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I'm hoping Landry's presence is a big difference
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ok, just saw it. Wow!
I'm not sure I like what we gave up, but we definitely have a big chess piece for the offense, now.
#17 #95 S Jabril Peppers
all for OBJ Not going to read all 300 posts...lol
My son called me around 10 we were happy there wasn't a family emergency.
I'm not a big Elite WR guy but I did say only if we are talking about OBJ but again I did not want to give up 2 First round picks. 17, 95 and Peppers although I like Peppers a lot Safeties and VERY GOOD ONES are available Often and we probably will sign a good one in FA.
OBJ is an amazing WR. He can break ankles and with the weapons we got now he will be one on one often. We have one of the most accurate QBs around and we have a system that gets rid of the ball quickly.
What I like about OBJ is that when he goes in motion he will indicate Man or Zone easily. It is a tough kid and is willing to block his butt off for anyone. RB or WR...keep in mind that also is a good trait of Landry. He and Landry will bring a new dynamic to the WR Room. Watch as they all will become tough guys not wimpy like most WRs. They will all block for each other and be assets to the Running game. Chubb is going to be a Beast this year.
Best news is we just went CRAZY on the DL as well if we score like I think we will it will force our opponents to pass a lot more and we will pin our ears back. I can see us as the Sack Leaders in the NFL. This move really changes so much positive on our team. We will get over the talent that we would get at #17 soon enough and as mentioned all though I liked Peppers more than some here, Safety and SS is an easy commodity to fill.
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That's three power contracts. Perhaps part of the reason Peppers was moved was the idea that a handful of players in 2-3 years won't/can't be extended because of other guys who take priority around the same time? Other players might fall into that box too now with this deal This was my thinking. Baker, Myles, Ward, Chubb, and you probably can only keep either Njoku or peppers. Right now, you get OBJ for peppers and let Njoku walk. I think this move was done knowing that either njoku/peppers were not going to be retained at some point. I certainly think Njoku falls into that category but also Chubb simply for the fact that you can get RBs on the cheap almost anytime.
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My Lord.
Pittsburgh has it's offense BLOWN up.
Baltimore has it's defense BLOWN up.
Talk about a DCs nightmare.
Bring on Bellicheck.
Bet New England is a Monday Nighter.
Do we play KC this year?
Beckham throws a pass as nice as Landry. Hmmmmmm. No to KC, but we do have the Jets... Le Bell will be there,, Stop him..
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This doesn't diminish these deals in anyway for me but thought it was information DawgTalkers would want.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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That sucks...we should nix the deal now...lol
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Lol. You and ONE other out of 50,000,000.
Go Nap. What a douchey comment.
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This doesn't diminish these deals in anyway for me but thought it was information DawgTalkers would want. That sure heck isn't a positive...
What else did we give up for one dude?
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mac, I don't know if you trust me or not, but OBJ is:
--very popular w/his teammates --a tough and willing blocker --a guy who forces teams to game-plan against --one of the hardest working guys in the game --extremely passionate --probably the game's most gifted WR.
He is a bit immature, but he isn't a bad person. I think he brings a lot of great things to the team and this move is the one that could put us over the top.
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This doesn't diminish these deals in anyway for me but thought it was information DawgTalkers would want. Browns and Giants make it all one trade: Odell Beckham Jr. and Olivier Vernon for Kevin Zeitler, Jabrill Peppers, No. 17 and No. 95; eliminate mid-round swap Updated 8:35 AM; Today 8:28 AM 26 Gallery: Odell Beckham Jr. traded to the Browns for No. 17, third-round pick and Jabrill Peppers 9 6 shares By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns and Giants have wrapped their two blockbuster deals of the past week all into one, a league source told cleveland.com. Instead of separate trades that landed Odell Beckham Jr. and Olivier Vernon in Cleveland, the clubs have rolled it all into one big, monster deal that will be consummated Wednesday afternoon when the league year opens. The deal now consists of this: the Browns gets Beckham and Vernon, and the Giants get Zeitler, Jabrill Peppers, the No. 17 overall pick and the No. 95 overall (third round, from the Patriots trade for Danny Shelton). false Odell Beckham Jr. traded to the Browns for No. 17, third-round pick and Jabrill Peppers Beckham played with Jarvis Landry at LSU, and Browns receivers coach Adam Henry coached Beckham at LSU and with the Giants. Eliminated in the revision were the mid-round picks that were part of the Zeitler-Vernon trade. The Browns were set to send their No. 155 overall pick in the fifth round to the Giants for their No. 132 pick in the fourth round. The elimination of the mid-round picks was first reported by Art Stapleton of NorthJersey.com. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/03...under-swap.html
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What else did we give up for one dude?[/color] A 1st, 3rd, Peppers and we converted a 3rd into a 5th. OBJ has been oft-injured, has a diva outburst every other week, liked playing in NY, tried to kill Josh Norman on the field and we’ll probably have to extend/renegotiate the contact right away. I’m happy if this all works out, but I’m nervous. I don’t see this as a slam dunk move.
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I can remember when Baker wasn't even allowed to work with the ones and it was a Preseason game with the Giants.
OBJ didn't make his way to TT our starting QB but he went straight for Baker in warmups and they gave a big time hug to each other and did a lot of talking and laughing.
I remember this cause I'm like man Baker has that charisma and it looks to me OBJ is wanting to be with him...now that dream became a reality oh and Vers I hope you like this 6'7" kid we just added for that big WR at 230 he isn't a TE he is a WR
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no doubt Baker has a lot to do with OBJ even accepting/wanting the trade
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Great trade but there is still a small part of me that is going to miss Peppers.
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I'll miss Peppers too, but let's see what we replace him with soon
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NFL Trade Grades: Browns huge winners for acquiring Odell Beckham, Giants clear losers in an utter disaster With Odell Beckham, the Browns are the new favorites in the AFC North by Sean Wagner-McGough @seanjwagner 11 hrs ago • 5 min read It actually happened. On Tuesday night -- just three days after the Raiders traded for Antonio Brown -- the Browns pulled off a monumental trade with the Giants for Odell Beckham, as first reported by NFL Network's Mike Garafolo and confirmed by CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora. In return for one of the best receivers in football, the Giants acquired the Browns' first-round pick, second third-round pick, and 2017 first-round pick Jabrill Peppers, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. The trade actually happened. Beckham is on the Browns, and he immediately transforms them into the best team in the AFC North. The Giants are suddenly without their best player, and they didn't even get the two first-round picks that many believed would be a requirement in any trade involving Beckham. Obviously, the winners and losers from Tuesday's blockbuster won't be known for some time. We need to see how the Giants use those draft picks. The players drafted with those picks need to be given a chance to step foot on the field in a Giants uniform. We also need to see how Beckham meshes with Baker Mayfield in Cleveland in addition to considering his impact within the ... Oh, who are we kidding? Let's sort through the chaos and grade the trade right now, because as it stands, there's one very clear winner and one very clear loser. Yes, that could always change over time, but as of right now, give the Browns loads of credit for making the biggest move of the offseason and criticize the Giants for not getting as good of a haul that a player of Beckham's caliber should've fetched in the trade market. We begin with the Browns. Cleveland Browns: A Odell Beckham The Browns won this trade. They just acquired arguably the league's best receiver who is both 26 years old and under contract for five more seasons with an average annual base salary of roughly $14.5 million. Even if the Browns end up reworking Beckham's contract to give him more money, they just added arguably the league's best receiver, who is still in his prime, and they didn't even have to give up multiple first-round picks. Heck, they didn't even have to give up the first of their two third-round picks. Even after parting ways with two draft picks, they're still armed with eight picks in the upcoming draft, two of which are a second- and third-round pick. Here's what they're getting: Since Beckham entered the league in 2014, he ranks third in receiving yards per game with 92.8, slotting in behind Julio Jones and Antonio Brown. In that span, he also ranks third in touchdown catches with 44 even though he's missed 21 possible games. Put another way, DeAndre Hopkins ranks second with 45 touchdown catches, but he's played in 20 more games than Beckham in that span. Translation: Beckham is in the top tier of NFL receivers. That much is indisputable. He turns the Browns into the best team in the AFC North one year after they went 7-8-1 with their young nucleus, even after Hue Jackson actively sabotaged them during the first half the season. The Steelers just lost Antonio Brown. The Ravens lost C.J. Mosley and Eric Weddle. The Bengals are still the Bengals. The Browns added Odell Beckham to an offense that already has Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb, Jarvis Landry, Antonio Callaway, David Njoku, and Kareem Hunt -- not to mention a defense that ranked 12th in DVOA. This is good: According to SportsLine's Stephen Oh, the Browns' chance of winning the AFC North has risen to 50.5 percent with Beckham. Their projected number of wins has jumped to 10.1. That's a clear win. New York Giants: F First-round pick this year (No. 17 overall) Third-round pick this year (No. 95 overall) Jabrill Peppers Let's start with the obvious: The Giants just got significantly worse by parting ways with one of the league's best receivers. Again, that's undeniable. What's especially concerning about this trade from their perspective is that they didn't even get two first-round picks, which is what many assumed they'd get if they decided to trade Beckham. As NFL Network's Kimberly Jones said on Tuesday shortly before the trade, "Would two No. 1 picks do it? Perhaps, but there doesn't seem to be a team lining up with that kind of mega offer for Odell Beckham Jr." In the end, the Giants settled for the No. 17 pick, the No. 95 pick, and Peppers. Maybe they'll draft a great player with those picks. Given the draft is a crapshoot, it's more likely that they won't hit on both picks. It's even more unlikely that either of those picks will result in a player as impactful as Beckham. In Peppers, the Browns are getting a good, but not great young safety who will replace Landon Collins. He'll be a nice addition, but he's not magically transforming that Giants' defense into a top unit. The timing of the trade, which factors into their grade, is also puzzling. If the Giants were so eager to get rid of Beckham that they settled for the Browns' offer, why didn't they trade him a year ago before they handed him a five-year extension? Not only that, but according to Over The Cap, the Giants will take on $16 million in dead money too. That's a significant amount of money to be paying a player who doesn't play for your team anymore. This is not a list teams want to be on. To no one's surprise, the Steelers and Giants are both on it after dealing away their highly paid receivers. Even Giants general manager Dave Gettleman indicated two months ago that trading Beckham so soon after signing him to an extension wouldn't make much sense. The Giants are now committed to a full rebuild one year after they passed on drafting a potential franchise quarterback in order to take a running back with the second-overall pick. While Saquon Barkley has proven to be a tremendous talent, his awesome rookie season also proved that he alone can't turn the Giants into contenders. Considering the Giants are in the beginning stages of their rebuild -- Eli Manning is still their quarterback -- it's not at all unreasonable to suggest that by the time the Giants are ready to compete, Barkley will no longer be on his rookie deal. This is a disaster for the Giants. They traded away their best player in the prime of his career for a disappointing price less than a year after they gave him a huge contract. They're now beginning a rebuild one year after taking a running back over a quarterback with the No. 2 pick in the draft. It's almost like they've been operating without a clear plan or direction. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-t...utter-disaster/
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Well we got 50 mil more in cap space
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Or he could have been more honest and put in Zeitler.
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That writer is incorrect. Peppers was a first round pick. So, the Giants did get two firsts.
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Tulsa, I was pretty out front about my support for Peppers so I understand. He started to show his worth last year and took a lot of unfair criticism in stride during his rookie campaign. I think his career is ascending. That made him an attractive player to put into the trade since the G-men lost Collins.
You have to be willing to give something to gain something. I don't think the first and third round picks alone would have closed this deal. Being willing to move Peppers was the ingredient necessary to make the trade happen. I wish him well. We filled a bigger need by creating a smaller problem at the safety position. Dorsey probably has a solution for that worked out.
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I'm not going to be tempted to click on this and read the comments....I'm not going to be tempted to click on this and read the comments...I'm not going to be tempted to click on this and read the comments...
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I think a box safety is WAY more replaceable than a HOF talent WR ... so I keep reminding myself of that too
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j/c:
The Browns are getting a ton of love nationally, but some of our fans are seemingly opposed to this deal. Strange.
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The Browns are getting a ton of love nationally, but some of our fans are seemingly opposed to this deal. Strange. Very Strange
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Great trade but there is still a small part of me that is going to miss Peppers. yeah, the one play he made in his career. lol Peppers was improving, but lets be real, hes not even close to a pro bowl player.
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Peppers was improving, but lets be real, hes not even close to a pro bowl player.
So I payed the guy a parting compliment and you're saying I'm not being real? Seriously?
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Winning and doing so spectacularly which is a real possibility with the team being constructed by Dorsey; that will change the minds of those on the wrong side of history!
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