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And being able to make up 3rd grade names for everyone who questions him is a better skill set? Or is it the constant lying that impresses you so much?

I mean it's fine to point out someone else is a piece of crap as long as you're willing to own your own piece of crap.


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And being able to make up 3rd grade names for everyone who questions him is a better skill set? Or is it the constant lying that impresses you so much?

I mean it's fine to point out someone else is a piece of crap as long as you're willing to own your own piece of crap.

When have I ever said that trump was intelligent or smart? I may agree with some of his policies, some I don't. I don't recall ever saying that I thought he was an intellect. Please point that out to me where I have.

I will say, I don't think hes that smart. But even a failed business man has more experience than a bartender. Heck, hue Jackson got a job after the browns, he even has more experience than AOC.

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I don't really disagree with you on her lack of experience. What I will say is that I think far more voters can relate to someone who has to fight to make a living than a billionaire who acts like some kind of bully.

I think she's the opposite of Trump which is what attracted voters to her. I think voters are searching for someone who can truly understand and relate to their struggles.


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How is she the opposite of Trump? She is an incompetant inexperienced twitter idiot just like him.


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I don't really disagree with you on her lack of experience. What I will say is that I think far more voters can relate to someone who has to fight to make a living than a billionaire who acts like some kind of bully.
Havent you and others been complaining that we need qualified candidates tho? Relating to people is secondary in my book. I don't care if she can make a mudslide, I want someone that's going to be able to actually pass legislation.

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I think she's the opposite of Trump which is what attracted voters to her. I think voters are searching for someone who can truly understand and relate to their struggles.
I agree with this. Doesn't mena I still cant poke fun.

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I think its funny that people on here blast trump and his voters all day every day for voting for him, yet support her. and vice versa. Its hilarious to me.

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Hey, in case you haven't been reading the thread, I certainly don't support her. I think if the Dems keep pushing fringe candidates they'll lose the independent vote. That's no way to win a national election.

What I was saying is simple. Most politicians are rich and come from wealth. I can understand how people would vote for someone that can directly relate to their struggles. That in no way means that I support a certain candidate. That means I can understand why voters would find her a good candidate.


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Poll: A majority of Americans support raising the top tax rate to 70 percent

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas...-tax-rate-to-70

Wow. Mind blown.




Of course they do....somebody has to keep paying for the freeloaders.

OCD...are you a freeloader?


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Poll: A majority of Americans support raising the top tax rate to 70 percent

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas...-tax-rate-to-70

Wow. Mind blown.




Of course they do....somebody has to keep paying for the freeloaders.

OCD...are you a freeloader?


By your standards I probably am, my wife gets a Vet Disability check. Other than that which she is entitled to not one damn penny from any other source than honest work. But you point is I'm liberal so I must be a taker... Of course you are wrong but you will never see that because you are the real taker.

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I don't really disagree with you on her lack of experience. What I will say is that I think far more voters can relate to someone who has to fight to make a living than a billionaire who acts like some kind of bully.
Havent you and others been complaining that we need qualified candidates tho? Relating to people is secondary in my book. I don't care if she can make a mudslide, I want someone that's going to be able to actually pass legislation.

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I think she's the opposite of Trump which is what attracted voters to her. I think voters are searching for someone who can truly understand and relate to their struggles.
I agree with this. Doesn't mena I still cant poke fun.


Poking fun at women and minorities is what you all do best.


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I don't really disagree with you on her lack of experience. What I will say is that I think far more voters can relate to someone who has to fight to make a living than a billionaire who acts like some kind of bully.
Havent you and others been complaining that we need qualified candidates tho? Relating to people is secondary in my book. I don't care if she can make a mudslide, I want someone that's going to be able to actually pass legislation.

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I think she's the opposite of Trump which is what attracted voters to her. I think voters are searching for someone who can truly understand and relate to their struggles.
I agree with this. Doesn't mena I still cant poke fun.


Poking fun at women and minorities is what you all do best.
That's right, because she is a women an minority she is not allowed to be criticized......bro I haven't replied to you in months because everything you say is either a joke or just flat out race baiting....

fact is, you are the one always pushing racism on this board. look in the mirror. I am done with you until you stop being a bigot racist.

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I don't really disagree with you on her lack of experience. What I will say is that I think far more voters can relate to someone who has to fight to make a living than a billionaire who acts like some kind of bully.
Havent you and others been complaining that we need qualified candidates tho? Relating to people is secondary in my book. I don't care if she can make a mudslide, I want someone that's going to be able to actually pass legislation.

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I think she's the opposite of Trump which is what attracted voters to her. I think voters are searching for someone who can truly understand and relate to their struggles.
I agree with this. Doesn't mena I still cant poke fun.


Poking fun at women and minorities is what you all do best.
That's right, because she is a women an minority she is not allowed to be criticized......bro I haven't replied to you in months because everything you say is either a joke or just flat out race baiting....

fact is, you are the one always pushing racism on this board. look in the mirror. I am done with you until you stop being a bigot racist.


Dude you literally admitted to poking fun at her, a minority and a women. Not criticizing her.

I love how some get all uppity when others mention women and minorities. Then turn it around as “race baiting”. Whatever that is? I’ll say this though I have noticed some people get really upset when they are constantly being told they are a “racist bigot”. And when I hear that I say to myself “gee I wonder why they are constantly being told they are a “racist bigot”


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Once again, the entire topic was on her stupidity. Nothing about her gender or race was brought up until your bigoted comments.

Its hilarious that an entire thread about how she says some pretty dumb things is discussed, yet you are the only one that brings race and gender. . . . .do you use a rod with your race bait?

psshh, be gone troll. You are exiled.

I truly feel bad for you that you hate white people so much. Its sad, pathetic, and downright makes you a small person.

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LOL A women with a higher IQ than you, is threatening right?


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Make your end days plans now boyos.


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While I'm not sure where that point is, there will be a point of no return. I just hope we're not there already.


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Ocasio-Cortez invokes Bible in response to White House on climate change



Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y) on Wednesday responded to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling her to leave climate change up to a “much higher authority” by invoking the Bible.




The lawmaker appeared to be paraphrasing a Relevant magazine article from last year titled, "Stopping Climate Change Is a Part of Following Jesus." The article included adapted translations of specific biblical passages.

Ocasio-Cortez has frequently used her Twitter account to spar with critics and promote her progressive messaging.

Her latest tweets came after Sanders pushed back on her comments that “the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.”

Sanders responded to the claim Tuesday night on Fox News.

“I don’t think that we are going to listen to her on much of anything, particularly anything that we will leave into the hands of a much, much higher authority,” Sanders told host Sean Hannity. “And certainly not listen to the freshman congresswoman on when the world may end.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/42668...ujgVzYnh53BKs-o

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stein-ocasio-cortez-promising-102755528.html

Ben Stein: Ocasio-Cortez Is Promising 'The Same Kinds Of Things' As Hitler

“We have a society in which there are an awful lot of people who have no idea that Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung all came to power promising the same kinds of things that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is promising. And it led to mass murder, it led to dictatorship, it led to genocide. These promises are old promises and they invariably lead to bad things.” - Ben Stein

“Making money is one of the most of harmless things there is to do in the whole world,” he said. “And that’s what our society is about.” - Bein Stein

“It’s not about ordering people around, putting them concentration camps. What do you do if a person is a richer or poorer person? What do you do? Do you take him away? Do you shoot him? Well that’s what the communists tried, it didn’t work out very well for them.” - Ben Stien


Sad thing is, he is absolutely right, but the majority of Americans are just simply too stupid to listen. They are not really taught REAL history and are instead given a watered down incorrect softball version of history.

According to Cortez, who is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, guys like Mao Tse-Tung are heros to the Socialist cause, they are the kinda guys their ideals and policies follow....of course history taught in schools and universities today leaves out the Mao Tse-Tung butchered vast numbers of people...probably millions.

Tung, just like his socialist buddies Stalin, and Hitler, got too much money? Guess we will just take you out and shoot you...thats what it ALWAYS comes down to with Socialism one way or the other.

The fact that moron Cortez even got elected is an affront to America and Freedom...she wants to put every single person into bondage via absurdly high tax rates, reducing you to the status of a feudal serf, i'd argue even a Feudal Serf would have it better then what Cortez would plan for America if she had it her way...Hell even the Catholic Church only wanted 10%, Cortez wants 70% LOL!!!!!!

Her ideas and plans will do nothing but make more Americans jobless, more Americans poor, and reduce to slavery at the hands of an over reaching government via absurd tax rates...and if you can't pay? Well the Socialists will do what they always do, if you cna't pay, they kill ya

Even in 3rd world Socialist countries today, they draw and quarter people for owing what amounts to something like 26 us dollars in taxes...its comical how many people in this country are just flat out stupid...the lies Cortez is saying are the same lies every despot from Napoleon to Milošević told their people before they took control and slaughtered them, and threatened slaughter to what was left if they didn't pay...thats not a country I want any part of.

Donald Trump is a lot of things, a goof, a moron, a putz, perhaps a criminal...however he isn;t a socialist and most certainly doesn't want to destroy capitalism, which its fact that capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system in history, and socialism has created more poor people than any other system...but yup...keep listening to Cortez...it won't end well...

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stein-ocasio-cortez-promising-102755528.html

Ben Stein: Ocasio-Cortez Is Promising 'The Same Kinds Of Things' As Hitler

“We have a society in which there are an awful lot of people who have no idea that Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung all came to power promising the same kinds of things that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is promising. And it led to mass murder, it led to dictatorship, it led to genocide. These promises are old promises and they invariably lead to bad things.” - Ben Stein

“Making money is one of the most of harmless things there is to do in the whole world,” he said. “And that’s what our society is about.” - Bein Stein

“It’s not about ordering people around, putting them concentration camps. What do you do if a person is a richer or poorer person? What do you do? Do you take him away? Do you shoot him? Well that’s what the communists tried, it didn’t work out very well for them.” - Ben Stien


Sad thing is, he is absolutely right, but the majority of Americans are just simply too stupid to listen. They are not really taught REAL history and are instead given a watered down incorrect softball version of history.

According to Cortez, who is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, guys like Mao Tse-Tung are heros to the Socialist cause, they are the kinda guys their ideals and policies follow....of course history taught in schools and universities today leaves out the Mao Tse-Tung butchered vast numbers of people...probably millions.

Tung, just like his socialist buddies Stalin, and Hitler, got too much money? Guess we will just take you out and shoot you...thats what it ALWAYS comes down to with Socialism one way or the other.

The fact that moron Cortez even got elected is an affront to America and Freedom...she wants to put every single person into bondage via absurdly high tax rates, reducing you to the status of a feudal serf, i'd argue even a Feudal Serf would have it better then what Cortez would plan for America if she had it her way...Hell even the Catholic Church only wanted 10%, Cortez wants 70% LOL!!!!!!

Her ideas and plans will do nothing but make more Americans jobless, more Americans poor, and reduce to slavery at the hands of an over reaching government via absurd tax rates...and if you can't pay? Well the Socialists will do what they always do, if you cna't pay, they kill ya

Even in 3rd world Socialist countries today, they draw and quarter people for owing what amounts to something like 26 us dollars in taxes...its comical how many people in this country are just flat out stupid...the lies Cortez is saying are the same lies every despot from Napoleon to Milošević told their people before they took control and slaughtered them, and threatened slaughter to what was left if they didn't pay...thats not a country I want any part of.

Donald Trump is a lot of things, a goof, a moron, a putz, perhaps a criminal...however he isn;t a socialist and most certainly doesn't want to destroy capitalism, which its fact that capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system in history, and socialism has created more poor people than any other system...but yup...keep listening to Cortez...it won't end well...


You sound foolish. Completely foolish.


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https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stein-ocasio-cortez-promising-102755528.html

Ben Stein: Ocasio-Cortez Is Promising 'The Same Kinds Of Things' As Hitler

“We have a society in which there are an awful lot of people who have no idea that Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse-Tung all came to power promising the same kinds of things that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is promising. And it led to mass murder, it led to dictatorship, it led to genocide. These promises are old promises and they invariably lead to bad things.” - Ben Stein

“Making money is one of the most of harmless things there is to do in the whole world,” he said. “And that’s what our society is about.” - Bein Stein

“It’s not about ordering people around, putting them concentration camps. What do you do if a person is a richer or poorer person? What do you do? Do you take him away? Do you shoot him? Well that’s what the communists tried, it didn’t work out very well for them.” - Ben Stien


Sad thing is, he is absolutely right, but the majority of Americans are just simply too stupid to listen. They are not really taught REAL history and are instead given a watered down incorrect softball version of history.

According to Cortez, who is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, guys like Mao Tse-Tung are heros to the Socialist cause, they are the kinda guys their ideals and policies follow....of course history taught in schools and universities today leaves out the Mao Tse-Tung butchered vast numbers of people...probably millions.

Tung, just like his socialist buddies Stalin, and Hitler, got too much money? Guess we will just take you out and shoot you...thats what it ALWAYS comes down to with Socialism one way or the other.

The fact that moron Cortez even got elected is an affront to America and Freedom...she wants to put every single person into bondage via absurdly high tax rates, reducing you to the status of a feudal serf, i'd argue even a Feudal Serf would have it better then what Cortez would plan for America if she had it her way...Hell even the Catholic Church only wanted 10%, Cortez wants 70% LOL!!!!!!

Her ideas and plans will do nothing but make more Americans jobless, more Americans poor, and reduce to slavery at the hands of an over reaching government via absurd tax rates...and if you can't pay? Well the Socialists will do what they always do, if you cna't pay, they kill ya

Even in 3rd world Socialist countries today, they draw and quarter people for owing what amounts to something like 26 us dollars in taxes...its comical how many people in this country are just flat out stupid...the lies Cortez is saying are the same lies every despot from Napoleon to Milošević told their people before they took control and slaughtered them, and threatened slaughter to what was left if they didn't pay...thats not a country I want any part of.

Donald Trump is a lot of things, a goof, a moron, a putz, perhaps a criminal...however he isn;t a socialist and most certainly doesn't want to destroy capitalism, which its fact that capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system in history, and socialism has created more poor people than any other system...but yup...keep listening to Cortez...it won't end well...


You sound foolish. Completely foolish.


But haven’t you heard about the gun toting thugs dragging Scandinavian families from their homes and killing them in the streets?!


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I don't agree with a lot that AOC says, but in this I will agree with her. I've been saying for a long time that it boggles my mind why, since the Bible talks about caring for God's creation, the Christians on the right aren't championing care for the planet.

I'm pretty sure it comes down to 1 of 2 things...

1. Either they have weighed the issues of personal freedoms with mandated environmental issues and decided that personal freedoms are more important... (but I think that might be giving a lot of people too much credit for assuming they have thought that deeply into it)..

or

2. The libs are for it, therefore, we must be against it. Which is a very common, albeit, idiotic conclusion that both sides reach on many issues.


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I don't agree with a lot that AOC says, but in this I will agree with her. I've been saying for a long time that it boggles my mind why, since the Bible talks about caring for God's creation, the Christians on the right aren't championing care for the planet.

I'm pretty sure it comes down to 1 of 2 things...

1. Either they have weighed the issues of personal freedoms with mandated environmental issues and decided that personal freedoms are more important... (but I think that might be giving a lot of people too much credit for assuming they have thought that deeply into it)..

or

2. The libs are for it, therefore, we must be against it. Which is a very common, albeit, idiotic conclusion that both sides reach on many issues.


My evangelical father basically says “we’re not going to destroy the planet faster than God’s plan”. In his view, I guess,God is going to destroy the earth as we know it to create heaven. So it really doesn’t matter.
It’s terrifying. It’s embarrassing.


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I think there is a very valid concern that A. the world has always been cyclical, that colder and warmer ages have been a part of the earths history and B. That there is so much money to be made much like the war on drugs, useless wars that politicians have pushed and gotten filthy rich off of course they would want to push legislation. I think both of those are reasonable questions and concerns.

At the end of the day, there is nothing to lose by going green and yes, the Al Gore's of the world are going to acquire generational wealth pushing what could potentially be an exaggerated version (to what extent who knows) of the truth, but that is a pretty stupid reason to oppose it even if it turns out to be greatly exaggerated.

From the conversations I've had with those opposed, the prevailing thought is that it is greatly exaggerated and that humans, particularly individuals (not corporations) have very little to no effect on it.

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The idea that one person or one family doesn't have a great impact makes sense. But when you consider how many people there actually are on this planet, it makes no sense at all to me.

What I see are that some people make excuses as to why we shouldn't do our best to protect our planet. Are we responsible for all of climate change? I really have no idea. Is weather cyclical? All signs point to that.

But I see it as a very shallow excuse not to do our best to take every measure we can to protect our planet. I don't see how Christians don't or won't understand that it would just be a respectful way to show God you appreciate all that he has blessed us with.

And let's not forget energy independence. People worry about gas and energy prices on a daily basis and then wish to shoot themselves in the foot by trying to keep the status quo of America depending on the rest of the world to keep the energy that drives America flowing at a reasonable cost.

None of this makes any sense to me.


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Why Congress needs AOC, more waitresses, fewer millionaires

The congresswoman known as “AOC” — Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) — once again has found a way to trigger conservatives and, maybe even more so, establishment Democrats. This time, in answer to a question posed by journalist Ta-Nehisi Coates, “Is it possible to live in a moral society with billionaires?,” Ocasio-Cortez replied: “No, it’s not. I’m not saying that Bill Gates or Warren Buffet are immoral, but a system that allows billionaires to exist when there are parts of Alabama where people are still getting ringworm because they don’t have access to public health is wrong.”

These words are revolutionary. They cut to the core of the agreement that Democrats and Republicans have made with the American oligarchs who really run our country. The consensus both parties seem to have come to is that the goal of American society should be to form a more perfect meritocracy, that there is no higher goal than making sure that those who win the genetic lottery of skills currently prized by the market can ascend to their rightful slot and make their billions. It’s their right. Those who don’t happen to have that particular combination of currently marketable skills can rot in minimum wage jobs, catering to the whims of the deserving creative class.

Yes, both parties have adopted this exalting of the meritocracy. The only difference is that Republicans believe the meritocracy is more or less functioning, while Democrats believe that if we can just rid ourselves of the biases of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., we can achieve the perfection of the meritocracy.

Gone is the embrace of a life of dignity for all, such as what FDR proposed with his Four Freedoms. Gone is the solidarity of the labor movement’s seeking through unified struggle to secure a decent living for all workers. Gone is the call for economic justice by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who fought against the oppression of the poor as well as structural racism. We have traded a vision of humanity and dignity for all for a vision of the fundamental righteousness of plutocracy. Today’s billionaire kings have a divine right to their largesse because the meritocracy said so. They deserve their vast wealth, just as those stuck serving the overclass deserve their lives of struggle and hopelessness.

This is the real divide in the Democratic Party: those who believe every citizen deserves a decent life, regardless of their zip code or their math score on the SAT, and those who just want to give people the vaguely-worded “right to compete.” As if that competition could ever be fair-minded, and as if the losers of that competition deserve their fate. It’s no accident that the alternative view — that we are all worthy — would be elevated by a bartender from the Bronx. AOC doesn’t know struggle from reading an article about it; she has seen it, smelled it, felt pressure to pay her own rent. And not 30 years ago before she made it, but today.

Recently, over eggs at the Holiday Inn Express in Charleston, West Virginia, our waitress pulled up some pics on her phone. “This is my son, Theo,” she told us, his name emblazoned in a tattoo on her arm. “He just turned 3 and he really wanted a sandbox. I couldn’t afford that, though, so I just threw some sand out behind the trailer and he had a blast.” She proclaimed it with a big smile at adorable Theo romping in his birthday sand.

Just think: This woman works full time in America, the wealthiest nation on the planet, and she can’t afford a sandbox for her kid’s birthday. But a couple hours’ drive down the road and you’ll arrive at the mountaintop mansion of former coal baron and Senate candidate Don Blankenship, complete with helipad and private water line. Is this moral? No, it is not. Is it moral that Redskins owner Dan Snyder can buy a $100 million yacht while homeless people lie in the streets of Washington, D.C.? Is it moral when cities throw hundreds of millions of dollars at Jeff Bezos to get him to please locate Amazon in their city, while public school systems are starved of funds?

AOC is right. America’s economic system is immoral. And if we had more waitresses in Congress, and fewer millionaires, we might actually do something about it.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/426...eSbPC9Y7SmjgCNU

I know it's an opinion piece, but it's pretty spot on and AOC looking visionary in her 'just a waitress' approach to government...


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I'm not sure I'd want a waitress doing spinal surgery either.


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I'm not sure I'd want a waitress doing spinal surgery either.


It's about being connected to regular people. Did you see Wilbur Ross and the Trump's perspective on how people should feed themselves with no paychecks?


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Wilbur Ross tried to do his best "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" (let them eat cake) impression


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Alright.... someone with photoshop skills need to give us Wilbur in a stacked-up Marie Antoinette wig.

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I'm not sure I'd want a waitress doing spinal surgery either.


I agree, but medicine isn't for the people by the people.

What does a poli sci or foreign relations degree do us?

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Alright.... someone with photoshop skills need to give us Wilbur in a stacked-up Marie Antoinette wig.

This ish is mandatory.


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Not my best work but it was done on my phone so it’ll have to do.


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Not my best work but it was done on my phone so it’ll have to do.


Man if you woke up next to that after a night at the bar, you'd have to silently chew your arm off to get away. Whew.


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Obvious hyperbole but with Senator Warren also traveling this road, this is not going away. to an extent she is correct.




Also correct here.


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Obvious hyperbole but with Senator Warren also traveling this road, this is not going away. to an extent she is correct.




Running a business by a vote from people that have no understanding of how to run a business sounds like a terrible idea.


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Obvious hyperbole but with Senator Warren also traveling this road, this is not going away. to an extent she is correct.




Running a business by a vote from people that have no understanding of how to run a business sounds like a terrible idea.



And yet running the government by electing a multiple bankrupted businessman who doesn’t know any aspect of government function is perfectly acceptable to you.

Either the standard is the standard, or you don’t have one to begin with.


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