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Weren't the Giants that killed NE perfect season in the Super Bowl one of those teams? If they weren't they should have been, that line was scary good.

Would be interesting trivia to name the other 4 teams.

Joe Thomas might be a world class podcaster and a new NFL commentator, but "Joe Thomas confidently said..." can only bring me dread after his tenure here. Obviously this doesn't have anything to do with him, but previous regimes and I don't just mean tweedle dee and tweedle dumb 4.0

I'm guessing ...

1971 Minnesota Vikings: Carl Eller, Gary Larsen, Jim Marshall, Alan Page
1985 Chicago Bears: Richard Dent, Dan Hampton, Steve McMichael, William Perry
1976 Pittsburgh Steelers: "Mean" Joe Greene, L.C. Greenwood, Ernie Holmes, Dwight White
1991 Philadelphia Eagles: Jerome Brown, Mike Pitts, Clyde Simmons, Reggie White

Good guess ...

The rams had a line back in the day ... the fearsome foresome ...

Deacon Jones .... Merlin Olsen ... Rosey Greer .... ?

Thats one of the two that popped into my head ... the purple people eaters witch is one u covered was the other ....

Excellent guess.

Lamar Lundy

so JT was absolutely and completely wrong...none of those teams even went to the superbowl let alone win except the 74 team

surprised we haven't heard anything. Not sure if that's good or bad

Gotta love that patented Joe Thomas confidence.

eesh, I was way off!

This was expected.

It is wise to make more than one visit.

Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went great and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went great and they tried to sign him before he left town today, but he’ll honor a commitment to visit the Ravens on Tuesday, a league source said.

Talks between the Browns and McCoy’s agent, Ben Dogra, continue, and McCoy could end up signing with the Browns next week depending on how his trip to Baltimore goes.

McCoy will return to Florida to spend Memorial Day weekend with his family before heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that, but the Browns and Ravens are currently the frontrunners.


Read more at:

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/05...s-continue.html

Just because we have the cap room, does not necesarily mean we should spend it. I’d only sign him on the cheap, in a limited role.

We will have players to sign in coming years. Correct me if I’m wrong, but one of the reasons JD is no longer in KC, is is due to cap management?

If he signs a short term deal (two years or less) then his salary will have little to do with being able to sign guys in the future.

Dorsey left Kansas City in a major cap bind, yes.

Allbright is correct. It is his best course.

Yeah, there was no way in hell he was signing today. Unless we gave him such a crazy offer he wouldn't even look at other teams. And if we were to give him a crazy offer, we would've just traded for him. I do think that the longer his free agency goes on, the worse our chances get. If he's not signed in 1.5-2 weeks, I just don't see him signing with us.

Like I said, being the last meeting is the best meeting.


That said, we can still be the last meeting.

On to Baltimore for him ... we'll see how he likes it there (and their offer)

I do worry about John's spending habits. All of this is great but I would rather be in position a few years down the road to keep Baker and Myles.


I am not saying we won't be able to do that, I am just hoping someone is keeping a eye on the contract logistics.

Agents have a way of sharing what offer is on the table. It's always easy to offer more money, or more benefits, or whatever.

If we 100% want to sign him, the best meeting to be would be last. But I like being first, especially with Dorsey's straight shooting style. I think this allows us to set the market, remain firm in our offer, and not rely too much on McCoy, who at least I view as a luxury signing. I think that Larry O provides us more than enough as a contingency plan at the spot and will serve more than capable.

As long as most of the guaranteed money is off the books after 2020 we should be fine.

I do think there could be players released due to cap pressure that would upgrade our D-line depth. McCoy is not absolutely the only option but I do think he's the best option

Does anyone know, what happens when the CBA runs out after the 2020 season? Does everyone's rollover cap go away?

Maybe that is playing into Dorsey's plan? Might as well use up all the rollover cap we have this year and next before we lose it...I don't know, just something that I was thinking about.

No

The most important meeting is the first, then you make it the only meeting, thereby making it the last. If you do not close the deal during the first meeting, the chances of making making the deal go wayyyyyy down. Get the deal while you got them in house, once they are out the door, you are out of luck.

This is years of sales experience talking. If they go someplace else, after seeing what you have to offer, then you have a 10% chance of winning the sale. We let him out the door.. He's more than likely a Raven now.

This is the kind of post I truly enjoy reading.
Thanks.

I hope we sign him but I hope even more he doesn't go to the Ravens. That D is tough enough as is. He'd be good in a rotation. Keep everyone as fresh as possible. But if he goes elsewhere we will still have a very good line. If not McCoy then hopefully a really good veteran shakes loose in camp. There were many young D linemen taken in the draft, so hopefully, that will help us down the road... We shall see. I always liked the teams that had devastating D lines. The Fearsome Foursome, the Purple People Eaters, Doomsday... etc. Not that the NFL allows that kind of intimidation anymore, but it would be nice to see us get some great line play. At least to the extent that it's permitted in this watered-down NFL.

What's his history with cap space on previous teams?

Anybody know?

I would 100% agree with you if we were playing baseball instead of football. Instead we have to keep in mind the cap which will affect our ability to keep our other players long term. If he was wanted that badly, then we'd have simply traded for him instead of negotiating over 5 mil.

Dorsey’s cap record with the Chiefs is not great but that’s not why he was fired. It was more of a personality conflict with Andy Reid.

Agreed. I believe our chances of signing him are remote. I hope I'm wrong...

Dang ... oh well ... guess the stars just weren’t aligned right and if they don’t align on the first date u usually don’t get a 2nd ...

I’ve got to question Mr. McCoy’s intelligence or his opinion of just how good he is ...

No one with a brain can’t see how much more talented we are than them and have a way way way better shot at winning then they do ... so if he really cares about winning why there? ... i could see NE or KC or SD or Indi or the Jags ...

I believe he has a brain so therefore he must think he’s good enough to close the talent gap between the teams all by his bad self ... ... ain’t no one that good ....

Or taking Purp’s theory to the next level he’s using the weekend to see if we will meet the contract he wants over the 3 day weekend to keep him from going to see the rats ...

IF he makes to B-more we need to hope he’s the rare exception to this rule ...