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Our QB is broken. He is bailing out of clean pockets.

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We need more run-pass option offense.

Good game by Wilks and the defense.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
We need more run-pass option offense.

Good game by Wilks and the defense.


Eric Murray was really good.

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The timeout on 4th down was stupid. We’d still have a shot with three timeouts.


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What happened to all the creative plays from last year?


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A respectable loss.

This team has come a long way even with the injuries.

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Why are we running plays from the shotgun with an empty backfield on 1st and goal from the 5?


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We dont have the offensive line to run the offense we want to. Dorsey's fatal flaw was while he was out getting all these big names he forgot about the offensive line


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our defense played their asses off.

stopped the run. got 3 turnovers. they went out there and fought.

our highly paid WR duo combined for NINE FREAKING CATCHES, at no fault of their own.

Baker was bailing out of clean pockets. he straight up ran into a sack by clay matthews. he held the ball forever, and constantly rolled to his right.

i dont want to hear crap about our OL. they consistently gave baker time to throw the entire night. they opened good holes for Chubb, who had a good game.

i understand this is game 3. but lets be clear here: the ONLY reason this game was close was because of our defense. our offense completely stunk it up, and that absolutely starts with baker mayfield.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Why are we running plays from the shotgun with an empty backfield on 1st and goal from the 5?


That is a great question. Horrible play calling.

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The gameday thread was entertaining. Freddy sucks, draft a qb next year. We lost to the NFC champs in a nailbiter with our entire defensive secondary missing. You guys are hilarous.

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UUUUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!
Penalties, Penalties, Penalties. Poor clock management at end of game. Pass, pass, pass, instead of a Chubb run. Two timeouts that they didn't use. Oh the mistakes of a rookie HC. FRUSTRATING!!!

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Poor play calling. Who runs a draw on fourth and nine? Why didn't we run the ball at the end?

It was first and goal and we just kept throwing it.


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We played an elite team tonight and had a good showing. thumbsup

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Our QB is broken. He is bailing out of clean pockets.


I think he is frustrated. Defenses know he likes to throw downfield, so they are taking it away from him. The problem is Monken's offense has no sense of balance to it, so we just keep trying to throw downfield, even when it is not there.

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I’m so sick of losing.

If we tried and just got beat id be fine but we just called such bonehead plays and Baker pooped the bed.

Before the game I thought I’d be happy with it being this close but we Browns’d it so hard.

I just need some relief from this bonehead losing.

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our defense played their asses off.

stopped the run. got 3 turnovers. they went out there and fought.

our highly paid WR duo combined for NINE FREAKING CATCHES, at no fault of their own.

Baker was bailing out of clean pockets. he straight up ran into a sack by clay matthews. he held the ball forever, and constantly rolled to his right.

i dont want to hear crap about our OL. they consistently gave baker time to throw the entire night. they opened good holes for Chubb, who had a good game.

i understand this is game 3. but lets be clear here: the ONLY reason this game was close was because of our defense. our offense completely stunk it up, and that absolutely starts with baker mayfield.


Well stated, and agreed

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We played an elite team tonight and had a good showing. thumbsup


What game were you watching?

Our offense STUNK OUT LOUD.

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Baker was under center about 5 or 6 times all game. If there was any doubt before there isn't now. We are running the full-on air-raid offense. Shotgun every down, run occasionally and never consistently and throw throw throw. Chubb isn't going to get anywhere near 1000 yards. Baker will set a Brown's record for pass attempts if he survives which is doubtful. We might as well let the OC call the plays. It's his offense. This is NOTHING like what we ran last season. There is no balance at all. We are completely pass-happy.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We played an elite team tonight and had a good showing. thumbsup


I agree, but the moral victory standings do not count.

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Give Baker a bunch of scrubs so he has to actually figure out how to win.

Newsflash Baker, OBJ deep passes aren’t a real life cheat code. Get back to how you read it last year.

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yall talking about the rams, who looked completely beatable today.

make no mistake, we have been making the same mistakes since week 1. there has been absolutely NO improvement on the offensive side of the ball.

none.

3 weeks straight of trash execution.


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Baker looks more like a rookie than he did last year


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Defense played lights out

Chubb needs more Carries

Playcalling was iffy at times especially with 1st and Goal at the end

We need to get healthy


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We don’t have a qb yet. The one from last year feels like forever ago. People blaming the oline are foolish. Baker is the issue. The last play

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Originally Posted By: Jester
Why are we running plays from the shotgun with an empty backfield on 1st and goal from the 5?


I'd like an answer to that one.


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So does the league know Baker and his tendencies and are forcing him to take, change and adjust reads...or is it our system? Just asking, because he looks horrid out there.

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Defense played well.. offense had one drive...


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Baker was under center about 5 or 6 times all game. If there was any doubt before there isn't now. We are running the full-on air-raid offense. Shotgun every down, run occasionally and never consistently and throw throw throw. Chubb isn't going to get anywhere near 1000 yards. Baker will set a Brown's record for pass attempts if he survives which is doubtful. We might as well let the OC call the plays. It's his offense. This is NOTHING like what we ran last season. There is no balance at all. We are completely pass-happy.


Agreed. Dunno why though. We had so much success with last years O. Baker seems so uncomfortable in this O. I hope Kitchens takes the reigns back soon. Otherwise why did we hire him?

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Young QB struggling, Rookie HC out of his depth, Shaky at best Oline, Overhyped Offseason, and Fans that expect to lose.


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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
Originally Posted By: Jester
Why are we running plays from the shotgun with an empty backfield on 1st and goal from the 5?


I'd like an answer to that one.


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Better game than the Jets even though we lost at home compared
to winning on the road. We have a lot of injuries and were playing a good team as opposed to last week.

Offensive line is going to be a major problem this entire season, unfortunately. Will be a problem for the entire offensive system. Kills ability to run and is messing up Baker.

Defensive was a nice surprise tonight. I was concerned it would be horrible. They definitely gave enough for the team to win.

Penalties continue to be awful.

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The defense played really well, especially considering our entire starting secondary was out.

I am not happy with the scheme, and pass blocking.

If anyone would have told me, after the injury list was released, that we would lose this game by 7, with a chance to tie it at the very end, I would have told you that you were nuts.

It was a tough game, and we came up short. It happens.

We do need to fix some things on offense. It looks like we decided to ignore all of the things we did well in the passing game last year. We ran RPO and did well, then abandoned it. Freddie needs to get on top of that.


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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
We played an elite team tonight and had a good showing. thumbsup


I agree, but the moral victory standings do not count.


This early in the season they most certainly do.

Browns showed tonight they are ready for prime time, with a stitched up secondary no less.

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We can beat Baltimore.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
We can beat Baltimore.


not with this offense.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
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We can beat Baltimore.


not with this offense.


We may be a team that plays better on the road.

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We had the chance to share the Conference lead with the Ravens and blew it.

Whoever's offense this is, need a reality check. Get back to what we were doing well last year. Baker is not the same whatsoever. Way, way, way too much shotgun.


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From deep in our own end on third down, a camera angle showed us running three guys deep, not even looking back.


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We can beat Baltimore.


not with this offense.


We may be a team that plays better on the road.


even if thats true, thats sad.


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