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You know who the Haslams LOVE? Andrew Berry, who spent the last year as the #Eagles VP of Football Operations after serving three years as the #Browns’ VP of Player Personnel. But will they choose their GM or let their next head coach have a say?

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I talked with a couple of buddies last night. The only real possibility I saw that might happen is pairing up McCarthy with Eliot Wolf again.

McCarthy, Stefanski, or McDaniels will be the HC

Haslam must really like paying people to "not" work for him.

I figured Dorsey job would be in jeopardy, and I had been telling folks for weeks on here, and most said I was crazy lol. Not so crazy now is it?

That being said, even though I wasn't a fan of Dorsey, I would have been OK giving him another year, I mean Jackson won 1 game in two years and was given a 3rd year lol

The Haslam's are just a train wreck. I personally think this pretty much 100% confirms McDaniels is the guy. No way McCarthy comes here now, we only had a leg up because of Dorsey, Highsmith, and Wolf, and I am sure Wolf is working out his parting arrangement as well, no way he stays here in this mess.

It will be perfectly fitting now for the Pats to go to the Super Bowl, the Browns wait on McDaniels, only for him to pull out and leave Jimmy Haslam with no coach lol

you heard it here first, this is typical kneejerk by the Haslams, and its going to be costly and hurt this time around.

The suffering is never gonna end is it?

I don’t understand what Dorsey did wrong. The Corbett pick was bad but other than that he’s loaded the team with talent.

Kitchens had a rough rookie year but we knew he’d have to grow when we hired him.

I’m so sick of Haslam.

Actually the opposite if you read reports...McCarthy was very lukewarm towards working with those guys

Callaway, cut Avery, cut Nassib, traded Ogbah, traded a 3rd for Tyrod T., HIRED Freddie,

Dorsey did more good than wrong, and I wanted to see another year, but he did more than just miss on Corbett.

You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM.

You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM. None of them are lighting it up anywhere else.

He hired Kitchend to grow into the role. If it was a one year, win now or fired he probably would’ve hired someone else. I mean, I never wanted Kitchens but if he makes a plan Haslam needs to stick to it. No franchise has ever gotten good firing coaches and GM every year

Nassib had a great year, Ogbah played good ball. He let them go and didn't upgrade. Where they were drafted doesn't matter.

Also, the people that matter, held it against him.

I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.



This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more.

I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.



This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more.

No GM ever went in to a better situation than Dorsey. He failed (as evidenced by his firing).

The Haslams have been failing since they bought the team. This is just another in a long line of bone headed moves by them.

You know what I look at? I look at what Dorsey did in GB and KC. Too bad he won't get the chance to do that here now! The insanity continues in Cleveland.

The Cleveland Browns and John Dorsey have mutually agreed to part ways. Dorsey was named general manager on December 7, 2017.

Statement from Dee and Jimmy Haslam

"We have a great appreciation for John and all he has done with the Cleveland Browns. He has helped create a foundation that we need to continue to develop and build upon. While John helped greatly improve our team’s talent and we are excited about the core players on our roster, we fully recognized that our team did not meet its potential on or off the field and additional changes in leadership give us the best opportunity for success in the future. As the role of the general manager continues to evolve in this league we felt there were areas that needed to be reassessed. Over the last 48 hours, we’ve had discussion with John about his role but could not come to an agreement on a position that would enable him to remain with the organization.

“As we conveyed on Sunday and our players reiterated yesterday, bringing in a strong leader with our head coach is our priority. Our process to improve upon the leadership will allow the flexibility to ensure we create the best partnership between our future head coach and general manager. We know the road of our tenure as stewards of this franchise has been a test of patience as we all want the success that our fans so deserve and we are relentlessly committed to and working towards. We fully appreciate, understand and empathize with our fans as we work towards our ultimate goal of building a championship-level football team.”

Statement from John Dorsey

“When I took this job, the history of this storied franchise and the passion of our fans was an integral part of my decision. It is that same understanding and desire to see these fans enjoy the success they are so deserving of that helped me conclude, along with Jimmy and Dee, that it was best to part ways as they embark on the search for a new head coach. I know how critical the relationship is between a general manager and head coach and I also know how critical it is that the Browns have a strong leader in their next coach. I have a great appreciation for the men and women I have worked with since being in Cleveland and my family has the same love and appreciation for this community and are thankful for the opportunity to be a part of this journey.”

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...medium=referral

Berry. As in Andrew Berry.