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Maybe we're just speaking in different terms here thus causing some confusion.

I think Devalve can be a contributor and play the role of a second or third TE in the league. I don't doubt that for a second. My contention is that he won't be that "impact type TE" that a team will depend on as their main weapon at the position. Unless it's on a temporary, band aid type situation until they can upgrade the position.

No. No confusion. I think he could be a stud in the right system.

We have both stated our opinions, so cool, we can leave it at that. No big deal.

He's no Jason Witten, but I think he could be a Gary Barnidge.

Jason Witten on the football field

OR

Jason Witten on MNF?

I have always liked Devalve and hope he finally puts it all together this year ...

Jason Witten was a Lousy Football player, average at best.

He was made even worse by the fact Joe Buck, IIRC, always refered to him as "future hall of famer",

It's a disgrace to the hall of fame, and football purism, to hear a call like that after watching this guy make a pedestrian catch.

I think Devalve could easily be a 1000 yard TE. He won't though, as we don't play him enough, or give him enough targets.

During his time with us, when he's on the field, he produces. He always has. It's unfortunate he dealt with a injury last year.

Jason Witten was an excellent TE. He was not "lousy."

I think some folks overrate Devalve in my opinion.

ditto

Devalve is similar to Steve Heiden in being steady and reliable but not great by any measure. JMHO

Jason Witten, 11 Pro Bowls, 2 times All Pro, 1152 rec for 12,448 yards (10.8 avg rec), 68 TDs.

Ozzie Newsome (HOF), 3 Pro Bowls, 1 time All Pro, 662 rec for 7980 yards (12.1 avg rec), 47 TDs.

Witten is a Hall of Famer.

It would appear more people underrate Devalve.

that just about covers it! smh

That often happens the minute a player puts on a Browns uniform. We all saw what happened. Devlave was on the roster and the powers that be saw an obvious need to upgrade. Thus Njoku was drafted. Yet somehow other NFL teams would see it differently? Our fans certainly do.

You see it as trying to knock a homer down. I would expect no less. If you read the thread some seemed to believe he was the type of TE that could carry the #1 TE position and be a 1000 yard TE. Even you aren't suggesting that.

Context is everything.

For those who believe the above, yes, I think the uniform gets in the way of their objectivity.

So you go on with your personal vendetta as per usual. I expect no less from you. But don't pull your usual BS later and claimed I started it with you.

DeValve flashed as arookie ... he also had 2 or 3 BIG drops in not all that many targets ...

He showed a lot of POTENTIAL in his brief stints as a rookie ... unfortunately since then its been one injury after another ... then by the time he finally got healthy last year we had a pretty good thing going on O and he hardly ever saw the filed and when he did he was barely a blip on the radar when it came to targets ... I think he had 2 or 3 .. am i mistaken? ...

Dude flashed as a rookie and literally nothing since then ... he’ll get his shot in TC ... i think on THISTEAM the odds are stacked against him making the team .. he’s gonna have to SHOW to make it .. i think after Njoku were gonna ne looking for blocking TE’s that will be asked to do very little in the pass game ... thats not Seth;s game ...

I do believe there is a spot on an NFL roster for him and he can be productive ... a decent recieving TE type numbers in the RIGHT SITUATION .. just more than likely not here ..

And you pretty much summed up my feelings on it. He has a place on an NFL roster for sure. But he's not that 1000 yard receiver type or a top tier TE.

My comments were directed towards those who claimed otherwise.

I think Fells is a valuable guy and I hope we keep him. In fact, I think he is far more important to the team than Devalve.

I like him too. He's a great blocker, but is also good enough to get open when needed and catch the ball.

Yep, good blocker and his size and BB background make him an asset in the red zone.

I heard an interview with Fells on CBD the other day; he's an engaging guy. He didn't play football in college, but he did play basketball, and went on to play professional basketball for 5 years in Argentina, Mexico, France, Finland, and Belgium after college. He's 6-7, 270, so probably a power forward. His brother, NFL TE Daniel Fells, encouraged him to try football when hoops didn't work out for him, and after a tryout as a DE with Seattle, they asked him to run some basic patterns and immediately signed him as a TE. Gotta root for a story like that.

Fells had some big plays for the Browns last year. He was a really pleasant surprise.

Like your comment? Or lack of comment should I say. So i suppose you think Devalve is a 1000 yard, top tier TE too.

lmao

Right. Because this is what people are saying.

You may wish to read the thread. It was said. Which is what I responded to. Talking football? Devalve's stats indicate he's not on that level. Reading is fundamental.

How many TE did have 1000+ yards last year?

Yep. I overlooked that ONE person who said 1000 yds in this thread amongst the many that posted about him and his play. None of your posts responded to that poster.

But yeah, let's respond to different posters and use one person's opinion as a claim of multiple people's perspective.....

....'Cause that's smart.

You'll have to ask HotByougturk. He's the one who said Devalve could be a 1000 yard TE. I'm the guy who disagrees with that.

The point works that way as well. There just aren't many 1000 yard TE in the NFL.

No there aren't. And those that are come from a very short list of extremely gifted athletes at the position. Which is exactly why I took issue with the comment.