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Your eyes have proven over the years to be way more accurate than stats ... especially a cherry picked stat that came out of a bin with 25 other relevant “stats” in it ... I really wish they did an SEC/Big 10 challenge like they do in hoops ... most years it’d be an ass whoopin of epic proportions .... kinda like the one you’d put on my boys most years if we played ya’all ... *LOL* ..
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After all that the Maryland football team has been through this year, I was happy to see them show up and play well...
All I kept thinking during the game as MD gouged OSU on the ground and Haskins almost single handedly kept OSU in the game was... Haskins committed to MD first, before they fired their coach. (I don't blame Haskins mind you)
MD is easily a 8-9 win team with a QB like Haskins.. with that running game AND a QB who threatens you down the field? Good grief...
I was glad they went for 2, dude was wide open too.. just missed him.
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Ohio State is ranked 7th in the NCAA power rankings (FPI) which is the overall strength of your schedule and team as a whole. Now I have a bone to pick, 3 teams ranked ahead of OSU are all far behind us in the FPI: Washington State (15) LSU (19) UCF (Unranked) ??? Hummmmmmmmmm What's happening is that there is too much focus on the P5 as well as the biggest media giant favoring their business partner. Why is the Ohio State backup led LSU team higher than OSU? It makes no sense. The only one that is credible is UCF. They got screwed last year like no other. They would've been screwed in an 8 team playoff too. If it wasn't for the backlash last year, they wouldn't be ranked ahead of us. Nope. If you want to celebrate people for winning the Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC East (sorry Peen. I know you guys are the better division this year, so don't scold too badly), then you must reward going undefeated. If not, like I said earlier, you're only rewarding losing and being a loser. Winning 12 to 13 games a year, going undefeated going into your bowl game, used to occur. Trying to get that standard is what set dynasties apart from championship teams. Ohio State needs to take that step at becoming a dynasty. The best way to do that is to elevate the importance on never losing as a team. That's just my opinion of course.
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I think the difference between us is I go by watching them play. They have lacked any real luster against unranked teams. Squeaked by or just pulled away late in games against weak competition. It's not been impressive.
Maryland was 5-5 going into this weeks game. You can trust some stats and I'll trust my eyes. Michigan played a 5-5 Indiana team at home this past week, was losing at half and was only up 8 most of the 4th until a very late FG. Also, Michigan is supposed to be way better than OSU too. I’m not saying that to prove anyone right or wrong, but both teams struggled against 5-5 average Big10 Joe’s. I think this will come down to whoever has the ball last. It might be a 56-59 game. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised about an game OT either. I have no horse in the race, I root for Toledo. I just like the rivalry because I grew up on it.
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I've always liked the rivalry. I'm 60 and have watched this match up ever since I can remember. I just know that our D is more leaky than an old rusty bucket and over the course of the season Michigan has played much better ball.
As always I'll be sitting in front of my TV in OSU gear rooting on my team and hoping for the best.
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Still feel like Michigan wins the game. Although with the point spread favoring UM, and most people picking UM could be a rallying point for OSU.
I just don't like OSU's defense. They haven't been good since Nick Bosa went down. They gave up chunk plays, they don't really force that may turnovers (only 7 INT on the year which is insane for Ohio State).
They can't run the ball that well, they're awful in short-distance situations.
I do think Dwayne Haskins is head and shoulders better than Patterson. What Haskins is doing, carrying a bad defense and a mediocre-at-best run game is pretty amazing. I still think he should be a Heisman finalist. I hope he sticks around another year, but if he's going to get a first round grade, nobody would blame him for going.
I just think Michigan has a bit more to play for. Harbaugh needs this win more than Meyer has needed any win at Ohio State. For Urban Meyer it feels like this could be end of his run (rumors floating around about him stepping down at the end of the season)
Good thing for OSU is that this game tends to have an early energy for everyone, so if they can ride that into some early luck, maybe they get in rhythm, but I just don't know how anyone can realistically feel that great about this after watching the Maryland game.
I'm excited though, this type of matchup is really what the rivalry should be all about, and hasn't been for some time now.
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Ohio State is going to win. Michigan doesn't play well on the road. They haven't won in Columbus since 2000. Their two best players on defense got hurt in the Indy game and may not play.
Harbaugh doesn't coach well in big games. I think Meyer is the better coach and OSU has the better QB. Having said that, if this game were in Ann Arbor Michigan wins, but since it's in Columbus, OSU will win and will be in the Big Ten championship game and will beat Northwestern.
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Ohio State will beat Michigan and get to the BT championship game. Michigan hasn't won in Columbus since 2000 and that streak will continue. Looks like Meyer will retire at the end of the season and OSU will be more motivated then ever to beat Michigan and win another championship for Meyer.
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I'm amazed at the amount of trash fans and players of Michigan football are talking. Like holy god have you not watched this "rivalry" the last 20 years?
I do think UM wins, but if Ohio State pulled it off, I wouldn't be that surprised. While Ohio State has had their struggles, Michigan hasn't really beaten anyone this year. I'm not saying OSU has because it's worse, but they're also not getting too many accolades at the moment, meanwhile Michigan beat an underwhelming Penn State team and Northwestern. Ok.
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JMO, but, at this point, why wouldn't the michigan fans talk? Look at what OSU fans have done the past several years.
It is what it is. Still have to play the game. I hope OSU is competitive. # 2 offense in the nation against the #1 defense.
We're having somewhere between 30 and 50 people over Saturday. It will be fun, regardless of the outcome.
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I'm amazed at the amount of trash fans and players of Michigan football are talking. Like holy god have you not watched this "rivalry" the last 20 years?
I do think UM wins, but if Ohio State pulled it off, I wouldn't be that surprised. While Ohio State has had their struggles, Michigan hasn't really beaten anyone this year. I'm not saying OSU has because it's worse, but they're also not getting too many accolades at the moment, meanwhile Michigan beat an underwhelming Penn State team and Northwestern. Ok. That's all they can do is talk. OSU has dominated them for the last 10 years or so.
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Here's why OSU will win today.... Better head coach. Better QB. Better OL. Home field advantage. Michigan doesn't play well on the road. UM usually starts slow and gets behind early in road games. UM has trouble defending middle of the field. UM defense gives up some big plays on the road.
That's why OSU will win toady.
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I can’t root for a POC like Meyer ... but for ND to have ANY SHOT at the title .... we NEED u guys to win ... No one has more than a remote shot at beating Bama ... UM is in the same category as us ... NO WAY can they beat Bama ... If someone like Oklahoma can OUTSCORE Bama somehow we can beat THEM ... GO BU ... i can’t do it .... *L* .. Good Luck today guys ... 
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I can’t root for a POC like Meyer ... lmao, but it's ok to root for Brian Kelly?
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I can’t root for a POC like Meyer ... lmao, but it's ok to root for Brian Kelly? - I love the browns and root for them every week DESPITE the THIEF ...i was a fan of the browns long before our POC canoe along ... - not a fan of Kelly’s .. he was an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE with his sideline behavior .. pretty sure he was told 3 years ago ENOUGH cause his sideline antics have stopped ... HE HELPED RUIN KIZER ... HELPED RUIN HIM ... he also has NEVER TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING NEGATIVE during games or surronding the program ... NOT THE EXAMPLE I WANT SET FOR MY 18 - 22 year olds ... - i love ND and root for them DESPITE the douche ... U GUYS LOVE OSU .... appearantly you either have NO CLUE what the Liar did in Fla. as far as recruiting goes or u have a way different moral compass than i do ... u can still LOVE OSU and aknowledge there coach is a POC ... I can’t stand Kelly but hes not a POC like Meyer ... NOT EVEN CLOSE ... So far so god for ya’all and YOUR SCUMBAG of a coach .. i’m hoping for the same kind of day from the dawgs and OUR SCUMBAG of an OWNER ... 
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POS, not POC-- if you're going to insult the guy at least get it right! (smelling smack is the greatest.)
But anyway, I think your criticisms of Meyer are over the top and ridiculous.
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Nice pass breakup there. Buckeyes still up, 7-6
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Uh yeah, Brian Kelly basically killed a kid, and also probably helped cover up the rape of a young girl who went on to commit suicide. Meyer was wrong for not putting Zach smith on leave but Brian Kelly and Notre Dame football are an absolute disgrace that consistently get a pass for that garbage.
I also remember him shortening Michael Floyd’s suspension for dui to one quarter lmao. What a joke.
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Enjoy the game ... not the time for this convo ... we’ll chat tommorow ... i’m not so sure u have ANY CLUE what he did in Fla ... Another TD .... wooooohooooo ... 
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Haskins is a legitimate QB. It’s nice to see a real nfl prospect at the position for a change.
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Kelly basically killed a kid ... your PATHETIC ...
Haus - look forward to chatting with u tommorow ... i have no DESIRE to waste my time with the likes of this dude ...
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Harbaugh is done I would imagine
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I think he’s a sophomore.
So another season playing like this, and he’s for sure a 1st round QB.
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Wasn’t Michigan supposed to roll OSU like a joint today? Who’s smoking who?
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Looking forward to hearing from you.
For the record, from Notre Dame's perspective, I don't think it really matters who wins between Michigan and Ohio State. Either could be possible one loss Big Ten champions.. six of one, half a dozen of another.
You could make the argument that Michigan has generally looked like a better team this year. That might factor in if compared to say, Oklahoma, but Notre Dame has the head to head win against Michigan, to go along with an undefeated record. I think Notre Dame just has to take care of business vs USC.
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Ty ..
I’ve seen u guys 3 or 4 times this year ...
He’s got a shot ... hes got the skills ...
Hes been inconsistent against good teams ... for a first year starter its to be expected ..
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They’ll have the lead going into the half, just not as much of a lead as they should.
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21-19 after Michigan touchdown, Ohio State fumble on kickoff, and another Michigan touchdown, for those not following along. At least they missed the two point conversion to tie.
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I think he’s a sophomore.
So another season playing like this, and he’s for sure a 1st round QB. Redshirt sophomore. He gone.
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