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Fun is good.

I'm just thankful it wasn't OBJ, Landry, or Hunt. It would be a bad thing then.

I do hope Baker has a grip on things. He was arrested for public intoxication. Looked drunk at the Derby. It's all good if has a handle on it. The chugging seems a little much, though.

It's crazy that Baker and Gronk can get away with things that some others of a darker complexion might not be able. Imagine if Cam Newton did something like this?

(Kareem Hunt does bring a whole different set of issues to the table though.)

Gronk is a great example. He is just having "fun." Meanwhile, Zeke is a thug. Baker is not a cookie cutter qb, but OBJ is a diva.

Race matters as to how people are judged in the public eye.

Anybody of any race, color or creed does that at a hometown sporting event and they get nothing but cheers. Don't try to make it something it's not!

I don't care about it at all but the national conversation is what we are talking about.

Don't tell me what to do. I did not break a board rule. I expressed my opinion and I could care less if it upset you or not.

You provided nothing but one article that showed a coach was butthurt and said "Ask blah, blah about Baker's dad". I could care less what you say about Baker, everybody loves him and you walk around with a stick up your ___ with everything he does or says.

And I didn't say you lied - I asked for a link... and you've been crying about it ever since lmao.

No, I provided quotes from three separate articles.

No. You didn't. You provided links to two articles that said the exact same thing. The exact thing that I referenced as "the only thing I could find" before you went off your rocker and accused me of calling you a liar.

Do us all a favor and grow up a bit.

Here's where the foray starts if anyone wants to verify the disillusion:
https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1632935/re-vets-talk-to-baker#Post1632935

Again, this is not true. Hell, there is an actual quote from Baker's father in there. That isn't Patterson talking. It's Baker's dad.

Fate, you cannot escape left wing claptrap even on a browns football board.

What happened to the days of Fuzzy Thurston !?

Fuzzy claimed he drank 10 vodkas to stay warm during the "Ice Bowl" game...

and he never got fined .. disciplined .. harassed .. or was told he was a bad person as a result.

I'm super impressed with how he BIT the beer and caused the puncture to enable himself to shotgun it. I've probably watched that bit alone 30 times.

Yeah, and ME.

I just didn't argue as much about it though

I think Freddie was impressed as well.

I was all in on Baker - there was a poll done on who wanted which QB and there was more than you'd think picking Baker. Maybe 12 total? I'd have been ok with Darnold, I wanted nothing to do with Rosen, Allen or Lamar.

That's pretty decent coverage by the CB. Nice throw, nice catch.

I used to be impressed with things like that when I was a kid too.

J/c

Looking at that clip of the TD to OBJ .. nice pump by Baker to wait for him to come open. You can get a feel for just how hard it is for Baker given his size haha

When you were a kid they didn't have those soft aluminum cans.

Do you think it's hard for him? Is anyone concerned about his height? I do wonder how he sees sometimes back there.

I'd like to see him learn to play on his tip toes similar to Brees.

I was on Baker. Maybe not in the early period as I was still looking. But 6-7 weeks before the draft I knew he was the only QB we needed to draft. I came to the conclusion that if he was a inch or two taller, it wouldn't even be close.

Don't be mad because you don't have teeth.

I recall the poll about whom we wanted to draft with the #1 pick. I don't think there were more than 5 who chose Baker. But I could be wrong. I was also surprised at how many wanted Barkley.

This poll was for QBs:

I wanted Baker and Loved the pick. Even said so in the draft thread. I’m not a guy that gets on here and argues opinions. At the end of the day I like how accurate of a passer Baker was and he showed he was a winner. I didn’t see a winner in Rosen, plus his concussion history. Darnold reminded me of Kizer in college, drives down the field only to turn it over. A RB at #1 when you are devoid of a franchise QB was not a smart move IMO. Said all along that QB at 1, BPA at 4.

Happy with the direction of the franchise at this moment in time.

I have a kid that's nearly Baker's age if that's what you mean? Unfortunately he doesn't have either of Baker's skill sets.

j/c: This is not meant for the dude I am responding to at all.

It's pretty amazing how many folks are patting themselves on the back about Baker and chastising folks who didn't like him before the draft..............but completely ignore all the previous evaluations where they were wrong and someone else was right. In fact, I remember being told that it wasn't right to bring up who was right. LOL

More hypocritical BS.

For whatever it's worth .... I wanted Darnold. I thought that Baker would be a competent QB, but nothing spectacular.

I was rather .... irritated ..... when we made our 1st pick.

I am glad to be wrong.

I wanted Rosen. Glad we took baker.

I think the notion of Baker being a winner is a little over the top. What did he win in college? I saw him not deliver against UGA. Played his worst when it mattered most.

I think Baker is the type of QB that will absolutely eviscerate bad teams. He's going to hold his own against mid tier teams. And until he proves otherwise he's going to struggle to deliver wins against top tier teams. I need to see him deliver a game winning drive against a top tier team when it matters most to change this opinion.

Before everyone comes after me...I cannot stress enough how happy I am that Baker is the QB of the Browns. But I am just trying to be objective here. This is what I saw the little I watched of him in college and last year. It's not a bash. I am a Browns fan first and foremost and want the Browns to win. I hope he's the guy to do that for the Browns for years. I would bet that he is. But I want to see some signature wins when the stakes are the highest.

I would not list that as one of my concerns. He has such bravado and belief in himself, that I believe he will be good in the big moments.

I have seen him make plays in big moments.

I have questions about the dude, but most of those are due to his character. As of right now, I think he will be good in the clutch.