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Spags would be a good fit too and his personality is a lot like GW's as well.

Joseph is a 3-4 guy but a Wade Phillips disciple, so he might be able to, but I wouldn't call that a certainty.


I've never seen a person adapt a defense to its personnel better than what Wade Phillips has done with the Rams.


If you can figure out how to get Wade Phillips or Bill B to be our DC, we'll go on a Superbowl run. I think part of GW's magic was that we aren't built like most defenses. Schwartz would even be a close 3rd, but I think the odds of getting him are about the same.

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That kind of choked me up a little bit. Rock on, GW.

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I *think* Jim Schwartz is in his last year with the Eagles as DC. I would guess Philly wants to keep him, but there were some reports of problems between him and Pederson last year. Winning the SB may have healed that, though.


He is indeed in the last year of his contract:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagl...h-20180601.html

Schwartz would be far and away the best choice, to me, if he was available.


Schwartz would actually be a really great fit. Most other names I hear on here would not.


Maybe we can trade a 3rd for him lol.


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I was expecting him to go on First Take. . .


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Here are some college DC's that could off the top of my head fit.

Brent Venables - Clemson
Don Brown - Michigan
Kirby Smart - Georgia
Jim Leonard - Wisconsin
Andy Avalos - Boise State ***Look him up he'll be an NFL coach soon.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
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That kind of choked me up a little bit. Rock on, GW.


Man, I am sorry to see him go. I admit that I am somewhat dismayed that he wasn't given the HC position...


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I wonder when his media tour starts?


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Both of these guys are among the top position coaches in th league.

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I am almost positive that I will be alone on this [at least admitting to it,] but it never ceases to amaze me how so many fans and media types thinks firing coaches is such a great thing.

Faces come and go. Schemes change. The excitement grows in the fan base. Rosters change to fit the new guys. The team struggles. The same fans who wanted the last guy[s] gone and were thrilled by the news guys, switch course again and start calling for more changes to the coaching staff.

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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
Here are some college DC's that could off the top of my head fit.

Brent Venables - Clemson
Don Brown - Michigan
Kirby Smart - Georgia
Jim Leonard - Wisconsin
Andy Avalos - Boise State ***Look him up he'll be an NFL coach soon.


How did you come up with this list? Kirby Smart is not leaving UGA anytime soon.


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He's also the HC for GA.

Leonard would be interesting.

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People have been speaking highly of Jim Leonhard since he was a player. He’s a Wisconsin alum though. . .

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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
Here are some college DC's that could off the top of my head fit.

Brent Venables - Clemson
Don Brown - Michigan
Kirby Smart - Georgia
Jim Leonard - Wisconsin
Andy Avalos - Boise State ***Look him up he'll be an NFL coach soon.


How did you come up with this list? Kirby Smart is not leaving UGA anytime soon.


I doubt Venables would either, he just signed a big contract, but you never know with the chance to go to the NFL.

The list are teams with that I think have aggressive style defenses like GW's and young and up and coming DC's. I don't watch a huge amount of college football so there are plenty of guys I probably missed. These are just guys I can think of.

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People have been speaking highly of Jim Leonhard since he was a player. He’s a Wisconsin alum though. . .


Yep most of those guys would be tough draws.

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People have been speaking highly of Jim Leonhard since he was a player. He’s a Wisconsin alum though. . .


Yep most of those guys would be tough draws.


Especially the ones that are HC’s and not DC’s .... rofl ...




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I am almost positive that I will be alone on this [at least admitting to it,] but it never ceases to amaze me how so many fans and media types thinks firing coaches is such a great thing.

Faces come and go. Schemes change. The excitement grows in the fan base. Rosters change to fit the new guys. The team struggles. The same fans who wanted the last guy[s] gone and were thrilled by the news guys, switch course again and start calling for more changes to the coaching staff.


I don't get what you're implying. Don't you think Kitchens should be able to bring in his own guys? Why feel obligated to keep any of Hue's old staff? This is a new team. Kitchens and the team ended the season 5-3 in spite of having Hue's old staff there, not because of them. To me getting rid of the dinosaurs (Saunders, Wylie) and their sons for that matter is a must. We need a clean slate.

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I am almost positive that I will be alone on this [at least admitting to it,] but it never ceases to amaze me how so many fans and media types thinks firing coaches is such a great thing.

Faces come and go. Schemes change. The excitement grows in the fan base. Rosters change to fit the new guys. The team struggles. The same fans who wanted the last guy[s] gone and were thrilled by the news guys, switch course again and start calling for more changes to the coaching staff.


I don't get what you're implying. Don't you think Kitchens should be able to bring in his own guys? Why feel obligated to keep any of Hue's old staff? This is a new team. Kitchens and the team ended the season 5-3 in spite of having Hue's old staff there, not because of them. To me getting rid of the dinosaurs (Saunders, Wylie) and their sons for that matter is a must. We need a clean slate.


I think I already said that I would be alone in that opinion.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
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People have been speaking highly of Jim Leonhard since he was a player. He’s a Wisconsin alum though. . .


Yep most of those guys would be tough draws.


Especially the ones that are HC’s and not DC’s .... rofl ...



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Db and receivers coach were great and they stayed. Rest were upgradeable.

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I am almost positive that I will be alone on this [at least admitting to it,] but it never ceases to amaze me how so many fans and media types thinks firing coaches is such a great thing.

Faces come and go. Schemes change. The excitement grows in the fan base. Rosters change to fit the new guys. The team struggles. The same fans who wanted the last guy[s] gone and were thrilled by the news guys, switch course again and start calling for more changes to the coaching staff.


I don't get what you're implying. Don't you think Kitchens should be able to bring in his own guys? Why feel obligated to keep any of Hue's old staff? This is a new team. Kitchens and the team ended the season 5-3 in spite of having Hue's old staff there, not because of them. To me getting rid of the dinosaurs (Saunders, Wylie) and their sons for that matter is a must. We need a clean slate.


I think I already said that I would be alone in that opinion.


You're not the only one Vers, but I'm okay with the offensive side. I'm sure he's going to bring in guys that fit. It's the Defensive side I worry about and I'm really glad we are getting a change at Special teams.

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Hmmmm ... you’ll need to help this 12 year old with the math here ...

U made a list of college DC’s that would be good fits here ... problem is ... one of them is a HC and not a DC in college ...

Exactly how does money factor in here menZa .... rofl ...

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This is a new team. Kitchens and the team ended the season 5-3 in spite of having Hue's old staff there, not because of them. To me getting rid of the dinosaurs (Saunders, Wylie) and their sons for that matter is a must. We need a clean slate.


Hue fired coaches... and as you say a clean slate.. The guys who were on the 1-15 and 0-16 seasons needed to go.
Even the 2nd half winning felt good even though it wasn't against teams that were all that good except the Win against the Ravens.

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Hmmmm ... you’ll need to help this 12 year old with the math here ...

U made a list of college DC’s that would be good fits here ... problem is ... one of them is a HC and not a DC in college ...

Exactly how does money factor in here menZa .... rofl ...

Very Sashiesque .... tell him i said hi ... thumbsup



You might have heard of a team called Alabama. Smart used to be their DC.

caps lock broke again buddy. thumbsup

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I'm guessing you didn't like Wylie because of what went down a in 2017, but man, the OL was playing outstanding this year. I think our OL was actually one of the better lines in the league this past season. Surprised the hell out of me.

I'm very concerned about the defense. I pray we don't drastically change schemes again.

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Vers..I'm wondering if Wylie had some health issues and declined to come back

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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
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Hmmmm ... you’ll need to help this 12 year old with the math here ...

U made a list of college DC’s that would be good fits here ... problem is ... one of them is a HC and not a DC in college ...

Exactly how does money factor in here menZa .... rofl ...

Very Sashiesque .... tell him i said hi ... thumbsup



You might have heard of a team called Alabama. Smart used to be their DC.

caps lock broke again buddy. thumbsup


Smart is the head coach of one the top fiveish college football programs. He’s not leaving that job for anything other than another head coaching job.

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I'm guessing you didn't like Wylie because of what went down a in 2017, but man, the OL was playing outstanding this year. I think our OL was actually one of the better lines in the league this past season. Surprised the hell out of me.

I'm very concerned about the defense. I pray we don't drastically change schemes again.


Nah, I like Wylie and agree the line was playing awesome. I think Dorsey was looking for leakers though and knew about at least one of them.

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Hmmmm ... you’ll need to help this 12 year old with the math here ...

U made a list of college DC’s that would be good fits here ... problem is ... one of them is a HC and not a DC in college ...

Exactly how does money factor in here menZa .... rofl ...

Very Sashiesque .... tell him i said hi ... thumbsup



You might have heard of a team called Alabama. Smart used to be their DC.

caps lock broke again buddy. thumbsup


Smart is the head coach of one the top fiveish college football programs. He’s not leaving that job for anything other than another head coaching job.


We could kidnap him.

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As far as the new OC goes, it's not as important as the DC, but still interesting. They don't need some older OC with a lot of experience running his own system that might start up a power struggle with Freddie. He needs someone that is on the same wavelength as himself, and Baker.

Byron Leftwich could be a possibility. I know there are rumors Arians is trying to hire him, but I think it's for passing game coordinator instead of OC, so maybe Kitchens could get him as OC. (Assuming they got along well in Arizona.)

Or maybe a college spread/air raid OC that could come in and help incorporate some of those concepts, but still be ok with letting Freddie run the offense. I would say Jake Spavital, but it looks like Kliff Kingsbury is already trying to hire him.

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Leftwich is already hired in Tampa Bay. He’s even calling plays, which I never thought would happen with Arians as head coach.

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Both of these guys are among the top position coaches in th league.





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Callahan yes, but didn't the 49ers can Tomsula because he gave the team twitter breaks during practice?

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Leftwich is already hired in Tampa Bay. He’s even calling plays, which I never thought would happen with Arians as head coach.


I never thought he would call plays again after what he did in Arizona after he took over as OC.

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Gregg the intern head coach did well... Gregg the defensive coordinator left something to be desired... thankful for what he did for the team overall this year but think our defense really needs to improve... we did very well with turnovers but very low in league regarding yards and points...


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List of coaches/assistants/interns no longer with the orginization:
Gregg Williams
Amos Jones
Josh Cribbs
Ken Zampese
Bob Wylie
Greg Seamon
Blake Williams
Jerod Kruse
Bob Saunders
Brian Baswell
Eric Sanders
Mark Hutson

Hope I got this correct..


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Db and receivers coach were great and they stayed. Rest were upgradeable.


I did not read that, but I like both coaches.

Now Baker can build on this offense this off-season instead of just mentally trying to learn another.


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Originally Posted By: SaintDawg
List of coaches/assistants/interns no longer with the orginization:
Gregg Williams
Amos Jones
Josh Cribbs
Ken Zampese
Bob Wylie
Greg Seamon
Blake Williams
Jerod Kruse
Bob Saunders
Brian Baswell
Eric Sanders
Mark Hutson

Hope I got this correct..

Hold overs?

--DL Clyde Simmons
--CB DeWayne Walker
--WR Adam Henry
--RB Ryan Lindley

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