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Setting things up where he won't be forced to take a need pick but rather take BPA. Smart move. Nobody knows where the BPA will be at #17 and thus filling your holes before the draft gives you the flexibility to make the very most of your pick. I think most of us didn't know which players would be picked up before the draft, but felt pretty safe in saying what positions would be signed.
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The timing of this release cannot be of a testimony to our talent level. There had to be some possible negative to the degree that it got him CUT/RELEASED. I can see a veteran who we were going to cut ties and was doing them a favor so that he can sign prior to the Opening of FA. That ONE MONTH FA period coming.
I think he INSULTED maybe Dorsey for the passing over of Williams? Or possibly insulted our new DC? Or some incident like domestic assault? Drugs, White collar crime??? who knows but this could not be a statement of our talent level as the kid was a FA and would not be on our roster in about a month or so.
Got to be something else not directly Football. To me he had some possibilities as a ST specialist. Not as a starter. He filled in and did a mediocre job which is an over Achievement for him.
Now I'd like to get back to FA.
The kid who got away?
As I was watching all the playoff games as I'm sure most of you all were. Maybe it was mentioned but I miss it if it was.
I was rather impressed with a kid we drafted who was RAW at the time and after we cut him he has been with several teams.
Still I was impressed and think he has finally arrived and I WANT HIM Back where he belongs. Maybe not as a starter but he could still progress into a starter CB.
I'm talking about Pierre Desir.
Now 29 (as of September) the kid is 6'2" and a CB a lot of the raw edges have been shaved I still think he can progress and even get better. Also if he stays in one system for the next 3 years he can get to that stud level.
https://www.stampedeblue.com/2019/2/6/18212798/season-film-room-pierre-desir-quietly-shined-in-2018
I don't think he is that elite level and hoping his agents won't be seeking elite money. If so he will be in that 2nd tier bracket and I would love to have him here. A modest investment turning out to be a great move (I hope)
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Interesting release ... wonder how he did last year ... he used to be real good ... no clue how he did last year ...
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Falcons released K Matt Bryant.
Bryant will turn 44 in May and has already said he plans to continue his playing career. Bryant was scheduled to make a $2.45 million salary and $1.05 million in roster bonuses in 2019, so the Falcons are wiping that off the books. Bryant missed three games in 2018 but remained one of the most trusty kickers when on the field, sinking 20-of-21 field goals and 33-of-35 PATs.
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I think this was just the fact that Dorsey and staff didn't see Vallejo making the team next year. While he was decent on special teams when he was asked to play on defense he was down right terrible. Vallejo saw defensive snaps in only 6 games (including 1 start), which he made 16 tackles and 4 assists but he had 5 missed tackles and in coverage he allowed 10 of 11 passes thrown his way for 121 yds and a td. PFF gave him a defensive grade of 42.4 which according to their chart is poor.
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His only FG miss came from over 50 yds last year so he's still very good but at 44 yrs old do we want to take a guy who may only be here a year or 2 or go with a young guy who we can develop?
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I think this was just the fact that Dorsey and staff didn't see Vallejo making the team next year. While he was decent on special teams when he was asked to play on defense he was down right terrible. Vallejo saw defensive snaps in only 6 games (including 1 start), which he made 16 tackles and 4 assists but he had 5 missed tackles and in coverage he allowed 10 of 11 passes thrown his way for 121 yds and a td. PFF gave him a defensive grade of 42.4 which according to their chart is poor. The 2019 Roster Turnover has begun!!
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I think this was just the fact that Dorsey and staff didn't see Vallejo making the team next year. While he was decent on special teams when he was asked to play on defense he was down right terrible. Vallejo saw defensive snaps in only 6 games (including 1 start), which he made 16 tackles and 4 assists but he had 5 missed tackles and in coverage he allowed 10 of 11 passes thrown his way for 121 yds and a td. PFF gave him a defensive grade of 42.4 which according to their chart is poor.
Why cut a guy when in a month or so he will not be on our roster. Did we add somebody and have to be under a number so he was the bottom of an 86 barrel???
Whether he was in our plans or not is not the issue he was going to NOT be a Brown in a month or so when FA starts. Why cut him? ergo me saying he had to have done something and nosy so want to know what that was...lol 
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I think this was just the fact that Dorsey and staff didn't see Vallejo making the team next year. While he was decent on special teams when he was asked to play on defense he was down right terrible. Vallejo saw defensive snaps in only 6 games (including 1 start), which he made 16 tackles and 4 assists but he had 5 missed tackles and in coverage he allowed 10 of 11 passes thrown his way for 121 yds and a td. PFF gave him a defensive grade of 42.4 which according to their chart is poor.
Why cut a guy when in a month or so he will not be on our roster. Did we add somebody and have to be under a number so he was the bottom of an 86 barrel???
Whether he was in our plans or not is not the issue he was going to NOT be a Brown in a month or so when FA starts. Why cut him? ergo me saying he had to have done something and nosy so want to know what that was...lol Maybe they wanted to give him a chance to get picked up.. Dunno for sure.
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He was still on his rookie contract and wasn't scheduled to be a free agent for 2 more years.
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The only reason I don't want Clowney is because I don't want to spend like crazy right now. We want young talent, but no thanks to lighting our future drafts and cap on fire.
I trust Dorsey. If he can do what he did with the FS position (Randall for Kizer), then there's no reason he can't figure out the DT position.
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We want to spend crazy right now, so we can cut these guys before we have to re-sign the five first rounders we have in a few years. With Baker playing so well, our cap space is a ticking time bomb. These next two years are the only years where we can sign outside talent without forfeiting homegrown talent.
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I'd love to add the best player everywhere.. But that doesn't guarantee success.. You'd think so, but not for sure.
I'm more worried about making sure that we have the cap to sign Garrett, Mayfield, Chubb, Calloway, Robinson?, and a few others when the time comes... I'd really like to grow and keep our own.
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I think this was just the fact that Dorsey and staff didn't see Vallejo making the team next year. While he was decent on special teams when he was asked to play on defense he was down right terrible. Vallejo saw defensive snaps in only 6 games (including 1 start), which he made 16 tackles and 4 assists but he had 5 missed tackles and in coverage he allowed 10 of 11 passes thrown his way for 121 yds and a td. PFF gave him a defensive grade of 42.4 which according to their chart is poor.
Why cut a guy when in a month or so he will not be on our roster. Did we add somebody and have to be under a number so he was the bottom of an 86 barrel???
Whether he was in our plans or not is not the issue he was going to NOT be a Brown in a month or so when FA starts. Why cut him? ergo me saying he had to have done something and nosy so want to know what that was...lol Maybe they wanted to give him a chance to get picked up.. Dunno for sure.
It was to make room for the signing of Hunt. Again a kid who was going to come off our roster anyway...why now? I wondered...Hunt was the answer.
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I'd love to add the best player everywhere.. But that doesn't guarantee success.. You'd think so, but not for sure.
I'm more worried about making sure that we have the cap to sign Garrett, Mayfield, Chubb, Calloway, Robinson?, and a few others when the time comes... I'd really like to grow and keep our own. That's going to be 3 years down the line for Garrett, Peppers and Njoku. Four years for Baker and the rest of those dudes will be be RFAs, if we don't reach an extension. Unless we give a few people some obscene 6 year deals, fully guaranteed, we'll have plenty of time to make sure our accords are in order to be able to sign them. That doesn't even begin to start with possible future cap cuts like Jamie Collins, Landry and Zietler (not saying we should cut any of them, but just saying they could be cap causalities).
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Not sure where to put this ... the latest on AB ...
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NBC Sports' Peter King reports Antonio Brown's critical tweets of Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger have scared off at least one team.
Brown tweeted Roethlisberger has an "owner mentality" and called out Tomlin for telling the team Brown quit on them during Week 17. King writes the tweets put off at least one team, and he believes they also scared off others. If they are worried about anything, teams should really be more concerned about Brown's recent run of off-field issues. That said, neither those incidents nor the tweets will prevent teams from lining up to acquire one of the best receivers in the league.
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Next thing you know he'll be suing the league for collusion.
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I don’t see a scenario in witch they trade him ... the cap hit is too big and there window is closing ...
Plus whose gonna want to take on that contract at his age ... hes still productive as all get out but he’s getting up there in age ..
I think the stilers would love to trade him ... just don’t see how it’s feasible when u look at the whole picture ...
Unless he holdouts he’s gonna be a stiler next year ...
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I've seen teams do some pretty stupid things. I agree with you that this would be one of them.
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May be true... but I think the damage is done. Antonio isn't playing if he's a steeler next season.
It'll be interesting how this plays out. They found a replacement for Bell, will they find one for Brown?
Despite the cap hit, or non cap hit, I think it's in everyone's best interest that the Steelers trade him.
I expect him to be traded and I would surprised if he's not.
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With the burning of the Bridges being done...and if this aint burning bridges what is???
I don't see why any team would trade when its very probable that he will be released.
Then teams might jump on the AB band wagon as it was reported by your find Diam. Teams are dropping out of the AB (I'm ASSuming AB trade talks) He's going to be released. Unless the Steelers are looking to cut off their nose to spite their Face.
But so happy the Steelers are breaking down
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As the squeelers turn has another plot twist ... IF this ones true I’ll be wrong yet again .. and man oh man would that be sweeeeet .... WOW .. if they trade him ... just WOW in a GREAT WAY ... Ever since we fired Sashi the stars have been aligning PERFECTLY for us ... this would just be another star in the RIGHT PLACE ....  ANTONIO BROWN WR, PITTSBURGH STEELERS Antonio Brown met with Steelers owner Art Rooney II on Tuesday. Adam Schefter reports GM Kevin Colbert and VP Omar Khan were also at the meeting along with Brown's agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Brown said they "had a great meeting" in which they "cleared the air on several issues." Brown also said he and Rooney "both agreed that it is time to move on." If that is true -- a source confirmed "everyone agreed the trade will be for the best" to Schefter -- the Steelers should begin allowing other teams to talk money with Brown as soon as possible in order to help facilitate a trade. Brown is owed a $2.5 million roster bonus on March 17. The Steelers need him off the books by then if they plan to trade him. SOURCE: Antonio Brown on Twitter Feb 19, 2019, 11:15 AM
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I heard on Mike and Wingo this AM that AB now wants to known as Mr. Big Chest.
Like most Browns fans, I was tired of Bell and Brown handing it to us twice a year. And, though I am not proud to admit it, I am pleased at what looks like turmoil over there.
When it first became rumored that AB might be available for trade, I was lukewarm to the idea of bringing him here. I think the appeal was more with using AB against Pitts than actually having him as a Brown. I am not more on board with the idea now. I would rather bring Perriman back, all things considered.
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I heard on NFL Network that meeting was a courtesy meeting by AB with the owner. As mentioned I think the Bridges have been burnt!
I wouldn't mind signing him if he hits the FA Market especially if we do not sign Perriman. Hey a 3 year contract with a lot guaranteed...why not. He has 3 good years left in him.
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I heard on NFL Network that meeting was a courtesy meeting by AB with the owner. As mentioned I think the Bridges have been burnt!
I wouldn't mind signing him if he hits the FA Market especially if we do not sign Perriman. Hey a 3 year contract with a lot guaranteed...why not. He has 3 good years left in him.
jmho I hear ya, but he sure has a tude... One I don't think the Browns need.
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Speaking Wednesday, Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said the team will try to trade Antonio Brown, but they "won't give him away."
If the trade doesn't benefit the Steelers, then Colbert said they won't trade Brown. We find that hard to believe at this point since all bridges have been successfully burned between A.B. and many in the organization, but we get that Colbert has to act like he isn't desperate to deal the star receiver. Reality is the Steelers pretty much have to trade him after the owner publicly admitted it was best for both sides to go their separate ways. The Steelers may get a Day 2 pick.
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I’d rather not. If you forced me, a 1 year show me deal with lots of incentives. Once he’s cut obviously. I’m not wasting a pick. He’s a great receiver. You have to be a team player. No idea what went on there but I want no part of that. You’re either with the team or out.
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I heard on NFL Network that meeting was a courtesy meeting by AB with the owner. As mentioned I think the Bridges have been burnt!
I wouldn't mind signing him if he hits the FA Market especially if we do not sign Perriman. Hey a 3 year contract with a lot guaranteed...why not. He has 3 good years left in him.
jmho I hear ya, but he sure has a tude... One I don't think the Browns need.
But we just added a kid in Jaelen Strong who is 25 had an ACL injury and surgery that had him sitting out the 2018 season.
He could be another gem that Dorsey finds for us. If you add Perriman as well. This could mean we are fixed in the WR position. Even prior to FA (which outside the possible AB still to be seen) is a really poor WR FA class, one of the worst I've seen. Maybe why AB is doing this, he might be smarter than all think. If he gets released he would be in a unique position to auction himself off and get a ton of MONEY $$$. So in reality I don't want us to spend that kind of money on a WR.
Draft only if there is a steal available with our 3rd round pick. The first round that we have multiple picks!
So hopefully we will have both Strong and Perriman on our Roster. I think there is a lot more to Strong than initial perception. if...that's a BIG IF! He has fully recovered from his ACL, sitting out 2018 should make it so. I just hope he worked hard, REAL HARD and use his experience to motivate himself to become the best!
Telling you all this is going to be an incredible pick up. And you know what??? If it isn't we didn't lose not one thing!
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j/c: In addition to a stout DT, I would like to see the Browns add a big-time edge rusher. I had my heart set on Dee Ford, but it's been reported w/in the last few days that the Chiefs will franchise him. The other guy I would love to see in a Brown's uniform is Demarcus Lawrence. He's rated by many as the top FA in this year's class and he will be expensive, but this cat can play. He's a difference maker. Here is a recent article about his situation and if you read it, you will notice that the Browns are mentioned as a possible landing spot.
Demarcus Lawrence and the Cowboys Facing a Crossroads Ahead of NFL Free Agency
The Dallas defensive end had a standout season in 2018 playing under the franchise tag, despite a labrum issue. Now that Lawrence is again an unrestricted free agent, will he stay with the Cowboys, either on the franchise tag or via a long-term deal, or will he walk?
By Conor Orr February 20, 2019
Throughout the next several weeks, we’ll be assessing the market on some of the best free agents set to come available on March 14. Beyond scheme fit, these decisions will be impacted by available finances, team thoughts on current draft prospects and perception of value vs. actual value. We’ll try and parse through those ideas here.
Player: Demarcus Lawrence
Age: 26 (turning 27 on April 2)
Position: Defensive end
2018 Salary: $17,143,000 (franchise tag)
2018 Statistics: 23 quarterback hits, 15 tackles for a loss, 10.5 sacks, two forced fumbles
Why he’s a top-tier free agent: Lawrence is the best traditional, hand-in-the-dirt pass rushing defensive end on the market this offseason. He followed up a prove-it year in 2017 with one of the better seasons at the position in ’18. Typically lined up on the right side, he can make up a lot of ground to blow up runs behind the left tackle. He’s going to make life difficult for any tight end and may from time to time require a chip from a running back or some additional inside help. He has amazing control of his 6' 4" frame and attacks flat-footed tackles almost like a penetrating guard in basketball, with a series of misdirection moves supplemented by his power. While this will be mentioned as both a positive and a negative, Lawrence has been playing two of his best seasons with serious shoulder pain. As the Dallas Morning News reported recently, Lawrence still has labrum surgery and recovery to go.
Risks involved: As we said, Lawrence played extraordinarily well considering he’s been dealing with a labrum issue for the better part of two seasons. Teams will have to wonder if post-surgery, they will a player who will be free of these issues and uninhibited at the line. Or, are they getting a player who may take a while to heal post-surgery and could miss mandatory mini-camp. I thought NFL Network outlined what seems to be the most troubling issue here: The Cowboys tagged him last year and—similar to Washington during the Kirk Cousins debacle—the team now faces the prospects of giving him a long-term deal commensurate with the second-year tag number. Remember that being tagged twice in a row comes with a built-in raise—a hefty increase from Lawrence’s $17.1-million figure a year ago. They know that it’s Dallas’ emergency parachute option to keep him in town should a long-term deal not be reached, which means that the average salary per year of any long-term option will begin with that number.
Market prospects: Lawrence is in an interesting situation. He can do more than Dallas’ defense allowed, though it will be a bit of a gamble should another team sign him. He’s the best defensive end available in a draft that is loaded with talented pass rushers, so teams will have to decide whether they’ll pay for a finished product, or bet on themselves to develop one quickly. As we’ve mentioned before, Lawrence is fortunate that there are several teams with a deep trove of cash to spend this offseason, and most of them need help on defense.
Potential destinations: Cowboys, Colts, Jets, Browns
Contract comps:
Note here: There haven’t been a ton of top-flight defensive ends signing contracts in the post-Khalil Mack era. Also, Mack is listed as a defensive end but doesn’t exactly play like a traditional DE. So, these comps are going to feel a little out of date, and will contain APY numbers that Lawrence will undoubtedly top. They will have to, considering that the APY of both Chandler Jones and JJ Watt was below Lawrence’s franchise tag number from 2018.
J.J. Watt, Texans: Six years / $100,005,425 / APY $16,667,571 / Total guarantees: $51,876,385
Chandler Jones, Cardinals: Five years / $82.5 million / APY $16.5 million / Total guarantees: $53 million
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Word has it the boys are gonna franchise Lawrence if they can’t get a deal done and he has said he won’t sign it .... guess we’ll find out if he’s as dumb as Bell ... *L* ...
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j/c, I don't know if we will sign any of the bigger name players, but a name that would make since for a rotational guy or a bridge for a rookie DT could be Rodney Gunter from Zona.
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Many are speculating that the Seahawks will Franchise him, but if not I would love to see us bring him back home (he is a local player)
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They took “good fit” and made it “leading candidate”. Click bait.
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