hof, who presented himself as an American pimp, was a strip-club owner who ran multiple brothels. He had nicknamed himself the “Trump from Pahrump,” after the town where he lived in Nevada.

In a June interview with Reuters at Moonlite BunnyRanch, his brothel near his home in Pahrump, Nevada, Hof said his political fortunes had parallels with those of U.S. President Donald Trump. (reut.rs/2IdFeHn)

“This really is the Trump movement,” Hof said. “People will set aside for a moment their moral beliefs, their religious beliefs, to get somebody that is honest in office.”

Chuck Muth, Hof’s campaign manager, was one of many who predicted last month that Hof would win, stating that Republicans had a two-to-one advantage over Democrats in the state Assembly district in terms of voter registration.

“I know Republicans in Nevada got massacred tonight, but my man Dennis Hof crushed his opponent from the great beyond in AD-36 & we crushed the anti-brothel initiative in Lyon County by about 80%,” Muth wrote on Twitter on Wednesday. “So pardon me, but I’m celebrating.”

The Nye County Sheriff’s Office said Hof was found dead last month at one of his properties in Crystal, Nevada. It was not immediately clear what caused his death.
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Friends found him dead when they went to wake him for a meeting hours after his 72nd birthday party, his campaign manager, Chuck Muth, said on Twitter. He said Hof appeared to have died in his sleep.

The thrice-divorced author of “The Art of the Pimp,” who appeared on HBO’s “Cathouse,” owned a strip club and five legal brothels in Nevada, the only U.S. state with legalized prostitution.

I think the main reason it would make a difference is that the conservative base is more driven to vote for their guy/party than the liberal base is. They will vote to make sure they win, instead of not voting or voting for a fringe candidate that won't win, and then complaining about it after.

This is great! The blue wave has the deplorables on their heels.

That's possible. Anything is *possible* in a theoretical discussion. . . and I'm sure voters sometimes get choices wrong regardless of how complex an issue is.

But regardless of whatever theoretical argument you want to put up for 75% of the population voting - the exact same argument can be made for the 49% that just voted .... so in general and in each and every case I think having 75% vote would be preferable to 49%. There isn't a scenario where that doesn't play.

Who knew blue waves caused orange outrage? Gonna have to start calling POTUS Diamond Don with all the pressure he's under now! AND everybody is calling out his corrupt attempt to hijack the Mueller investigation.

Did you see that he couldn't be bothered to visit the WWWI Train car memorial because it rained? SMH Such a loser.

I think we may be looking at two different things here.

The people in office would probably be different. So there would be a difference. But as to whether there would actually be a difference in terms of the effectiveness of government or an improvement in our life, that's debatable.

And if they consider themselves white, they would mark it as such on their census forms. This helps out my claim, not you, as more people changing their listed background to white means the white listing gets more people listed, increasing the percentage.

See, this is racist and sexist to think that a person of color or woman is the only way to represent someone.

Americans can be represented by Americans, to live a prosperous life in America,

Asigning skin color and sex to a pollitican is the beginning or racism in politics.

The bottom line is democrats don't have any plan to make the life of Americans living in the 50 states of the USA any better or more prosperous.

But they put a constant focus on division through identity politics.

When was the Blue wave? I must have missed it......And Trump blowing off the WW1 thing was bad real bad. But I remember Obama blowing off the Boy Scouts 100 year celebration to attend a Muslin pray party. Where was your outrage then?

It's not about representing someone. It's about representing everyone. Having a few hundred sexagenarian white men in Congress and little else is not at all representative of the country. It's not racism or sexism to want Congress to better represent the nation's population. It's of the people, for the people.

If all you're seeing is someone's race , then you're simplifying people to just their race. What a shame.What Im after are people's experiences. A diverse team at work is more effective than a homogenous one because of the variety of experience. It works in the workplace, it will work in Congress, and lead to better representation as we benefit from a diversity of experiences.

UPDATE: Uh oh: Broward mixed rejected ballots with valid ones

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics...ith-valid-ones/

The mistake — for which no one had a solution Friday night — was discovered after Snipes agreed to present 205 provisional ballots to the Broward County canvassing board for inspection





Broward's elections supervisor accidentally mixed more than a dozen rejected ballots with nearly 200 valid ones, a circumstance that is unlikely to help Brenda Snipes push back against Republican allegations of incompetence.

The mistake — for which no one had a solution Friday night — was discovered after Snipes agreed to present 205 provisional ballots to the Broward County canvassing board for inspection. She had initially intended to handle the ballots administratively, but agreed to present them to the canvassing board after Republican attorneys objected.

"We have found no clear authority controlling the situation faced by the board," said Broward County Attorney Andrew Meyers.

On Election Day, Broward County collected more than 600 provisional ballots. The vast majority were declared invalid by the county's canvassing board judges for reasons ranging from registering to vote too late to previously voting to voting at the wrong precinct.

But a couple hundred provisional ballots were held in limbo. Those ballots were the result of a connectivity issue in the system that precincts use to look up voter registrations, said Pat Nesbit, the elections day operations manager for Broward County. Voters would swipe their ID and the precinct system would show they weren't registered voters. But when staffers called the Broward elections headquarters, the voter's registration would appear. Precinct workers had those 205 voters fill out provisional ballots.

On Election Day, Broward election staffers set those 205 votes aside, removed the anonymous ballots from their signed envelopes and counted them up in a voting machine that didn't add those numbers to the final vote count. The elections department didn't originally intend to have the canvassing board review those votes, but after uproar from lawyers for the Republican Party, the office handed them over to the board, which usually reviews ballots still in the envelopes.

On Friday, the three-person canvassing board — on which Snipes usually sits — found about 20 of those 205 votes had mismatched signatures and declared them illegal. That means there are at least 20 illegal votes mixed into an anonymous pile of 205, all sitting in a machine that counted them but did not add them to the final count.

"The ballots cannot be identified," Snipes confirmed when a lawyer for the Republican Party asked.

Republican Party lawyers immediately pressed Snipes about the future of those 205 votes and if they'd be counted. Snipes declined to answer and continued judging signatures on remaining ballots. There is no statute guiding what happens next.

"This process doesn't exist. The process is that the ballots aren't opened. I would suggest to the board that this process would stop," said Leonard Collins, a lawyer for the Florida Republican Party.

Broward must present its unofficial vote total from the midterm elections to the state by noon Saturday. Recounts are expected in races for U.S. Senate, governor and commissioner of agriculture, and Snipes has become a target for Republican politicians alleging corruption and incompetence after her office was still counting thousands of early and absentee ballots in the days following Tuesday's election.

The board concluded its Friday session about 10:30 p.m., but the supervisor of elections has not yet announced a decision on how to handle the ballots.


(UPDATE — 3:35 p.m.: Twenty-two improperly cast ballots, considered void due to mismatched signatures and other violations, were included Saturday in the final vote totals submitted by Broward County to the Florida Secretary of State's office.

The illegal votes were part of a batch of 205 provisional ballots that were reviewed by the Broward canvassing board Friday evening.
Broward Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes accidentally mixed the valid ballots with the invalid ones after she had initially removed the ballots from their envelopes.

Snipes recommended the canvassing board include the entire batch in its returns, despite vehement opposition from attorneys for Florida Gov. Rick Scott's campaign for the U.S. Senate. Snipes said Saturday that it "seems unfair to me to disenfranchise 205 voters at the expense of a small number."

"And if that's being unfair to anyone, I don't think it's a large enough number to affect the difference between who comes out of the recount as a victor," she added.

After the county met its noon deadline to submit unofficial vote totals to the office of Secretary of State Ken Detzner, the general counsel for Snipes, Eugene Pettis, said the entire batch was "included in the process" and counted.

William Scherer, an attorney for Scott's Senate campaign, said, without offering evidence, that some of the illegal ballots included instances of double voting.

"They keep the door open so that the rats can run in, rather than the rats run out," said Scherer, who represented George W. Bush in Florida's 2000 presidential recount. "Every vote counts. Do you count every illegal vote?")

You are always telling us how smart you are. Do you really believe what is going on in Florida is on the up & up?

I think it is just more corrupt Dems doing what Dems do. Democrats are trying to ruin America.

No you don't. The conservative mind is a breeding ground for boogeymen. Being afraid of everything does not make you righteous, it makes you sad and pathetic.

Those in power are feeding conservative news (working with the new state propagandist) headlines to frighten you, confuse you, and keep you hating your dem brothers and sisters. Say no to the lies.

my favorite part of the whole mditerms:

no dumbass wall will be getting built.

My favorite part is Trump crapping his pants! January is the beginning of the end.

Florida attorney general directs law enforcement to take steps to ‘guarantee integrity' in elections

BY MICHAEL BURKE - 11/11/18 05:45 PM EST

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (R) said Sunday that she is directing the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) to take steps to "guarantee integrity in our elections process" amid Republican accusations of voter fraud in two counties in the state.

Bondi's directive comes after the FDLE said Friday that it hadn't launched an investigation into election officials in Broward and Palm Beach counties because there was no evidence of fraud.

Bondi wrote in a letter to FDLE commissioner Rick Swearingen that she doesn't see how the FDLE "can legitimately refuse" to open an investigation.

“I fail to see how the Florida Department of Law Enforcement can legitimately refuse to investigate where there is reasonable suspicion that may lead to the discovery of criminal conduct of the 2018 election — actions that gravely damage Floridians’ confidence in our electoral process and our democracy," she wrote.

“I am directing you to take the necessary steps to promote public safety and to assure that our state will guarantee integrity in our elections process," Bondi added.




Both the FDLE and the Florida Department of State have said that they’ve seen no credible allegations of elections fraud or criminal activity.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R), who is the GOP Senate candidate facing off against incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), previously called for an investigation into election fraud in the two counties.

Scott and President Trump have accused Democrats of trying to "steal" the elections in Florida, where the race between Scott and Nelson as well as the gubernatorial race between Andrew Gillum (D) and Ron DeSantis (R) are headed for recounts.

Bondi wrote in her letter to Swearingen that she was "deeply troubled" that the FDLE had not opened an investigation.

"Transparent and fair elections are the bedrock of our democracy, and protecting the integrity of our electoral process is central to the oath you and I both took to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the State of Florida," she wrote.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...o-take-steps-to


So Republicans don't feel the need need evidence to investigate... Sounds like a real witch hunt to me. I think this is an abuse of the power of her office.

OCD, come on. Like last week you were saying investigate everything, now it's a witch hunt.

I'm not opposed to an investigation, I'm opposed to the FDLE saying there is no cause to investigate BUT a republican AG decides to order it anyway. You can't see that slippery slope?

Sinema defeats McSally in Arizona, Cook Political Report projects

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...report-projects

Dems pick up a Senate seat

I can but weren't we in on the "investigate everything"?