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Exactly. The 6 game suspension is more than enough so why would you make a statement like this and allow it to fester longer? In my life experiences I have come to the conclusion that many people that are in high positions don't have a clue and don't belong there. I'm getting that feeling about the ones that run this league.

This is exactly what they are doing. Dont make waves, dont question us,dont appeal, dont sue, dont make US look bad. Be quite, be good, grovel then we will probably let you back in.

Its disgusting. It has nothing to do with discipline. It is all about control of image.

It means he needs to go back in and do his best linda Lovelace impression if he wants to play next year

They are saying "Ix-nay on the acial-ray ur-slay stuff, capische?".

It was a solid effort by Myles Smollett but fortunately the league is far less gullible than the average fan. It was a desperate hail mary attempt to lessen his punishment, albeit a poor one.

That's okay troll. We'll beat you down next week without him.

You should. The Steelers offense is garbage without Ben. Their season was over 8 weeks ago.

But what about the Duck?

I'd rather have Rudolph playing.

It means that if he lets it drop and toes the line and allows this to just become an old story swept aside where Myles is the bad guy, then he will be back on time for next season, but if he keeps appealing things and keeps stirring the pot by bringing up things that make this a larger and messier story for the NFL to deal with, then they'll have little choice but to feel that he is not remorseful enough for his actions and he won't be reinstated.

"NFL is hopeful", my azz.

Bingo.

The only thing I'd say to Myles to maybe get in line with this is his suspension was always going to be until the end of the year no matter what. Everyone knew that the moment it happened. While I've advocating fighting this numerous times - and have also read that Myles and his family are investigating legal action - if the NFL is saying you're back week 1 next year, I'd let it drop.

I should be but I’m actually not amazed at all that any of you don’t see this with objective eyes. If this were any other team you’d be saying all the same things everyone else is saying. If you’re outside of the city of Cleveland this is so obvious.

He made football generally and the league itself look very very very bad in a super visable way at a time when football and the league are desperate to play down the violence and the physical dangers of the game. On a thursday no less, when there were few distractions. This was a massive facepalm in the league office.

They need him and this story to go away and they frankly don’t know how long it will take to die down. Having an immediate appeal and crying racism was exactly the wrong way to get it to die down. So very dumb.

They *think* it should blow over by next season but they don’t really know and a lot will depend on him. He and the team (and the Cleveland media) need to go super low profile on this. He and the incident need to be “that which we speak not of again”. Period. The whole fairness part of it is irrelevant and childish. See it for what it is; a massive PR gaffe that must be allowed to fade.

Myles is in this position because of Myles. I don't think that's in dispute.

But the handling of the case and the punishment is not equitable. This isn't the first time Goodell has been viewed as not being equitable. You have a corrupt individual intoxicated by the power of his position that continues to make decisions as judge, jury, and executioner without any checks and balances.

That's the part that I would consider fighting. Myles screwed up, deserves to be suspended, and hurt himself and the team. I don't think any of that is in question. And if there are any fans who aren't upset with Myles because of this, I'd suggest taking off your brown and orange colored glasses, setting them on the ground, and stopping on them.

CLEVELAND BROWNS FANS USE HELMET TO HIT A MASON RUDOLPH PINATA BEFORE GAME (VIDEO)

https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/11/2...fore-game-video

The league is a private organization. What’s “fair” is what they decide. The court of public opinion (and public dollars) is the only one that really counts and no one is paying much attention to anything other than that 1.2 seconds when Miles swings the helmet. Everything before and after is irrelevant noise. If he were on the Falcons or the Rams or whoever, we’d have paid attention for the day it was on rapid loop on ESPN and we, as unaffected fans of another team, would have drawn summary judgment and that would be that. Everyone thinks they’re different... and they’re not. All of this hand wringing about what Mason did and any of the others, what’s really a fair punishment (which should almost always be less in the eyes of browns fans... shocking!) is totally irrelevant. There’s nothing to fight. He’s done for the year. If he’s a good boy and the wind blows in the right direction he comes back as quietly as possible at the beginning of next year. That’s a best case scenario.

As much as I feel Mason Rudolph makes an exceptional pinata, that seems to be in poor taste.

I could not disagree more.

I wasn't involved, I just posted it.

Normally, I'd feel the same way.
I'm OK with this particular example.

The NFL needs Myles more than Myles needs the NFL.

You're right, but I still think it's hilarious.

That ain't happening. It will be the talk of the week when he returns, and all this will get rehashed. I would not be surprised if it is scheduled so his first game back is against Pitt.

I need to add emoji Likes to this site just so I can come back and <3 that post.

No, no they really don't.

Any bets on when this meeting will take place?

The Browns fan in me thinks it will be well after the draft and probably late into training camp, just to screw with him and us more. As in, there's no way they meet in February. That would make free agency and the draft easier (not that we'd be replacing him, but maybe signing/drafting a backup would be in order if he's out the beginning AND he's a target for more future suspensions).

The NFL is a "private" organization right up until the time they want the public to build and maintain the rather expensive facilities they need to conduct their private business in a manner that makes them googles of money.

League year starts on March 18th, 2020. That would be the absolute soonest they would rule on his eligibility. Hopefully they don't play the same games with him that they did with Gordon... Although I understand the deal with Gordon - repeat offender, annual headache.

Don't like quoting myself but I lost the EDIT capabilities.

"That would make free agency and the draft easier." If we knew his status before free agency and the draft. Not knowing, that would put us in a bit of a bind. If he's out for 4-6 to start and he's now on the "repeat offender" list, do we sign/draft a guy that can log a some games in his spot?

And yeah, if he hits a QB up high in week 7 next year, is that a fine or is he automatically suspended (see Vontaze)? He already had a problem getting flagged when he shouldn't AND also he did hit a bit late and hard some other times, so this could get very tricky going forward.

I thought it was A very bold move on Mrs. Haslam’s part to wear the cap with “95” on it at the game. Myles doesn’t have to worry about ownership having his back.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Issued an apology to every living creature in existence,then wore a hat.Mixed message.

Nice signature the only problem is it's been "year one" since 1995, how many years is that.

Yeah, I have mixed feelings about her wearing that hat yesterday.

Did you ever consider that DeCastro heard what Myles heard and fully understood why Myles ripped his helmet off the way he did.. which is why after watching his QB get his helmet ripped off he was able to be calm and just try to usher Myles away from him rather than defending his QB in that moment?

Yea, Myles is one year away from about 6 years $140 million... Not sure where, other than the NFL, he's going to get that deal.

Well, to be honest, not til now. I still think 9 of 10 players would be no where near as calm and non-combative after watching their QB get bashed over the head with a helmet. Besides that, unless MR screamed it out loud, I doubt DeCastro was close enough to hear it.

Food for thought though.

Maybe she has mixed feelings about doing all that apologizing, lol. Probably the only time we’ll see it.

I don't know, DeCastro and Villanueva were standing pretty close by during the first scrum on the ground with the helmet ripping..

But until just now, I never noticed... DeCastro was actually protecting Garrett after the helmet swing. He took him down and was on top of him but he wasn't punching or kicking, he was just lying there, limiting what other Steelers were able to do...

This is the latest photo of Mason Rudolph taken Sunday night:

MASON RUDOLPH ALMOST SLIPPED UP & CONFIRMED HE CALLED MYLES GARRETT A RACIAL SLUR WHEN RESPONDING TO CLAIM
https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/11/2...to-claim-video/
By Darrelle Lincoln


The dreaded Freudian slip. It has gotten the best of us, but I’m sure Mason Rudolph would like a do-over on this interview.

Following the Steelers win over the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday, the benched QB finally got his opportunity to respond to Myles Garrett claims that he used a racial slur that caused the brawl during the Browns-Steelers game last Thursday.

In his attempt to state how wrong Garrett was, Rudolph almost stated it was “totally true” before catching himself and stating it was untrue.

The NFL has already came out and cleared Rudolph of that claim, as they had nobody mic’d up

Ill put a 1000 at 10-1 he plays again as well.