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j/c...

*LOL* ...

Ya .. i was crying ... i made a sound rational post saying i could care less ... and cause your .. well u ... i was crying and am a snowflake .. typical from someone backed into a corner and has no rational response ....

0 + 0 = 0 is obviously way to hard for u ...

Good Night Eve ... enjoy the rest of it ...

I can add to 26.

Too bad you can't add past zero.

Good thing we had leaders running our team and not giant wussified babies.

Ya ... i bet Riley gave him the idea to throw the ball into the backs of the opponents during pre - games .... and the crotch grab ... think his ma recommended that to him ...

...

U guys are a trip ... REALITY is a wonderful thing ...

I’m done with this ... bye bye ...

Back to my my myopic little vacuum world ....

Yes ... Montana, Brady, Brees ... they grabbed there crotches during games all the time ... i think Brady did it twice today ... ...

Be sure to take some tissues with you back to your safe space.

BOOM.

Diam, you're awesome but Eve brought the heat with that post.
*L*

Your boy, Brady, definitely was a crotch grabber ......

Out of curiosity how old are you?

Certainly we dont care about this, right?

If he can backup his play, then he can do whatever drives him. And 99% of the time, he backs it up on the field.

Hes having one of the greatest rookie QB seasons in NFL history. More power to him.

You are missing the point, lol.

But your response proved my original point, so thanks.

I'm not sure if my answer should be:

1) Old enough to be your mother
or
2) Young enough to be cooler than you.

No, this has everything to do with Hue questioning Baker's work ethic on HARD KNOCKS, and then congratulating him for "earning" 2nd team QB. Hue is an epic know-it-all.

I find that picture to be really disturbing, especially the dude in the middle.

LOL, that got me good.

You and I have been reading each others' posts for more than a decade.

I can't remember a time when I got more pumped reading another fan's post. It geeks me for next week and next year, at the same time.

So glad to be sharing this wave with you.
Lord knows we've all suffered long enough together.

Denzel, you’re my boy, you can’t play 220 aggression, I need 180 form.

I don't think the Browns can summarily do that without interviewing a NFL approved minority.

I understand the rule, but there are exceptions to rules, and this might be one of those times.

If you promote an interim head coach, you don't have to interview an outside coach .... at least that what I understand.

#1 might apply, but #2 for sure.

I agree. Puts the Williams quote about stupid tackling during camp in to context.

Well holy cow!!! We just swept the bengals. A win next Sunday gives us our first winning record in over a decade and a sweep over the slimey ravens, there are even better things on our horizon and you are fretting over a crotch grab in college. I am looking forward to a throat grab of the Steelers next year as we sweep them.

Everybody should be enjoying this not fussing about the past. Baker is going to lead this team to the super bowl. Let’s enjoy the ride.

Baker continues to impress me as a rookie. He’s finding success inside and outside of structure. His anticipation, ball placement, and decision making have improved throughout the season to the point where they’re quickly becoming the foundational part of his professional skill set. But blending the traditional elements of quarterbacking with the moments of spontaneous genius is a salivating prospect. There are still a lot of little things to clean up or improve, but given his desire for greatness, I’ve got full confidence he will continue to develop over the offseason.

As far as the late-game incident with Hue goes, count me among those that believe there is more to their story than currently publicized. Personally, I suspect I wouldn’t have done it, but I recognize that I do not match his fiery personality, either. If those emotive, savage displays fuel his performance, then so be it. I would never ask him to apologize or change. Because his emergence as a firecracker quarterback reignited a dormant franchise. It’s been LeBron-esque.

To that last point, loved seeing the team rally around Baker after the out-of-bounds shot.

Tackling technique is situational and Ward needs to learn that. There are indeed times when the principal point of contact should be the chest or shoulders; however, on his individual basis, that is ill-advised. Considering most tackles are bang-bang plays and Ward has such a slender frame, his first instinct should almost always be to cut the ball carrier down, and he needs to spend the offseason reprogramming that aspect of his game. He was far too upright on each of the tackles that led to his three injuries. Depending on some variables, like the angle of the tackle and the principal point of contact, he either needs to drive through the legs or wrap and roll like an alligator.

Excited about the sub-package trio of Garrett, Ogunjobi, and Avery for next season. If they can add another pass rusher to the unit – edge or interior – then I’ll feel good about our chances to compete with anyone.

If Bruce Arians is hired, Amos Jones is likely the first-choice special teams coordinator. I would prefer that Amos Jones does not remain special teams coordinator. If that’s the direction that Dorsey and the Haslams want to go, I hope they discuss re-assigning Jones. Maybe a special projects role.

What exactly did baker “say” about his former coaches??

...and his college teammates loved him. "His opponents hated him"? Good! How many times in the past have we seen our unhated qb's cheap shotted by opponents and our team just sit there and watch? Would you rather have that? I'd much rather have that infectious bad blood with our division rivals. His teammates are buying into it big time and are willing to go to war with and for him.

I used to get so pizzed off when our players were out on the field with the steelers laughing and joking around right after games in which they beat our ass while concussing Colt and Cribbs. This isn't golf. I watch football for entertainment. I don't want to see a good 'ol boys club and dream that I'm a part of it.

In the NFL I think its a given that the other team is trying to hurt your QB, whether he is the biggest meanie ever or the nicest guy in the world. Colt McCoy would stop in traffic to save a stranded puppy in the rain, and James Harrison still head-butted him to Dream Street. Josh McCown never had a bad word to say about anyone, leads the postgame prayer circle, and he got helicoptered into the turf by the Jets. Its pretty common knowledge in the NFL that the defense is trying to knock your #1 QB out of the game. So I don't think the chip on Mayfield's shoulder is going to precipitate any unusual aggression on him; the aggression is already built-in.

Bake’s so gangsta with his look back stare.

This is an epic rivalry in the making. Too bad this is probably the last year for Marvin Lewis and I don’t think Mike Brown is grooming Hue to be HC in Cincinnati. So it probably won’t amount to much. We’ll see.

BM now has 24 Passing TD's and is #3 in the all time Rookie Passing TD Record Book. Had Njoku not been a bit dinged up it would be 25.
Only Manning and Wilson have more at 26.
BOTH started 16 Games.
Baker 12/13..... still one to go!
We are 7-7-1.... have a Team we can all be proud of... that Team has a QB they will follow into the Fires of Hell! (well OK a bit much)... and we are ALL having fun!
If having a fiery personality and a touch too much ego (which he apparently can back up)is what it takes.
I'm fine w/ that.

so honest question, diam. We could still have a starting qb who is the nicest guy in the world, great family man, never grabbed his crotch in his life. Yes tyrod could still be our starting qb. Do you think we would be 7-7? Do you think the stadium would have been packed yesterday?? Do you think fans would still have been standing around chanting his name during his post game interview?? Heck would there even have been a postgame interview?? if tyrod was still our starting qb??

I must say I am a little confused, diam. I thought you had booked baker a luxury suite on the isle. Am I wrong about that??

Mayfield with some crazy tight throws, Landry, Johnson Jr., and Higgins with some insane sideline catches, and a TD that was insane (by Higgins). Also the continued success of Chubb and Johnson Jr. Yikes,.

The D coming up big again....

basically, we owned the Bengals.

Hue Jackson wasn't any help at all,,

Winning 5 of the last 6 is outstanding.. If they can keep this level of intensity up and carry it into next year, we could a force to deal with.

This was fun to watch...

Baker is smart. I feel he will learn as he matures.
I don't like The words Baker said in the Bungle game 1. Now the stare..... absolutely no issue with that. Had he not said what he did after game 1 prolly wouldn't be a issue.
If you ever think Bake is gonna be different ya might as well hope we trade him something because he isn't gonna change those stares and such. He will learn what to say and not but other than that....he is what he is.
We either gotta get use to that or you Ina a world or hate and animosity for years to come.
This dude wins and those in the locker room absolutely gravitate to him. Reason is he backs it up with performances as a leader and he wins !

Whatever it is that happened between Hue and Baker, it’s personal. I don’t remember him saying a thing about Haley and he’s not gone out of his way to rub it in the face of another teams coaching staff. This dude does not like Hue and he does not like him in a big way.

I think you are correct.. Look at what happened when the shackles were taken off Mayfield. He produced.. I think he blames Hue for holding him back.. Makes some sense really.

The way I look at it, if I had to play for the worst coach of all time, and he spent two and a half years blaming the players, front office, and assistant coaches-- everybody but himself-- for his awful performance, and then bolted to a division rival (to work for free, due to the offset) a couple weeks after one of the more deserved firings of our day, I probably wouldn't like the guy either.

This is in addition to whatever inner discord there was in the organization. I think there were some hints along the way. For example, from the Sports Illustrated article, "The disconnect created by Jackson's inferior knowledge of Haley’s offense, and the players’ unfamiliarity with Jackson’s scheme, frustrated players and coaches alike, according to five sources within the organization."

Possible translation: Clueless had no idea what he was doing. Leading up to the first Bengals game, Baker Mayfield was asked whether Hue knowing the offense could be an advantage for the Bengals, to which Baker replied "No... (asked why)... just no."

More will surely come out in time.

j/c:

Much of this is revealing.

Baker has given the Browns an attitude and a true leader that has raised the level of his teammates. We just swept the Bengals and are on a 3 game win streak. We have found our franchise QB and the leader of our team.
Who gives a crap about the fact he doesn't like Hue Jackson? Or his opponents? I have been a Browns fan since Frank Ryan was our QB. I have seen them all and I have never seen anyone like Baker. If you can't enjoy what Baker has done for the Browns you may need to find another team because this is just the beginning.

Agreed

I love the attitude and swagger that Baker has brought. Of course, it isn't just him. There are a lot of really good players on this team. Williams and Kitchens have contributed. But man, Baker is one of those guys who just raises the level of play of everybody around him.

Part of it is his play-- moving around in the pocket, making good decisions and accurate passes, things that will always make the offense look better. It's also his attitude and leadership. Guys just want to play hard for the guy.

Heck he even asked the fans to show up, they did, and the Browns delivered. That's 5-2-1 at home on the year. That'll go a long way toward selling those season tickets.

Has anyone brought up the possibility that we might need to replace Amos Jones as ST Coordinator? The weekly breakdowns and penalties are an ongoing aggravation and can be backbreakers in close games.

... that was funny ... him and of course VICE GRIPS get VIP treatment on the Isle ...

I said i could care less bro .... its right there in my initial post ... i’ve been nothing but supportive of Bake ... i guess maybe what i said about the thief is where this is coming from ... i just meant i didnt want to be a hypocrite with that ...

BUT RIGHT THERE IN THE POST ... i said ... I COULD CARE LESS ...

Would i prefer someone not as emotional and with a “temper” in that sometimes he lets his emotions get the best of him ... ABSOLUTELY .... do i really care if he grab his crotch at the opposing sideline ... i’m not his mother, so not really ...

I believe I also said in a following post he’s also a GREAT KID in that he has a GOOD HEART by all he’s doing for the community ...

Here’s the ironic part .. and BTW ... thanks for actually taking the time to ASK A QUESTION as opposed to just beating me over my head with a club like Eve did last night ...

I’m still not sure how the post i made led to the “undressing” she gave me last night ... i said i could care less and she comes back with i’m a snowflake and should leave if i dont support Bake ... math there’s is completely f’d up ...

Ironic part ... BEFORE THE DRAFT some were concerned over Bake’s “incidents” in college ... running form the cops .. grabbing his crotch ... hit dude in the back of the head ... and those concerns were OVERBLOWN in IMO ..

I SAID MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE THE DRAFT that Bake’s acts stemmed form INMARURITY on his part ....

Now he does IMO two more INMATURE THINGS while with us .... i’m not reffering to how he treated Hue on the field that day ... i actually gave him credit for that ... after the “press” blasted them he took that opportunity to throw Hue under the bus ... that IMO was INMATURE ... if u dont agree with me fine ... but it doesnt make me some MORON that can’t add 1 + 1 = 2 .... what he did yesterday was INMATURE IMO also ...

I’ve been CONSISTENT with that since BEFORE WE DRAFTED HIM ... and i said i COULD CARE LESS ....

He also does a ton of work for charity and spreads awareness for those in need ... that’s IMPORTANT to me ...

I am sure his mom is brimmining with pride about the young man she raised with how good a heart he has .... i’m Also sure when he grabbed his crotch she wanted to go out on the filed and pull him off out of emberassment ... i feel like his ma .... *L* ...

I seriously dont understand Eve’s reply to me or why u said i was “fretting” ... i said i COULD CARE LESS in my initial post ...

Thanks for asking dawg ... now go take the fretting part back ... *LOL* ....

Have a good one dawg ...

I saw a stadium that was alive and rocking, chanting Baker,Baker, Baker.... and it was because of the attitude change the team has had. There is no question Baker is the leader. He says what he feels which is refreshing. No cookie cutter answers from Baker. And he backs it up on the field.
I saw a group of receivers playing great. An oline that has improved. A running game we can depend on. TEs make plays. A QB that is becoming one of the best in the NFL.
I really like the way Peppers and Avery are playing. Larry O. is becoming one of the best DTs in the league.
I am worried that Ward got another concussion. I am affraid he might not have a very long career. We need to draft another corner.
It was a fun game to watch. We guaranteed a winning record in our division. I love the way Chubb runs. He reminds me of Mike Pruitt. There is a lot to be excited about with the Browns.
It's been a long time.

Get Over It, Snowflake. Lmao

"Snowflake ". That's funny stuff.

Does it ever Snow on our Isle? Lol