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They are all staged. Reality TV is far from reality. They all have scripts, setups, etc.

Doesn't meant its a bad show, I enjoy Pawn Stars myself for the same reason you said.

Storage wars was good for a while, but I got tired of it.

This is one of the few shows in the reality tv genre that I really like. The few finds they make each season keeps me interested. They will probably never find treasure but the adventure of the treasure hunt takes you back to being a kid at heart IMHO.

I think it's just a matter of arrogance. We can't handle that the old timer's were smarter at trapping the mine that our ability to overcome it.

What I find interesting is that bronze age in Europe came about from copper mined in Michigan. Over 1 million tons of copper were mined from Michigan and sent to Europe when it was supposedly impossible. It's been proven though from various tests they have run.

When it comes to Bigfoot ... who knows. Seems a lot of people say they have seen, heard, or smelled one. Native Americans have totems of them dating from before they ever heard of large apes from Europe. No one though Gorillas were real either till researchers when and lived out where they were for several years. Can you really find elusive apes with a week long vacation? I reserve judgement till a more serious scientific study is done like they did for Gorillas.

There is a lot of real history they don't want to teach. I will leave it at that.

They smelled a big foot? I'm not sure what a big foot smells like, but knowing they don't make odor eaters that big, I suppose it's possible.

Bigfoot/Sasquatch is fake.


I promise you, mountain lions in n.w. Ohio is real.

I find buried to treasure to be quite curious, it drives exploration.

A legend, a myth, it drives humanity. If buried treasures drives exploration, I like buried treasure.

The Ancient Aliens took the treasure. My wife and I want about five seasons of our lives back from Oak Island show.

I personally am fascinated by the Ancient Aliens franchise. Some of that stuff just blows me away. Hard to explain some of it IMO.

Some of the stuff those people believe and their logic behind it, blows me away.

The one that I used to like, but quickly began to irk me was "What on Earth". Where they look at satellite photos and try to explain stuff.

I'm like, "It's not a ghost, it's a shadow from the tree right there in the middle of the image". And then they have these "experts" say, "It appears to be some sort of unexplained form, maybe some species we haven't discovered yet".

After 10 minutes of all this, "maybe its this maybe it's that", they end with, "And it appears it is just a shadow from the tree in the middle of the image."

Are you serious? As a History Major, I always hated Ancient Aliens.

They figure, that if we can't explain something, they go with Aliens. Such a cop-out.

I have found, that if you google the things ancient aliens talk about...there is generally a realistic common sense or proven explanation.

They reach hard on that show and make up wild assumptions to suspend belief. Got to get ratings somehow.

Yeah. Everyone knows that all of those things are either from people from the future, or an alternate dimension.

Aliens. :pshaw

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Agreed. The idea aliens built things like the pyramids of Giza really annoys me.

It takes away from the recognition of human accomplishment.

Oh c'mon, the aliens didn't build the pyramids, they just project managed the site.

I think what Bard's saying is he's fascinated by some of the stuff presented on the show, not that he believes they are the result of aliens. I am too....things like gobekli tepe and the stonehenge type stones in France. If it weren't for that show, I never would have known about those places. It's amazing what those people could do with the limited technology available.

This is their leader, does any more need to be said?

It certainly wouldn't surprise me if his hairdresser is from another universe...

His hairdresser is from Centauri Prime.

Head like a whisk broom.

When you have a forehead like that, you have to distract them with the hair.

I'm with you there. It was such a great premise for a show, but it quickly turned into 95% ridiculous conjecture just to stretch out the episode.

I didn't believe in bigfoot, then I heard the story of the 911 call in northern California, or something.

I say to myself, A guy, who buys a 250K plus dollar value house, in the woods in northern calif, doesn't have incidences 3 nights in a row, doesn't make a fake 911 call,

This, to me is not the kind of person who makes up stupid hoaxes.

Then I read somehow his german shepherd sized dog got thrown 50 yards across the front yard,
I remember when I tried to throw our small dog, over something, when I was a teenager, (and you can't do it, they are all malleable and sqirmy, it's not like picking up a football or even a free weight,

There's no way a person, throws a dog 50 yards, there's no way, a person, rich enough to have a nice home up there, makes up stupid hoax calls,

So what happened? Bear? Moose? bunch of kids? no

there's places remote enough.

It's like people want to believe, someone flys in to a cabin built in the top of the world, and think some people traveled over 600 miles without roads, just to demolish the only livable cabin, and throw rocks at the people, after they showed up, for hours,

and the nearest town, has the population of a mini mall, and it's 150 plus miles away.

I more likely believe, bigfoot is out there, like it or not.

I watch it. I read the same article the Laginis bros. read in Readers' Digest back in the 60's and have been fascinated with it since. Like the brothers say, it's as much about the discovery of historical fact as it is about finding treasure. I'm guessing the Chapel vault has been destroyed by flooding (if the vault existed), and most of the contents scattered or destroyed as well. They keep finding pieces of parchment, which is both sad and fascinating. Fascinating because of what it could represent. Sad because the documents/books/parchments/scrolls have obviously been destroyed by the flooding. I also find it interesting that the timeline of visitors keeps increasing. English, French, Templar, Viking, and now Roman. The concrete wall found under the water line is fascinating as well.

The Roman connection is speculative, but the technology to build with concrete is Roman, I believe. So, who knows? They were able to sail the Mediterranean, and cross the English Channel, it's possible they were able to hopscotch across the northern Atlantic. If Thor Heyerdahl proved anything, it's that ocean travel isn't bound by modern theory.

The Templar angle seems very possible to me. They of course had a very strong presence in Portugal, and their ability to build or buy ships wouldn't have been very challenging considering their immense wealth and connections. Also, the connection of the lead cross found on Oak Island to the image carved in the wall of the Templar prison in Domme, France is very compelling.

If there were any treasure there, that freed slave sharecropper who somehow became the richest man in Nova Scotia found the bulk of it. There haven't been any other explanations as to how he acquired his wealth.

I dunno man, every time I think I've found the answer, I just end up with more questions!

Wish they would throw that old Blankenship down the hole to get the needed seventh death to lift the curse and find the treasure!

It will be very interesting to see what that reveals.

As info: Randall Sullivan gave his book to the brothers on the show. Interested me so I picked it up for the Kindle. Fascinating!! Goes soooooo much deeper than the show has. About 70 percent through it and can't put it down. If the subject interests you I recommend it!

I don't think there are too many dots to connect. A poor freed slave comes to an island with reported buried treasure....and suddenly becomes the wealthiest man in the area? (I added the question mark to sound like the show's narrator, lol).

I think there WAS treasure and there IS treasure. There were easy pickings and then there is something that wasn't meant to be found. The book has many interesting theories and a host of other treasure hunters that failed. It's a weird place and people seem to revert to the same dumb tactics, each new outfit screwed up at some point. Amazing stuff!

I think it's likely Daniel McGinnis, John Smith and Anthony Vaughan found substantial treasure as well and never reported it. Both McGinnis & Vaughan went on to successful lives.

This is interesting from a scholarly perspective (long read):

Oak Island Treasure: The Triumph of Hope over Reason

The book (naturally) opens with those guys. You should see all the speculation and strange fact and fictional theories about them! Never touched it on the show!

I think the theory the guy in the link wrote about that Smith's cove and the money pit were used as either ship works or salt works is interesting. Particularly if everyone is running around like chickens with their heads cut off for no reason. Having said that, there is just enough found evidence of gold, bone, and parchment to keep it interesting.

Dan Blankenship and Fred Nolan were bigger adversaries than the show let's on.
They've gone toe to toe and have brandished weapons too! Serious feud!

You really need a program to keep track of who's who in the history of treasure seekers on that island. The show only really hits the major players! Again, I can't recommend the book enough! The lure of treasure is amazing in it's effects on men!