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So for this half-season remaining, I hope we see progress; you do as well. New game responsibilities. We want results. So if we are to be judged as better, what progress will you need to see? I started this threader Atlanta, but move it if it fits better elsewhere. Curious because a number are mentioning some backsliding, underachieving, lack of effort, or words to that effect in diverse threads. What would show some of that culture change we been trumpeting around some forums? My take is pretty simple:
More sacks,
More tackles (earlier and especially for loss),
More points output,
Less penalties.


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Normally I'd agree with HotByYoungTurk above that it's all about wins, but we are in a special circumstance (what else is new?).

Therefore I'd say Baker getting better each week is the key. By week 16 I'd like to see him properly calling audibles, coverage, beating the blitz (yes even when we miss a block, Brees/Rivers/Brady level QBs still eat that up with at worst a quick throwaway to avoid the hit).

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The progress of Baker is going to dictate the entire thing.

If he progresses we'll be okay.

If the 52 other roster members progress and Baker doesn't we'll still suck.


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Originally Posted By: myka
Normally I'd agree with HotByYoungTurk above that it's all about wins, but we are in a special circumstance (what else is new?).

Therefore I'd say Baker getting better each week is the key. By week 16 I'd like to see him properly calling audibles, coverage, beating the blitz (yes even when we miss a block, Brees/Rivers/Brady level QBs still eat that up with at worst a quick throwaway to avoid the hit).



But did they do that in their rookie year? You can't compare a rookie to 3 of the best QB's to play over the last 20 years.

Well, you can, it just isn't realistic.


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Normally I'd agree with HotByYoungTurk above that it's all about wins, but we are in a special circumstance (what else is new?).

Therefore I'd say Baker getting better each week is the key. By week 16 I'd like to see him properly calling audibles, coverage, beating the blitz (yes even when we miss a block, Brees/Rivers/Brady level QBs still eat that up with at worst a quick throwaway to avoid the hit).



But did they do that in their rookie year? You can't compare a rookie to 3 of the best QB's to play over the last 20 years.

Well, you can, it just isn't realistic.


And I would add that those three have confidence that there dump off guy will be there I'm not sure Baker does?

Seems like other teams always have that one guy waiting for the dump off I'm not sure we do.

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The progress of Baker is going to dictate the entire thing.

If he progresses we'll be okay.

If the 52 other roster members progress and Baker doesn't we'll still suck.


I hope you all realize how well he is playing already...agreed progress is expected and actually being seen with every start.

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The progress of Baker is going to dictate the entire thing.

If he progresses we'll be okay.

If the 52 other roster members progress and Baker doesn't we'll still suck.


I hope you all realize how well he is playing already...agreed progress is expected and actually being seen with every start.

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I concur. Granted last week was against a poor defense, but that’s what you are supposed to do against poor defenses. And, even against a poor D, I’ll take 300/2/1.

We have to remember that BM’s game is predicated on the play of everyone else on the offense. All the pieces/parts gotta work together.

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I'll judge the current group coaching this team by the exact same standard everyone said they were judging Hue by, wins. Put up or shut up time.


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I think that yardstick is simple, fair, and overdue. Wish it was that easy. And I wish we were helping ourselves more.


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I'll judge the current group coaching this team by the exact same standard everyone said they were judging Hue by, wins. Put up or shut up time.


I get what you are saying, but it is basically the same coaches that were coaching when Hue was here. So I don't get it.


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Normally I'd agree with HotByYoungTurk above that it's all about wins, but we are in a special circumstance (what else is new?).

Therefore I'd say Baker getting better each week is the key. By week 16 I'd like to see him properly calling audibles, coverage, beating the blitz (yes even when we miss a block, Brees/Rivers/Brady level QBs still eat that up with at worst a quick throwaway to avoid the hit).



But did they do that in their rookie year? You can't compare a rookie to 3 of the best QB's to play over the last 20 years.

Well, you can, it just isn't realistic.
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Normally I'd agree with HotByYoungTurk above that it's all about wins, but we are in a special circumstance (what else is new?).

Therefore I'd say Baker getting better each week is the key. By week 16 I'd like to see him properly calling audibles, coverage, beating the blitz (yes even when we miss a block, Brees/Rivers/Brady level QBs still eat that up with at worst a quick throwaway to avoid the hit).



But did they do that in their rookie year? You can't compare a rookie to 3 of the best QB's to play over the last 20 years.

Well, you can, it just isn't realistic.


Sorry, I didn't mean to say he should ALWAYS do it like them, I just mean we should see him start to make those plays a sometimes. Those guys around game 14 started to do it sometimes.

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I see progress!


I see it!

I see it!

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that half was progress for the O


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'll judge the current group coaching this team by the exact same standard everyone said they were judging Hue by, wins. Put up or shut up time.


Challenge accepted! And it didn't take 15 games for the first one.



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I'll judge the current group coaching this team by the exact same standard everyone said they were judging Hue by, wins. Put up or shut up time.


What say ye now?

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I see progress!


I see it!

I see it!



Nice to see mental progress. Discipline and restraint and smart play for a change.

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Since the drama...

Offense looks much improved.

Defense looked real good today.

Penalties are down....

Hmmmmm, does that qualify as progress?

To me it does...actually looking forward to the last six games.

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Since the drama...

Offense looks much improved.

Defense looked real good today.

Penalties are down....

Hmmmmm, does that qualify as progress?

To me it does...actually looking forward to the last six games.


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big progres today


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S??? Yes I would so thumbsup


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I saw it too. It is not a mirage with a lake full of kool-aid. Progress felt very good today.


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We showed progress today. Feels good.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
We showed progress today. Feels good.


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I can only imagine what Dorsey will do with another draft and FA period.
Solid QB play and looking like our long sought after franchise guy.
Chubb is the bell cow and lately has silenced those that say that is all he is. 96 yarder tells it all.
Ward is our shutdown for years to come.
Caldwell is slowly improving and flashes.

That's just the rookies.

We gonna enjoy this team for many a year !!!


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So the things I wanted to see progress in...

Fewer penalties.. check
Move the ball early and often.. check
TDs instead of FGs.. check
Defensive stops.. check
Making plays to finish games.. check
Win.. check

In absolute terms, today was one game.... but if you are looking for progress, today was a very nice step in the right direction.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
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I'll judge the current group coaching this team by the exact same standard everyone said they were judging Hue by, wins. Put up or shut up time.


What say ye now?


I say they're 1-1 and it looks like an improvement. No gotchya moment for you arch. You've been denied! lmao


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many thanks! Perfect nightcap for yesterday's win! Girl is a scream machine.

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I like that we caused Alex Mack, lose to the Browns.


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Hadn't thought of that, but one sweet thought, Tulsa.

I be smiling!


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I thought about Mack in the 4th Quarter smile


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Ahh, I've got nothing against Mack. He was a good player for us.

I think he was tired of the losing and said 'I'm outta here'.

Can't blame him. Glad we beat his team, though!


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Agreed. Hell, he came out and played for us the same week he had hernia surgery...while Peyton Hillis sat out with a sore throat.


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96 yarder tells it all.

Actually a record breaking 93 yarder...SHHH...he's on a roll rofl


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Originally Posted By: eotab
96 yarder tells it all.

Actually a record breaking 93 yarder...SHHH...he's on a roll rofl


He's seeing the future ..... a 96 yard run this coming Sunday. wink tongue


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Originally Posted By: eotab
96 yarder tells it all.

Actually a record breaking 93 yarder...SHHH...he's on a roll rofl


or, 92 yards. Whichever.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
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96 yarder tells it all.

Actually a record breaking 93 yarder...SHHH...he's on a roll rofl


or, 92 yards. Whichever.


I have to admit, for a brief moment, when we took over inside our own 1 yard line, then had consecutive false starts... I was wondering what a 99 yard+ 2 feet+ 10 inch slant pass to Calloway would look like. nanner


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Great speech. No real hubris. Loved the energy. I hope Gregg passes the audition, I’m rooting for him. We need to see same, again. And again. Repeat.

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