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Originally Posted By: Swish
ive seen plenty moral equivalency/both sides arguments from the centrist/moderates/flip floppers, whatever term they wish to be described as.




Agreed, and I think it's more of the "enlightened centrist" who is OK with Trump using racist rhetoric because they find some false equivalency with the target of his attacks, and then say "see, both sides are just as racist/bad!" It's just a weasel's way of making Trump seem better.

I separate the enlightened centrist from someone who is usually on one side or another but dabbles in walking across the aisle wink

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Enlightened centrist might be an accurate description.

Basically it’s the “woke” people who need to take they asses back to sleep.


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i mean we got people who SERIOUSLY think we're all gonna "Come together" and we "heal the divide" and all this other hippy crap with a racist actively sitting in the oval.

yea, we're all gonna come together while he's in office. sure. hows that "understanding" BS working out so far...


No we will never come together with him in office. However we were never going to come together no matter who was in office. There are still way to many folks on all sides, black/white/brown/yellow/red and any other color folks come in that want to drive a wedge between each other. I have got laughed at/ slandered/ picked on/ and disagreed with for saying until everybody stops worrying about/pointing out/and dwelling on the difference in skin color then the racist problem will never ever be solved.

WHY.... because y'all just keep throwing gasoline on the fire. I am willing to say most (OH lord not all far from it) just keep poking the bear instead of loving each other. I pray that I live long enough to see the day that none of you even notice or care about skin color. It's just stupid and disgusting from all sides. frown


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BTW Bro that was not directed at you. I understand why you get upset about the subject and I agree with you about it half the time.


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The last few weeks, people telling me that we need to come together and stop the divide have fallen on deaf ears.

People as divided as they are in this country come together and break the divide for one of two reasons..

1. Positive leadership that sets an example and gives the people a reason to come together.
2. Negative leadership that gets so bad the people come together to overthrow that leadership.

Neither of those are going to happen under Trump.

Well, there is a 3rd but I'm certainly not hoping for it... and that's a disaster (natural or man-made) so horrific that people come together out of necessity...


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Enlightened centrist might be an accurate description.

Basically it’s the “woke” people who need to take they asses back to sleep.


The 'woke' people usually refers to the far left.

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i mean we got people who SERIOUSLY think we're all gonna "Come together" and we "heal the divide" and all this other hippy crap with a racist actively sitting in the oval.

yea, we're all gonna come together while he's in office. sure. hows that "understanding" BS working out so far...


No we will never come together with him in office. However we were never going to come together no matter who was in office. There are still way to many folks on all sides, black/white/brown/yellow/red and any other color folks come in that want to drive a wedge between each other. I have got laughed at/ slandered/ picked on/ and disagreed with for saying until everybody stops worrying about/pointing out/and dwelling on the difference in skin color then the racist problem will never ever be solved.

WHY.... because y'all just keep throwing gasoline on the fire. I am willing to say most (OH lord not all far from it) just keep poking the bear instead of loving each other. I pray that I live long enough to see the day that none of you even notice or care about skin color. It's just stupid and disgusting from all sides. frown


For a month or so right after 9/11 American's all came together, then we started profiling Muslim Americans... rolleyes

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In the trump era...this is all totally acceptable by the deplorable people who allow trump to get away with it. The GOP sheep. Enjoy.


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You are so full of crap. Tell me who is okay w/Trump's racist comments that isn't a far-right person. Name those people w/your big freaking mouth. If you can't, shut your damn mouth!

I'm so sick of people like you making up profiles for other people that are false.

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you're one of the main ones im talking about.

always with this "both sides" BS. always trying to control the narrative when in reality you have a whole lot of nothing to say. you don't make any post that remotely furthers the conversation. just a bunch of "both sides" and " we need to come together and understand" crapfest nonsense.

you lame ass centrist/moderates seem to want to do everything but take a position. its easier to talk to MAGA hatters because atleast they're actually capable of making a decision/choice. meanwhile, we're still waiting since 1776 for you moderates to do anything useful.


edit: my bad. not moderate. you don't deserve that descriptor.

enlightened centrist. there. thats better.

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I disagree w/you on that I don't have anything to say. I have a lot to say and just because my rhetoric is not based in hate, resentment, and the world owes me something doesn't mean it's not important.

Guys like you don't like guys like me because I try and find solutions to problems and your hateful ass loves to assign blame.

So Swish, kiss my ass!

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You just hate that the moderates are going to determine the election.

LOL

Because we, by far, outnumber the extremeists.

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but you dont find solutions though lol.

thats whats funny about the whole thing. you dont do much of anything. you just whine about both sides the whole time, while the opposing sides do the debating.


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You just hate that the moderates are going to determine the election.

LOL

Because we, by far, outnumber the extremeists.


havent such much proof of that at all. lol but ok


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I don't pretend to know all the answers, but at least I try and make things better. That is very different from hateful souls like you and some others on this board.

You can call me all the freaking names you want, but I'm proud of my character and you can never take that away from me w/your insults.

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ok, but you're still pretty useless.


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You just hate that the moderates are going to determine the election.

LOL

Because we, by far, outnumber the extremeists.


havent such much proof of that at all. lol but ok



Yeah, you also thought Hillary was gonna win... because Polls..

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well the polls were right, she won the popular vote. polls dont account for electoral college much.

we shall see though.


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well the polls were right, she won the popular vote. polls dont account for electoral college much.

we shall see though.


The state of California cant elect a President. Sorry honey.

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But back to the discussion. It looks like that 'scream racist at them, and we'll win' shield got a lot smaller today. That's what happens when you use the same gag for everything.


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I'm mad at Swish and his big mouth, but what Trump said was racist. There is no debating that.

One more time...........he tells American citizens of color to go back to where they came from. That's racist as can be. Stop defending him. You lose credibility when you do so, just like Swish and others do when they hate everyone w/an open mind.

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lol @ thinking fence riding = having an open mind.


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I'm mad at Swish and his big mouth, but what Trump said was racist. There is no debating that.

One more time...........he tells American citizens of color to go back to where they came from. That's racist as can be. Stop defending him. You lose credibility when you do so, just like Swish and others do when they hate everyone w/an open mind.


Oh please. It's not like white people came from the Americas. Did you guys forget that? It's been said throughout the history of this country to those that hate it here.


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I don't pretend to know all the answers, but at least I try and make things better. That is very different from hateful souls like you and some others on this board.

You can call me all the freaking names you want, but I'm proud of my character and you can never take that away from me w/your insults.


Are you sure you're proud or do we all need to come together to help you decide? poke

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Originally Posted By: Swish
lol @ thinking fence riding = having an open mind.


I don't ride no fence, Swish.

Allow me to demonstrate. I think loud-mouth, hateful, one-sided, extremists like you and many others who pollute this forum are harmful to America's way of life.

That's my side of the fence, Mouth!

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I'm mad at Swish and his big mouth, but what Trump said was racist. There is no debating that.

One more time...........he tells American citizens of color to go back to where they came from. That's racist as can be. Stop defending him. You lose credibility when you do so, just like Swish and others do when they hate everyone w/an open mind.


Oh please. It's not like white people came from the Americas. Did you guys forget that? It's been said throughout the history of this country to those that hate it here.


I think the fascist should go back the 1940 Germany.

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I'm mad at Swish and his big mouth, but what Trump said was racist. There is no debating that.

One more time...........he tells American citizens of color to go back to where they came from. That's racist as can be. Stop defending him. You lose credibility when you do so, just like Swish and others do when they hate everyone w/an open mind.


Oh please. It's not like white people came from the Americas. Did you guys forget that? It's been said throughout the history of this country to those that hate it here.


What? I do not think you are ignorant, but please, don't make such a statement and not expect repercussions.

The whites are the dominant race in this country. We have the most wealth, numbers, and power. Telling American citizens of color to go back to where they came from is racist.

You would be better served to just freaking admit it. Denying it makes you look like a racist and a one-sided extremist.

Btw.........I think we all know that you are one-sided and lacking an open mind on this subject.

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lol @ thinking fence riding = having an open mind.


I don't ride no fence, Swish.

Allow me to demonstrate. I think loud-mouth, hateful, one-sided, extremists like you and many others who pollute this forum are harmful to America's way of life.

That's my side of the fence, Mouth!


Wait... what? You picked a side!

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lmfao my bro OCD!


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refs swept all the jabs out... But I wanted you to watch the video from the page you linked. It describes the far right political mind perfectly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAoFPIHBu6U

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Um, no... its the alt left extremists "The world owes me a living and free things" because they cant quite elevate out of basic mode.

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Um, no... its the alt left extremists "The world owes me a living and free things" because they cant quite elevate out of basic mode.


This is interesting.

As a middle class dude who has hung w/both rich and poor folks, I can say that there are two types of people [Yeah Clem, I am labeling...LOL] that annoy the crap out of me.

1. The wealthy who think they are entitled to special privileges due to their birth status. They look down at other folks and believe the world owes them something.

2. The poor who choose to not work for a living and instead walk around w/their hand out. As if, just because they were born and have faced hardships, the rest of us owe them something.

I got news from the middle class. [No fence here, Swish.] Both sides suck. We don't either of you squat. Pull your own damn weight and stop breaking our freaking backs.

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Trump slams congresswomen; crowd roars, 'Send her back!'

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rally-supporters-n-carolina-213047380.html

I see the MAGA hatters are cosplaying 1930’s Germany. My wife said trumps rhetoric is exactly how Hitler and Mussolini gained support back in those days.

Hyper nationalism mixed with authoritarian power and intolerance for “the others”.

History loves repeating itself.


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I see the MAGA hatters are cosplaying 1930’s Germany. My wife said trumps rhetoric is exactly how Hitler and Mussolini gained support back in those days.


Damn bro..............how old is your wife?

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And in her country, they dont sugar coat their history. They make it clear from the jump that what happened was racist and one of those worst things that ever happened in the world, never mind their country.

They don’t claim to honor their “heritage”, or make excuses for why they got played by Hitler. They admit to what happened and take the steps needed to not ever repeat that mess again.

Meanwhile in the “slaves were well fed” country....


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But, by your own admission, you are not middle class. Due to your Hispanic wife, that you like to brag about.

How many homes do you own again?

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Oh, you made it sound like she was alive during that time. My bad.

I will tell you this though, bro. I have a German neighbor. He is the most racist dude I have ever known. When he gets mad, he screams out F.......... N............. I know many Germans and they tend to be far more racist than other folks.

Screw the Germans. They stood by while an entire race was led to slaughter. And that isn't even factoring in the slaying of homosexuals and blacks.

I can tell you this w/certainty, Swish. No way in the freaking world would I stand by for such actions. I would have helped the Jews, just as I would have been part of the Underground Railroad here in the States.

I don't wanna hear about the damn Germans. They are the most racist group of folks who ever walked the face of the Earth.

And to expound..............they lived freely in the USA in WWII while the Japanese were put in camps. That's racism, bro.

I wanna look for solutions, but you if you wanna keep throwing stones, I have boulders that I can throw back.

Is that off the fence enough for you, bro?

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But, by your own admission, you are not middle class. Due to your Hispanic wife, that you like to brag about.

How many homes do you own again?


I want everyone to look at that closely. I have no comment. Just look at it and judge for yourselves.

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