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And I think there’s plenty of motivation for the NFL to keep any slurs Rudolph May have made under wraps. One, it’d look bad for the Steelers and that can’t happen if possible... but think of the timing: with Kaep out there bringing race front and center (I know it was a workout but the issue comes with him) the last thing the NFL needs is to get embroiled in that topic and what they plan to do with Rudolph. Unfortunately one would think this would have motivated ether league to be much more rational in its punishments.

Just a quick question.Okay, maybe a few questions.

Wouldn't Myles being the defensive player of the year help the entire team? I mean if he played so well he received that award, wouldn't the entire team benefit from that level of play?

If Baker said he wanted to offensive player of the year or MVP, wouldn't that level of play benefit the entire team?

Some ignore the evidence and seem to find humor in the fact they do so.

I’ve never interpreted Myles as a me first guy. I have no problem with him vocalizing a goal especially when that goal is exactly the same as everyone around hims expectation.

He would be a great juror, he can spot a guilty person in seconds!

J/C

I wonder how the NFL wants to explain there was no audio when thee was a mic pointed right at the fight.

Right at Mason

Of course. Everybody would love to have an MVP on their team. I guess the only exception would be a WR that never cared to block or lolly-gagged through routes when he wasn't the primary receiver. Apply that mentality to any position and you can see how an uber-talented player may be a detriment. Obviously that type of player would jump off the screen as being selfish as well. Can't say I've ever had that inkling watching Garrett.

Are you sure it's me that's ignoring the evidence?

Why are we here? Who's actions put Myles and the team in the position they are in now?

That's one point that no one can argue. All the cliches fit... Selfish, stupid, careless, dangerous, and very detrimental to the team. It will be up to Myles to make sure that's not his legacy. I, for one, have full confidence that he will. I've seen nothing in his past, or his demeanor as a human to say that he can't or won't.

There is a stark difference in whose actions caused us to be in the position we're in and the motivation on the part of that player. Here's the statement you made....



There is zero evidence to suggest that was the motivation behind what transpired. Zero.

They say that there is no audio in the sense that what they do have doesn’t show Rudolph saying it? Or are they saying there’s no audio like there’s no video of Epstein’s killer because the cameras were not on?

From what's being reported by MKC, they said last night that no players were wearing mic's, then they said they didn't "listen" to audio. So there are conflicting reports from the NFL.

There are always players wearing mics. Centers wear mics for every game, not some games, every game. They're built into their pads, that's how we get audio from the QB at the LOS. If they say there wasn't any available - they're lying. If they say they didn't listen to it - they're lying.

With the rule in Article 51 of the agreement with the NFLPA, the point is mute. "In addition, the player (or his selected team representative) has the right to “embargo” any sound that the player views as “extremely sensitive or inappropriate.”

Reserves the right to rule on additional discipline??

In other words...

If, after Garrett meets with Gooddell in the offseason and gets additional games off (extending into the next season), Garrett would appeal that and that would be heard by Thrash. That's how I read it and makes sense to me.

Well, Thrash reserving the right makes it sound like "Don't cross me boy!" Probably just me... I'm getting a bit paranoid about this whole thing lol.

I agree, it's oddly worded. I choose to leave it at that.

I read it that after the meeting with Goddell - if further discipline is handed down, he can appeal that.

I hate the bozos that run the NFL.

They have their favorites and despise their less favorites.

The NFL has sent a message loud and clear about how they feel about player safety.. it's ok to start fights, just don't try to win them.

Don't be the one that grabs the headlines.

There are plenty of videos of helmet to helmet hits but haven't seen a video of another player doing what Garrett did. I would like to see one.

Thus saith football demigod.

We will tell you when we want to see you dance again. Until then, STFU.

Look. They are out there. Even the Albert haynesworth vid where he pulled the helmet off, then cleated the guy in the head.

The evidence is the action. There's no more evidence that's needed.

On a side note, I don't think Garrett ever takes another snap in the NFL.

My Bad, They got me.

If they lifetime ban a 23 year old kid from the NFL for that, while letting women beaters have second and third chances, I’m out.

How 'bout I give you 10-1 odds and you put $100 where that pie-hole lives.

That'd be a super safe bet - give him odds of 100-1. If it truly goes badly for MG - the Browns will release him or he would retire. Patriots would sign him out of retirement or after his release .... he'd be playing again in a month.

There is no way MG is banned for life.

J/c

I typically like Bill Burr so I’ll give it a listen, thanks

Garrett Part 4

A Quinn Martin Production...

Well I've certainly come around since my first 'how can we root for Myles again' haha.

This boils down to bad optics. And I was simply shocked by the bad optics.

I'm pretty sure Myles is a great dude, this wasn't BS assault, that ahole Mason probably baited Myles all along.

I mean, Mason reacts exactly how someone who was trying to elicit something all along by raising his hands up right after.

Who does that?

Why would they ban him for life over an action that didn't even cause injury? Myles was wrong but it looked a lot worse than it was and Rudolph instigated the whole thing. If this happened to a Steeler, Patriot or Cowboy he probably wouldn't even have gotten the 6 games.

I believe Rishuz thinks Myles should retire and sue, not get banned for life.