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Backup Quarterback? #1609811 04/02/19 01:47 PM
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OP Chilly Rookie C Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 12	I've been thinking that we may need to upgrade at the backup position. The way we're built now as a possible playoff and division winner, I think we should address it. God forbid that Baker suffers an injury. But, right now its Drew Stanton and we should try to get someone who can play in what could be an elite offense. Is Stanton that guy? The only FA that has playoff and starting experience is Kapernick and he hasn't played in 2 seasons and would bring a lot of baggage. So is Stanton better than any FA currently available? What about McCown? I think he would be a huge mentor for Baker and could be proficient enough with the offensive weapons we have now.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609812 04/02/19 01:54 PM
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clwb419 Hall of Famer C Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,753 Likes: 11 PDX	I'm not trying to be snarky when I say this, but there's a thread on this from a month or so ago. https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1599358/the-backup-qb I'd be ok with bringing in McCown and having Stanton too. But, I think we need to draft a guy late that has potential - Minshew or Rypien maybe. I really liked Thorson until his injury 2 seasons ago - he never got back to his old self.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609813 04/02/19 01:56 PM
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Tyler_Derden Hall of Famer T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,458 Likes: 1 Here and There	If i'm not mistaken, I think Stanton is 10-6 as a back-up, or something like that.....good enough for me... I wish to wash my Irish wristwatch......

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609816 04/02/19 02:03 PM
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OP Chilly Rookie C Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 12	My concern is that we don't RG3 Baker! If something happens, he gets injured, were in a playoff position and he's rushed back and it destroys his future.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609823 04/02/19 02:13 PM
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Tulsa Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 16,195 Backnine	Thankfully he doesn't have those twiggy RG3 legs. #GMSTRONG

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609857 04/02/19 03:23 PM
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3rd_and_20 Legend Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,076 Likes: 186 Euclid, Ohio	Oops! Couldn't delete. Last edited by 3rd_and_20; 04/02/19 03:24 PM. Reason: Oops

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609867 04/02/19 03:35 PM
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DiamDawg Legend D Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 15,188 Likes: 13	Has Tyrod signed anywhere yet? ... if not, u never know ...

Re: Backup Quarterback? DiamDawg #1609869 04/02/19 03:38 PM
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Hammer Dawg Talker H Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,255 Likes: 102 Scituate, RI	Chargers

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609924 04/02/19 06:28 PM
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HotBYoungTurk Legend Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,849 Likes: 12 Atlanta, GA	I'm okay with just drafting a late round QB, preferably one that is somewhat mobile.

Re: Backup Quarterback? HotBYoungTurk #1609930 04/02/19 06:40 PM
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Hammer Dawg Talker H Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,255 Likes: 102 Scituate, RI	Gardner Minshew or Trace McSorley. tyvm.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Hammer #1609931 04/02/19 06:48 PM
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Dave Legend D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 13,205 Likes: 234 Cleveland	Originally Posted By: Hammer Gardner Minshew or Trace McSorley. tyvm. tyvm?

Re: Backup Quarterback? Dave #1609933 04/02/19 06:51 PM
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Tulsa Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 16,195 Backnine	Originally Posted By: Dave Originally Posted By: Hammer Gardner Minshew or Trace McSorley. tyvm. tyvm? Thank you very much? #GMSTRONG

Re: Backup Quarterback? Tulsa #1609938 04/02/19 07:09 PM
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Dave Legend D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 13,205 Likes: 234 Cleveland	Originally Posted By: Tulsa Originally Posted By: Dave Originally Posted By: Hammer Gardner Minshew or Trace McSorley. tyvm. tyvm? Thank you very much? OFFS! ... Oh for [BLEEP] sake! Thanks.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1609996 04/03/19 07:12 AM
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Dawgs4Life Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 72,847 Likes: 575 Edinboro, PA	McSorley would be a stylistic option IMO "First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."

Re: Backup Quarterback? Dave #1610025 04/03/19 08:34 AM
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eotab Legend E Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,475 Likes: 136 L.I., NY	lol welcome to my world! Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!

Re: Backup Quarterback? eotab #1610089 04/03/19 11:24 AM
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PastorMarc Legend P Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,341 Likes: 98	Originally Posted By: eotab lol welcome to my world! Last edited by PastorMarc; 04/03/19 11:25 AM. John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

Re: Backup Quarterback? Dawgs4Life #1610091 04/03/19 11:26 AM
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PastorMarc Legend P Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 15,341 Likes: 98	Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life McSorley would be a stylistic option IMO I would take McSorley in the 5th rd. if he is there ... John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610114 04/03/19 12:02 PM
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Bull_Dawg Hall of Famer Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 8,835 Likes: 400 Stark Co., Ohio	Thorson? Think he's finally back healthy like when he was talked about as a 1st rounder. No idea where his stock is now. You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns. Fiercely Independent.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610799 04/05/19 09:48 AM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	I feel much better with Garrett Gilbert as the backup instead of Drew Stanton.

Re: Backup Quarterback? cfrs15 #1610803 04/05/19 09:51 AM
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Milk Man Legend M Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 14,998 Likes: 1376	Garrett Gilbert brings the AAF championship (per Steve Spurrier) pedigree.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Milk Man #1610812 04/05/19 10:00 AM
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TrooperDawg Dawg Talker T Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,280 Likes: 32	Originally Posted By: Milk Man Garrett Gilbert brings the AAF championship (per Steve Spurrier) pedigree. More importantly, he was a Lake Travis H.S. superstar, like Baker. Lol.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610822 04/05/19 10:21 AM
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Dawgs4Life Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 72,847 Likes: 575 Edinboro, PA	Did he play at Texas Tech? "First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."

Re: Backup Quarterback? Dawgs4Life #1610824 04/05/19 10:26 AM
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Hammer Dawg Talker H Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,255 Likes: 102 Scituate, RI	UT

Re: Backup Quarterback? Dawgs4Life #1610828 04/05/19 10:28 AM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life Did he play at Texas Tech? Nope. Texas and SMU. This is the guy that came into the National Championship game when Colt McCoy got his shoulder smashed.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610855 04/05/19 11:08 AM
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Damanshot Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 42,527 Likes: 149 Aurora, Ohio	Has this been posted? We picked up Garrett and Burnett https://clutchpoints.com/browns-news-cleveland-to-sign-both-morgan-burnett-garrett-gilbert/ #GMSTRONG “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan "Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610918 04/05/19 12:41 PM
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Punchsmack Legend Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 13,882 ~30 Miles NW of Chicago, IL	Soooooo....he's a wildcat QB. Never throws. “...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”

Re: Backup Quarterback? Punchsmack #1610921 04/05/19 12:44 PM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	He led the AAF in passing, so he throws now.

Re: Backup Quarterback? cfrs15 #1610923 04/05/19 12:45 PM
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Punchsmack Legend Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 13,882 ~30 Miles NW of Chicago, IL	Originally Posted By: cfrs15 He led the AAF in passing, so he throws now. Yeah, I forgot to indicate I was referring to the highlights I linked. I didn't see a passing play. “...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”

Re: Backup Quarterback? cfrs15 #1610952 04/05/19 01:34 PM
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kwhip Dawg Talker K Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,805 Likes: 1	Originally Posted By: cfrs15 I feel much better with Garrett Gilbert as the backup instead of Drew Stanton. Lol. Why? Is his PFF high? Sparqs high?

Re: Backup Quarterback? kwhip #1610956 04/05/19 01:36 PM
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Damanshot Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 42,527 Likes: 149 Aurora, Ohio	Probably because of his AFF results. They were pretty good. #GMSTRONG “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan "Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot

Re: Backup Quarterback? Damanshot #1610959 04/05/19 01:42 PM
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YTownBrownsFan Legend Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 50,157 Likes: 399 YTown, Ohio	Originally Posted By: Damanshot Probably because of his AFF results. They were pretty good. Don't you want to see him against NFL players before you decide? Gilbert showed some stuff in the AAF, but he definitely needs to speed up his processing. Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God. John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.

Re: Backup Quarterback? kwhip #1610960 04/05/19 01:46 PM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	Originally Posted By: kwhip Originally Posted By: cfrs15 I feel much better with Garrett Gilbert as the backup instead of Drew Stanton. Lol. Why? Is his PFF high? Sparqs high? Because basically anyone is better than Drew Stanton.

Re: Backup Quarterback? kwhip #1610963 04/05/19 01:53 PM
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CapCity Dawg Hall of Famer Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,608 Likes: 89 Powell, OH	Originally Posted By: kwhip Originally Posted By: cfrs15 I feel much better with Garrett Gilbert as the backup instead of Drew Stanton. Lol. Why? Is his PFF high? Sparqs high? It's more about how he sees Stanton. How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships? #gmstrong

Re: Backup Quarterback? CapCity Dawg #1610965 04/05/19 01:55 PM
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PitDAWG Legend P Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 71,543 Likes: 1493 Smyrna, TN.	I'm not so sure about that. All teams need extra arms in camp and if it turns into something more, then fine. Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach. #gmstrong

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610972 04/05/19 02:06 PM
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BpG Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,864 Likes: 26 Columbus, Ohio	Drew Stanton is a below average QB.....like almost every backup QB in the league. The league only has like 15-25 viable starting QB's, so just about every backup is going to be not good.

Re: Backup Quarterback? BpG #1610973 04/05/19 02:08 PM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	Originally Posted By: BpG Drew Stanton is a below average QB.....like almost every backup QB in the league. The league only has like 15-25 viable starting QB's, so just about every backup is going to be not good. Being not good and being horrible are not the same thing. Blaine Gabbert is not good, Drew Stanton is horrible.

Re: Backup Quarterback? Chilly #1610975 04/05/19 02:09 PM
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BpG Hall of Famer Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,864 Likes: 26 Columbus, Ohio	He is likely still on the roster because of his ties with with Freddie from his time in AZ

Re: Backup Quarterback? BpG #1610980 04/05/19 02:12 PM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	Originally Posted By: BpG He is likely still on the roster because of his ties with with Freddie from his time in AZ He's like Josh McCown, but worse on the field.

Re: Backup Quarterback? cfrs15 #1610998 04/05/19 02:36 PM
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PitDAWG Legend P Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 71,543 Likes: 1493 Smyrna, TN.	Yet he's 11-6 as a starter. Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach. #gmstrong

Re: Backup Quarterback? PitDAWG #1611004 04/05/19 02:43 PM
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cfrs15 Legend C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 42,413 Likes: 501 Monrovia, Ca	Originally Posted By: PitDAWG Yet he's 11-6 as a starter. I know, crazy right. It's almost like won/loss record is a horrible way to evaluate QBs?!?!? From a post I made several weeks ago: Quote: http://pfref.com/tiny/tMwd3 His team averaged 20 points per game in wins. The Detroit Lions were 25th in the NFL in 2018 points per game with 20. His team's defense in those starts gave up an average of 12 points per game. 12! To put that into context, the great 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense gave up ten points per game. So yes, if we are going to have an all-time great defense (we won't), start Drew Stanton. Just in case we don't have an all-time great defense, I would prefer to sign someone who can be at least competent at completing passes. That person is not Drew Stanton as he has only completed 52% of his passes when his team wins (which would be dead last in the NFL, among qualified passes, behind Josh Allen).

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