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j/c:

The reason why being from NE Ohio might be a problem is that Hunt is more likely to hang-out w/old friends and acquaintances than he would be in a place like KC. Apparently, that group of people are the sort of people who are not good influences on him.

I'm guessing that staying away from them is one of the stipulations that Dorsey put into the contract.

Colin's issue is more about him not being a good qb, wanting to be a starter, and not worth the drama.

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I think this is the biggest concern. Coming back to a potential negative environment. Hunt may be only costing the Browns $1M in a deal, but the move could possibly cost the Browns more if they want to hire someone to make sure he doesn't slip.

Don't let him get an apartment at The 9!

He's got a lot of baggage clearly. This is a long shot, but probably worth taking. We view him as a wild card who COULD make this offense even more dynamic

Some may be overreacting to him moving back to Cleveland. Yes, it could be a situation that he begins to hang with his old buddies and it might be a case where some of them may want to take advantage of a kid that has a few bucks in the bank. he's gotta have resources around him that will help him stay straight and narrow. I think that's not a difficult thing for the Browns to provide. His teammates will do that. and if not, you kick him to the curb.

This made me laugh.

"Sigh"

Just when the Browns had a good thing going. We got a young roster with a lot of talent, and one guy (Callaway) that appears to finally be getting over his off the field issues thanks to be around a positive environment and we add this POS in Hunt to our roster....unbelievable.

This guy KICKED a 19 year old girl while she was on the ground after he shoved her down...think about that KICKED a girl while she was on the ground...

I am all about forgiving Hunt, Everyone should have forgave him long ago. BUT forgiving him, and allowing him to play football again are to completely different things.

Kareem Hunt should have been barred from the NFL for life for what he done. Actions must have consequences. Even if you forgive, their must still be consequences.

This will be the move that will cause the Browns to fail. This will be the move that seals Dorsey's ticket out of Cleveland. This will be the move that puts a cancer in the locker room.

We got rid of Josh Gordon because he was problem, but then we bring in an even bigger problem. Say what you want about Gordon, but at least he wasn't violent and beating the stuffing out of women and beating people unconscious at night clubs...Josh Gordon was a choir boy compared to Hunt.

The worst thing about Hunt is not only is he a worthless POS human being, but even his word is worthless...He lied to the Chiefs and Andy Reid. Reid made the right move getting rid of this guy...Dorsey is just biased because he drafted him and brought him in back in KC.

This one move right here has the potential ruin EVERYTHING we got going here. This is the last guy you want Mayfield, Callaway, Ward, and Chubb being in the same room with...this is awful beyond belief.

There is a reason no one else was interested. Even Bellichik(the only guy I think could maybe keep him out of trouble and turn him around) wasn't interested in him...you can't win, coach, or be successful with losers like Hunt...losers breed losing...what a monumental blunder of vast proportions siging this twit...I don't care if we signed him for cupcakes...what he did was worse than what Ray Rice did...

It won't be long before the Women's Rights protests begin...people are ******, and rightfully so...this move is going to cost Haslam some money....this move will NOT sit well with women, and women will begin refusing to buy tickets, merch, and other things because the Browns organization is seen as an organization that supports men who beat and abuse women....Dorsey just proved himself a complete twit.

Has Dorsey ever been known to trade away backup players? I simply do not see a situation where he will be traded. A young guy on a team friendly deal that can help you and hasn't complained? Seems like fan speculation.

Honestly, I don't think there's much accuracy in this post at all... unfortunately the only thing you may have got right was that he kicked a 19 yr old girl.

its already begun

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cle...vocates-n970361

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...m=.f4cf1aac9dc2

Haslam...this is going to cost you BIG TIME

Do the right thing, tell Dorsey to get bent and put Hunt on Waivers now...we don't need him...we can get another back in the draft to backup Chubb...we don't need this cancer in our lockeroom. We don't need this distraction.

Saying Hunt is a bigger problem than Gordon. LOOOOL come on dude yeah right.

Hunt's last past two seasons (and he missed 5 games).
2,100 rushing yards
15TD's

830 receiving yards
10TD's




Josh Gordons last two seasons:
1,000 yards
5TD's



Kareem Hunt had more receiving TD's last season in one fewer games played.

"losers breed losing" yeah all that losing they were doing in Kansas City the past two seasons....

Dorsey is no dummy. He knew the PR hit the team would be taking. If he didn't, then he's an idiot. And I don't think he's an idiot.

I think the team knew this PR hit was coming and is willing to just let it blow over. There will be a lot of outcry for a while, and then something else will happen and it will move on.

I'm not saying it's right. Just saying that's the way it will be.

Want to make it "right" (as if such a thing is possible after committing such an act)? I'd structure his contract that a good chunk of every paycheck goes to a battered women's shelter, or something like that. I know that's probably not practical (or possibly even permitted under the CBA), but if it was, that might help things.

The Browns say hey, he screwed up, he is atoning, and now we're giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to battered women's shelters, or domestic violence advocates, etc.

Again, probably not practical, but just spitballing.

As for the outcry that we signed Hunt and Kapernick is still out there, I won't weigh in on the political part of it except to say there's no reason Kaepernick's name should come up here. We signed a troubled RB, not a troubled QB. Unless people are saying we should have signed Kaepernick as a RB.

I agree .. we knew the ramifications of signing him. Take the PR hit, hope he improves himself, and then move on

This would have worked, if these two sets of groups hadn't spent the past few years crying about literally everything. This noise falls on deaf ears anymore, I'd be surprised if literally any NFL GM cared much less even read this type of garbage.

He's a 23 year old high end player on a 1MM contract. There is virtually no downside. He acts up, he gets cut and they show they will enforce "zero tolerance" and it sets the tone for any player dubbed "zero tolerance". He doesn't and we got an all pro type player in his prime on a rental contract we can resign or trade.

I think what Hunt did was wrong and cowardly but the level that it has been overblown is inconceivable. Folks act like he drew back and kicked her like he was kicking from the 50 yard line ( as hard as he could) when in actuality the video show him pretty much knocking her over with his foot. Not that that is a good thing but he was obviously not trying to hurt her at that point. Also when she hit the ground he actually pushed the guy who fell into her. Again not good, but if the story is going to be told at least it should be told in complete truth. Anyone lumping him in with Mixon or Rice is delusional.

Where do you get the idea that no one else wanted Hunt? I will say that I believe a lot of teams would have signed hunt.
I also contend that it is worth a million of Haslam's money just to keep him off of another teams roster.

Dude, Please.

Funny how Kansas City was one of 2 others interested in Signing him.

YEAH. The same KC that released him. Hmmmmm.

So Callaway can turn his life around, but Hunt cannot. Do you have that stance on what information? Please share. I would like to know the thousands of dollars you have used to investigate this kid, that I would be the Browns have.

So I am going to go on a limb and say you didn't watch the video. Because if you did, you would actually notice that the PUSH was worse than the kick. He barely touched her with his foot. Not making an excuse, he should have not done either - and it has cost him millions of dollars already. But lets keep the facts straight. He was on video, yet he wasn't charged. The push was more "flagrant" than the supposed kick.

I don't know why her age matters, shouldn't matter if she was 19 or 49, he should not have shoved her. But he's 23. They would have attended HS at the same time. Age has not bearing on this incident other than to try to pull heartstrings over facts.

This is the scenario we find ourselves debating right now as a society. But at what point, does the crime fit the punishment. He's been cut, and will be suspended most likely. He will have lost millions of dollars. At what point should he not be allowed to make a living? The NFL is a job. McDonalds is a job. So if a person hit a women, they should never be allowed to work again? Then what, the tax payers pay for them the rest of their lives?

Yeah, your just plain wrong. lol

Once again, you do not know the situation you are talking about, and this statement proves it. You do realize Gordon admitted to robbing people with a gun right? He admitted to being in gangs? I suggest you do some research before stating FALSE information.

Once again, you are out of your element. There was a story TODAY that KC was trying to get RESIGN Hunt lol. Doesn't sound like ol' Andy cared too much.

Once again, you prove you have no idea about the people you are talking about. If you THINK for ONE SINGLE SECOND that Baker is the type of person that that someone is going to affect him, or have influence on him - you have not been watching this kid or listening to how he conducts himself. I would again suggest doing a little bit of research on the topic.

Nah. Baltimore sells out after Ray Rice. Cincy had no issues after they drafted Mixon. How may times have we seen DA players come back, the team wins, and no one cares.

Itll be a non the week after he plays.

I would say good post, but I am sorry, I cannot. There was not a single thing here that any substance of any factual information, or anything even remotely to what actually happened, or the situation that is going on.

LOL Can't yell about Baker anymore so you have to find something new to overreact to... LOL You so damn funny

The guy is just looking for attention. Don't pay attention to posts like this from him.

This seems almost cruel. What's the point of being rich in Cleveland if you can't live at the 9?

LOL,, Yeah, I know,, But I wanted to have fun at his expense..

Imagine if he ended up in Pittsburgh or Baltimore instead.

Might be bad having him on our team if your one to hold his past against him, possibly worse if we had to face him 2x a year for the next few years

He's probably just paying with a stolen credit card anyway.

Honestly the thought that women's groups would care so much that they would protest a Browns game is pretty hysterical.

LOL

Hey,, just a dumb question, it's been reported that Hunt stands to get a 6 game suspension. If, and I still think it's a big "IF", he doesn't do something stupid so we don't keep him, Does he get paid for those 6 games and does that come out of the $1 million contract? Just wondering how that works

I maybe wrong, but I was under the impression it would go against the cap, but hes not paid. I am not confirming that though.

From every account that I can remember, after any bonuses paid, the remainder of your contract is split into 16 equal game checks. You are only eligable to be paid if you are available to the team. Meaning you lose the game checks that correspond with a supsension.

ie.... If you're suspended for six games you lose three eighths of your salary.

Seems odd doesn't it, something hits the CAP that you don't have to pay out? I don't know about that Willi.. seems odd.. But maybe that's the way it works..

Anyway, It doesn't actually mean much either way.. $1 million in NFL terms just isn't a lot of money and not really much of a risk at all..

People forget we're not paying anyone on the roster to be a role model. Chuck said it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqk4WPnrpM

Does this mean we will win the Super Bowl next season? The last time we won we had a woman beater at RB.

Question/comment...

Right now he's on the exempt list, which means he doesn't count against anyone's cap.? (Right?)
When he gets suspended, he comes off the exempt list, and then does count against the cap?

Not really, there is dead cap money after you trade player sometimes.

It would be another way to ensure that teams are doing their best to keep these players accountable. Heck, if its not, I think should be that way! lol

Wouldn't it depend on the contract status, if it's fully guaranteed money, shouldn't he receive it all?

The only fully guaranteed part of a contract comes in the form of bonuses. Signing bonuses and such. I covered that in my above post.