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Maybe I'm just a little biased. I wanted Arians. Further, I don't understand why we didn't even interview him. Too old. Not a long term fit. Had just retired for health reasons. The opposite of what Dorsey was looking for.
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Not jumping for joy or cursing either. Could be great, could be disastrous.
I feel alright about it because of Dorsey and the front office.
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I think Ariens would have been good but the age and medical history HAD to be taken into account. Dorsey wanted someone for the next 10-15 years.. Not another stop gap... I wanted Arians for a couple years at most and I wanted to keep Freddie as asst. HC in traing under Arians I never thought it would be good to hire him for 5 years or more ...
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What did I miss about Stanton? I thought he was signed through 2019.
I would presume Taylor is gone and we will have Stanton as our back-up QB next season.
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He better win or the anger will be palpable.
As opposed to how much less palpable it would have been under _____________ ... Please fill in the blank bro .... *L* .... I'm a big believer in chemistry in cases such as this. I liked what GW and his coordinators were doing. I hope things work out, but I can see Freddie starting but 1-5 next season and fans will start resenting the decision this team made this week. We turned things around mainly because of our Offense. Our defense didn't get better when Gregg took over, our offense got better when Kitchens took over. I give Gregg a lot of respect for what he did, but the reason for the turn around was plain and simple, Freddie Kitches - which is why he was named HC and not Gregg, or anyone else. Baker loves Freddie, Freddie loves Baker. This is a great day for Browns Football! We finally did the right thing, the Haslams let John pick his guy, and he did. Baker got his guy as well. chemistry, continuity, (Baker is going to have the SAME OFFENSE going into year 2 - do you know how important that is?), respect. All things we have lacked in years past, are here now.
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What's up with the official Browns website? No news posted. I find the site mostly useless...
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I always enjoyed the Antics between Freddie and Baker...This should be a fun thing to watch as the team rolls into the Top of the AFCN and Playoffs
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If Baker is happy, then I'm happy. I think that is what matters most here.
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What did I miss about Stanton? I thought he was signed through 2019 You are correct. Stanton is signed through 2019.
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What's up with the official Browns website? No news posted. I find the site mostly useless... That is why you have DawgTalkers MR BB32 
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The most important person in the NFL today is the Franchise QB, second is a HC that can mesh with the Franchise QB ...
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What's up with the official Browns website? No news posted. I find the site mostly useless... That is why you have DawgTalkers MR BB32 And loving it, Double D; that's why I'm here.
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Never even entered my mind ... as usual ... u make all the sense in the world ... plus Drew knows Bake better than anyone we could bring in .. Thinking OC is a reach but qb coach maybe? ... Will be interesting and FUN to see how this unfolds .... OOB i get it dawg ... 100% get it .... lamp so if we went 1 - 5 to start next year we’d still be in the honeymoon period if we hired GW ....  ... Dude .. if Freddie starts out 1 - 5 next year i’m Gonna be SHOCKED and PEED ...
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Never even entered my mind ... as usual ... u make all the sense in the world ... plus Drew knows Bake better than anyone we could bring in ..
Thinking OC is a reach but qb coach maybe? ... Drew Stanton is signed as a player through 2019. Look for Ryan Lindley to get a promotion.
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What's up with the official Browns website? No news posted. I find the site mostly useless... The team hasn’t officially announced it.
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Super happy with this!
Hopefully a lot of the other coaches are retained as well.
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It is an interesting hire and I like it... Browns seemed insistent on keeping Kitchens around which turned off some candidates, so they just in turn hired Kitchens. We'll see how this turns out... I'm going to guess it ends very well. I really really hope that the deciding factor wasn't that we hired him as HC because maybe, possibly, at some point down the line, hypothetically... he'd get hired away. We blocked him from interviewing because he was getting calls for OC positions. Not HC positions. Right, I thought that as well, but consider this: If teams had called about a HC position, it probably would have forced us in to keeping him. Maybe other teams didn't want to tip their hat until we named someone else head coach. Then all of a sudden the phones ring off the hook requesting interviews.
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That says two good things about this organization. 1. Browns were not willing to part with Kitchens 2. Freddie was open to staying with the club even if a different HC was hired.
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Here is the defensive coaching staff that was with Freddie at Arizona.
Defensive coaches
Defensive Coordinator – James Bettcher
Defensive Line – Brentson Buckner
Outside Linebackers – Bob Sanders
Inside Linebackers – Larry Foote
Defensive Backs – Nick Rapone
Cornerbacks – Kevin Ross
Defensive Assistant/Defensive Backs – Mike Chiurco
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or this is complete BS.
Do you really think JD said we wanted McCarthy but "settled" for Freddie?
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Congrats to the man! What will the rest of the shakeout be I wonder.
Go win us some championships!
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BS we didn't even interview the guy lol. Your not going to call and say "hey we want to interview you, but only if say before hand you want to keep kitchens."
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or this is complete BS.
Do you really think JD said we wanted McCarthy but "settled" for Freddie? I don't think it says that at all. It says that we firmly stood by the fact that we were keeping Kitchens and wanted to weed out the weaklings who were opposed to that before they were interviewed... and before we interviewed Kitchens.
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This must not be news apparently. How many negative reports on this can BSPN and others gin up? Let's not lose track of the records and performance BM put up.
Let's play tomorrow. Is this where other coaching news should be posted going forward. Apparently Arians fibbed then settled.
Who's kept? Who's hired? Who's leaving?
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BS we didn't even interview the guy lol. Your not going to call and say "hey we want to interview you, but only if say before hand you want to keep kitchens." The front office knows McCarthy really well. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team met with him at some point midseason.
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After what went down in Green Bay, maybe that was a quote from McCarthy lol.
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BS we didn't even interview the guy lol. Your not going to call and say "hey we want to interview you, but only if say before hand you want to keep kitchens." The front office knows McCarthy really well. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team met with him at some point midseason. Not to argue that lines of communication weren't open, but we would not have been insisting on Kitchens staying at mid-season.
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BS we didn't even interview the guy lol. Your not going to call and say "hey we want to interview you, but only if say before hand you want to keep kitchens." The front office knows McCarthy really well. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team met with him at some point midseason. I don't think mid Season they are that high yet on Freddie though. Maybe because they are familiar with MM, that's EXACTLY why its BS. lol
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I'm a happy camper right now! Freddie was my top choice, and is a guy I think can coach this team for the next decade plus. 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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j/c.... From Pat McManamon's article.... So who had the most pull in the decision.....Haslem, Dorsey, or Baker? 
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I have been wondering for weeks what Jason Smith thinks of our coaching search.. glad I finally know. Who is Jason Smith?
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I have been wondering for weeks what Jason Smith thinks of our coaching search.. glad I finally know. Who is Jason Smith?
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He is still a player so probably unlikely.
It maybe his future. But it will be interesting to see if Freddie hires a OC?
DC. Probably looking for a 4-3 guy.
Is it official that Blake is gone?
I can understand GW leaving. It would have been awkward with him and Freddie.
But Blake needs to separate from his father. And this is a good opportunity for him.
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