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I'm fine with Stanton because of his rapport with Baker, but I really would like to see the Browns draft a more long term BU to groom for the future. I think Minchew would be perfect, or McSorley would do well in that role.

Maybe we can trade our 7th to New York for Kyle Lauletta

Not really, but it would be humorous.

I agree. Stanton is the back-up this year. Maybe next.

I can see us drafting a QB in round 5-6 to groom for a year or two until Stanton retires.

Stanton has a winning record as a back-up. I don't know what the heck else some people want? Style points I guess.

Drew Stanton is a solid back-up.

I'd like to see Fitzmagic here. He already knows the offense and did really well in it. I'm not hearing about any other teams speaking to him yet.

Per NFL Network, Tyrod is going to back up Rivers in LA.

There are tons of things we don’t know, but Taylor is barely making more than Drew Stanton in 2019. I would have loved to have Taylor back on the above terms.

Yeah, I figured he'd get around 5 a year. I would have liked to keep him as well, but maybe he didn't want to stay

You guys go from starter to back-up mid season, it's probably best to move on.

It's always possible, but I doubt a mid-late round rookie, if even drafted would beat out Stanton.

AJ McCarron now available.

If Mayfield gets a concussion, or a thigh strain and can't go for a week or two, I guess we'd be okay with Stanton. But I'd feel a lot more confident if it was Fitz.

I agree Dave. I want someone better than Stanton, though I'm not sure that's likely

Well, if we're going "all in", it seems short-sighted to half-ass the backup QB position and, I might add, the kicker position. We should be looking to upgrade everything, IMO. We have the cap space to address contingencies, and we should - again, IMO.

j/c:

cfrs brought this up earlier, but would anyone be interested in Blake Bortles?

He is a good runner and did play in the AFC Championship game. He actually played very well in last year's playoffs.

He isn't very good, but he wouldn't be a bad backup, in my opinion.

I'm not sure who all is available ... or who Kitchens would think fits best with our plan

I like Fitz better than Bortles, but I like both of them better than Stanton. I'm just not sure Bortles has resigned himself to the fact that his future in the league is as a backup. In other words, he still thinks he's a starter.

You and bonefish are probably right. Just throwing a name out there to get back to football. I kinda lost my cool on another thread. LOL

I trust that we are still having a problem with the fax machine...

I would like to use one of our 3 5th round selections on a rookie QB #3.

Just to be clear, if Mayfield were to go down for an extended period of time, it probably wouldn't matter as much who the backup was. But if its a short-term injury, and we are a playoff contender, I want a guy who can win a game or two to keep us in contention until Baker comes back.

j/c

Bortles or Simien would fit well with Stanton at #3. I struggle with Fitz and then Stanton as the #3.

I guess I would concede that Fitz vs Bortles is debateable, but not Simien, IMO.

Has Stanton ever been on a good team? Just having one guy, even as good as Fitz or Megatron, does not outweigh a crap line or no running game.

I'll bet we can get him a whole lot cheaper than what Hue was willing to give up.

I would be ok w that. He would need to be willing to accept a backup role, not sure if that reality has sunk in.

Lol!

Tyrod Taylor was one of the best backups on the market and he got $6 million. I don't see how Bortles gets more than that.

I wouldn't mind Sam Bradford, Blake Bortles, Ryan Fitzpatrick, or Trevor Siemian.

I've said it a bunch of times. If Baker goes down long term, we are screwed. If he only misses a game or two then a below average backup can hold the fort for a couple games (especially with the weapons we have). If Drew Stanton plays, we lose. He's that bad.

11-6 as a starter.

A perfect example why won/loss record is a horrible way to judge a QBs talent.

He's a backup for a reason, yes. That's not very complicated.

But you said he can't win and I pointed out that, as a starter, he's won more than he's lost.

His team won more than they lost. Stanton was just along for the ride.

To further hammer home the point, here is a list of all Stanton's starts where his team won:

http://pfref.com/tiny/tMwd3

His team averaged 20 points per game in wins. The Detroit Lions were 25th in the NFL in points per game with 20.

His team's defense in those starts gave up an average of 12 points per game. 12! To put that into context, the great 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense gave up ten points per game.

So yes, if we are going to have an all-time great defense (we won't), start Drew Stanton. Just in case we don't have an all-time great defense, I would prefer to sign someone who can be at least competent at completing passes. That person is not Drew Stanton as he has only completed 52% of his passes when his team wins (which would be dead last in the NFL, among qualified passes, behind Josh Allen).

It will be a epic failure if we have this very talented team and our QB gets hurt and Drew Stanton is the guy that comes in to try and win games. It would be like giving a Ferrari to a person who can't reach the pedals of the car.

Yep.

Take a game away from either the win total or the loss total to make it a season, you have playoff caliber play.

What I saw of Stanton last preseason, against backups, he was downright horrible. Kizer or Kessler would be a major upgrade.

Sure he's a good mentor for Baker but we need to get one of those late-round prospects we can groom for a few years, let'em look good in some 4th-quarter mop-up duty, then get another one and trade the kid for some high picks to some poor schmucks who are desperate.

103 TD's, 75 INT's..

he's gonna want big $...

That's a combination I can't support.

I was just thinking about this today. Bortles makes a TON of sense if he can be had on a reasonable contract. He has started a lot of games and as you mentioned he has playoff experience.

I think people aren't thinking about a scenario where Baker has to miss extended time (4-6 games). If Stanton is that guy you probably miss the playoffs........Bortles can split those games and put you in a position to be where you want to be.

Backup QB matters a lot in this league, and I don't trust Stanton to win football games at this point.

ideally i would like fitz, but given his credentials i think his asking price would be too much. the more likely scenario has been brought up of roll with stanton, draft mcsorley

for the record id take bortles too hes trash as a full time starter but could win a few games god forbid baker goes down

I like the idea. Not that he's great but he has playoff experience which you can't say for most available guys.

Maybe if he goes a couple weeks with no acceptable offers, he would accept a backup situation.