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You know my love will Not Fade Away.........


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Just speculation...

Seems Myles was frustrated by not bringing down Rudolph multiple times during the game...

And somehow it all got to his head...

And I cant blame Pouncey really...hes just defending his QB...the same I would expect our lineman to do if roles were flipped.

Just going to suck losing our best dlineman... specially when we are trying to turn the corner on this rough season.

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I agree with Baker.

Horrible feeling and I think it is a referendum on Kitchen's lack of discipline.

Unforgivable.

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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
Rudolph wasn't even hurt, this won't be a lengthy suspension for Myles.
I think it will be.

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It's probably a good thing that Garrett won't be playing in Pittsburgh in two weeks.

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Nice to chalk up another win. Unfortunate ending. It was ugly but it doesn't really look like anyone got injured from the fight so ... it is what it is. I don't really want to think about it for the next 3 months. There are guys who have done a lot of bad things OFF the field who are in the NFL. I don't really think poorly of Myles for this. Yeah, dumb, but I don't really feel any differently about him. He needs to get himself under control. But he didn't shoot someone on the streets or something... Expect we are without Myles for a few weeks and hopefully he comes back with a little more discipline. Makes it harder to win but look... we are 4-6 and the chance of winning out and going 10-6, while possible, is and has been low. So I don't think we were going to the playoffs one way or another. Maybe this can kick the team into gear regarding discipline... It seems like we are playing better football and that is important.

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Also doesnt wilks call the D plays? So how is that on Freddie for calling the late blitz?

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Myles Garrett: “I made a mistake. I lost my cool and I regret it.” Declined to say what set him off.

Garrett said he doesn’t know what kind of punishment is coming his way. Said he’ll address the team tomorrow.


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Now if Chad Thomas did this...I wonder how we would feel? Btw Thomas actually flashed several times tonight...he played better than expected imo

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Originally Posted By: Moxdawg
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Quick reaction. Rudolph should have been ejected.

Pouncey and garret could be suspended for multiple weeks.

Pouncey could be gone longer than garrett.
yeah . Why wasn't Rudolph ejected! I doubt Pouncy even gets suspended
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Garrett has to be gone for the year - that was the worst thing I've seen since the Haynesworth head-stomp (and might be worse)...

Kitchen's is also responsible - he was asking for trouble sending three all-out blitzes in the last 1 minute when up 14. You don't do that, and the Steelers were right to be pissed.

But at the end of the day, you can't swing a helmet at a helmetless player - one inch or two and Rudolph could be dead now -- the idea that he was asking for it by getting into a shoving match is just silly.
you're right.. we should have just set on the bench and let them score. Be good sports. This is the dumbest comment I've read and am literally dumber for reading it!


I agree. Dumb comment about blitzing at the end.

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What Myles did was inexcusable. It ruined the win for me no doubt. In my over 50 years of watching football the only thing I remember close to this was when Lyle Alzado ripped the helmet off of a Jets OT and threw it at him. I believe it happened in the early to mid eighties when he was playing for Oakland.

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Originally Posted By: BirdDawg81
NMaybe this can kick the team into gear regarding discipline... It seems like we are playing better football and that is important.


I was thinking that too.
This is rock bottom of discipline.
Maybe that's what this team needs to wake up.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
It's probably a good thing that Garrett won't be playing in Pittsburgh in two weeks.


But man oh man do I hope he will, as unlikely as that may be. That game n Pittsburgh is gonna be CRAZY


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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
Now if Chad Thomas did this...I wonder how we would feel? Btw Thomas actually flashed several times tonight...he played better than expected imo


And he's about to get the opportunity of a lifetime.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
You guys are right. Garrett gave us a bad name. After this we will be known as that physical team that kicks your ass then kicks your ass again. Horrible.


Go root for Buffalo.

It's hard enough rooting for a team the employees a woman beater, and now we have dumb players swinging helmets at people without a helmet on.

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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
What Myles did was inexcusable. It ruined the win for me no doubt. In my over 50 years of watching football the only thing I remember close to this was when Lyle Alzado ripped the helmet off of a Jets OT and threw it at him. I believe it happened in the early to mid eighties when he was playing for Oakland.



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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Baker Mayfield said “it feels like we lost the game”


This is one of the main points. After kicking their ass all game long, they walk off the field with a moral victory. Did anyone see Rudolph smiling at the end? What the "f" did he have to smile about unless it was "mission accomplished". Now we go into their house in two weeks without our best pass rusher and maybe without our best tackle. We'll be booed constantly, and the national media will have a field day with this. To those who think this is "turn about is fair play" aren't considering the politically correct, protect the player landscape we live in now. This was definitely a victory for the Steelers, even though they started it.


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Originally Posted By: CalDawg
Did anyone see Rudolph smiling at the end? What the "f" did he have to smile about unless it was "mission accomplished"


No. I didn't.
I hope that video comes out eventually if true.

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We're really going to miss Avery now.


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What a crapshow end to the game. Completely uncalled for.. I've never ever left a win feeling so crappy about it.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Not great having Steve Smith, who sucker punched a teammate and broke his nose, and Michael Irvin, stabbed a teammate in the neck with scissors, as the guys commenting on this game.


Now that's funny !

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Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.

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If Rudolph got seriously injured, Garret may have ended up in jail.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.


We're about to see a huge uptick in our blitz percentage.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.

OBJ was correct in the postgame.... he knows Browns should have scored 40 points.. happy for the win but a whole lot to work on.


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Rudolph should be suspended also!


For what? Grabbing Garrett’s face mask, getting in his face? Big deal.

Had he ripped Mason’s helmet off and walked away, nothing happens. No suspensions, maybe fines.




Rudolph was ripping off Myle's helmet and started the whole fiasco. Both should be suspended.

Can you understand or is that above your IQ grade??


He was ATTEMPTING to pull his helmet off, so what?! That might be enough to get after a guy and want to rip his helmet off too, but at that point, had it ended there, all it would have been were personal fouls and maybe a fine. But Mason didn’t instigate an assault with a weapon.

Who the hell cares if Mason gets one game? So what! Garrett is public enemy #1, he’s gone for the year, the season is trash, we were known as Clowns before this game and this cemented that for years+. It’s indefensible. NOTHING Mason did or started matters now.

This is the equivalent of “Mallace at the Pallace”. Total black eye for the league and to this team and city.

Who gives a rats ass about what Mason “started”? Stuff like that gets started every week and every other NFL player holds it together enough to not attempt to literally kill a player.

You’re a trash poster. I’ve had you on ignore for years. Proof positive.


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You just cannot allow yourself to lose your cool like that. 8 freaking seconds left. We are the dumbest team on the field even in a big win.

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How can any of us root for Miles again?


I won't have a problem whatsoever.



Really what Myles did was inexcusable but if was on the Steelers they wouldn't be crucifying them like this ...


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Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.

OBJ was correct in the postgame.... he knows Browns should have scored 40 points.. happy for the win but a whole lot to work on.


To be fair, Pittsburgh is no slouch on Defense. However, we had something like 3 turnovers returned to midfield or beyond where we ended up getting no points on offense. That just can't happen.

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.


A couple thoughts: Maybe these two can actually put some work in during the off season together. Also, what the hell are they working on now? It's been TEN games. What do they do all week? SMH


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Baker and OBJ going to need to get on the same page. Need to outscore teams the rest of the way.


A couple thoughts: Maybe these two can actually put some work in during the off season together. Also, what the hell are they working on now? It's been TEN games. What do they do all week? SMH


Fair question

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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
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Rudolph should be suspended also!


For what? Grabbing Garrett’s face mask, getting in his face? Big deal.

Had he ripped Mason’s helmet off and walked away, nothing happens. No suspensions, maybe fines.




Rudolph was ripping off Myle's helmet and started the whole fiasco. Both should be suspended.

Can you understand or is that above your IQ grade??


He was ATTEMPTING to pull his helmet off, so what?! That might be enough to get after a guy and want to rip his helmet off too, but at that point, had it ended there, all it would have been were personal fouls and maybe a fine. But Mason didn’t instigate an assault with a weapon.

Who the hell cares if Mason gets one game? So what! Garrett is public enemy #1, he’s gone for the year, the season is trash, we were known as Clowns before this game and this cemented that for years+. It’s indefensible. NOTHING Mason did or started matters now.

This is the equivalent of “Mallace at the Pallace”. Total black eye for the league and to this team and city.

Who gives a rats ass about what Mason “started”? Stuff like that gets started every week and every other NFL player holds it together enough to not attempt to literally kill a player.

You’re a trash poster. I’ve had you on ignore for years. Proof positive.


In a society where UFC is a thing, I feel you might be overreacting.


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Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
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Rudolph should be suspended also!


For what? Grabbing Garrett’s face mask, getting in his face? Big deal.

Had he ripped Mason’s helmet off and walked away, nothing happens. No suspensions, maybe fines.




Rudolph was ripping off Myle's helmet and started the whole fiasco. Both should be suspended.

Can you understand or is that above your IQ grade??


He was ATTEMPTING to pull his helmet off, so what?! That might be enough to get after a guy and want to rip his helmet off too, but at that point, had it ended there, all it would have been were personal fouls and maybe a fine. But Mason didn’t instigate an assault with a weapon.

Who the hell cares if Mason gets one game? So what! Garrett is public enemy #1, he’s gone for the year, the season is trash, we were known as Clowns before this game and this cemented that for years+. It’s indefensible. NOTHING Mason did or started matters now.

This is the equivalent of “Mallace at the Pallace”. Total black eye for the league and to this team and city.

Who gives a rats ass about what Mason “started”? Stuff like that gets started every week and every other NFL player holds it together enough to not attempt to literally kill a player.

You’re a trash poster. I’ve had you on ignore for years. Proof positive.


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Back to the game ..... We played the game to shorten the game, and not allow a turnover to let the Steelers back in it. Yes, we "should have" scored more ..... but we ran the ball a lot .... to not allow the Steelers to get back in the game ..... and that part worked.


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We're really going to miss Avery now.


Good point, I wish we held onto him

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Sorry, but nothing you can pontificate is going to stop the bleeding of the end game fiasco.

We have probably lost some of our most important players on D for multiple games and injury.

Sad to say, even with a win, our season is lost.

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Whatever your feelings on this, the narrative has been changed from "Browns beat the Steelers" to "Myles Garret hits Mason Rudolph in the head with a helmet". That blows.


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I think Myles is done for the year. Rudolph will get a game or two, and Pouncey should get 3-4 games.

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Rudolph should get whatever Garrett gets.


No. He shouldn't.

No, he shouldn't. Rudolph started a scrum, which happens all the time, Garrett was in the scrum and did the equivalent of pulling a weapon and totally escalated it.

A lot of wrong and bad things happened during that series of events by a lot of people but the only one that will have long term lasting impacts is the image of Garrett swinging that helmet at the head of a man with no helmet on.


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