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You know who the Haslams LOVE? Andrew Berry, who spent the last year as the #Eagles VP of Football Operations after serving three years as the #Browns’ VP of Player Personnel. But will they choose their GM or let their next head coach have a say? https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1212089119611981824 Yup. There have been rumors about him as well.
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The suffering is never gonna end is it? I don’t understand what Dorsey did wrong. The Corbett pick was bad but other than that he’s loaded the team with talent. Kitchens had a rough rookie year but we knew he’d have to grow when we hired him. I’m so sick of Haslam.
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With Dorsey apparently on the outs, the leakers are back in full force. Always a good sign for an organization to have multiple individuals with loyalty to a member of the national media ... /sarc.
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I talked with a couple of buddies last night. The only real possibility I saw that might happen is pairing up McCarthy with Eliot Wolf again. There are reports that McCarthy and Wolf do not get along.
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McCarthy, Stefanski, or McDaniels will be the HC Fix that for you. No way McCarthy comes here now, We just fired two of his close friends in Dorsey and HighSmith, especially Alonzo Highsmith. Elliot Wolf and McCarthy don't reall get along and had been some friction in Green Bay, but Dorsey and Highsmith were very good buddies with McCarthy You cna' scratch McCarthy, unless we give him a Gruden type of contract and allow him to pick his own FO.
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Haslam must really like paying people to "not" work for him.
I figured Dorsey job would be in jeopardy, and I had been telling folks for weeks on here, and most said I was crazy lol. Not so crazy now is it?
That being said, even though I wasn't a fan of Dorsey, I would have been OK giving him another year, I mean Jackson won 1 game in two years and was given a 3rd year lol
The Haslam's are just a train wreck. I personally think this pretty much 100% confirms McDaniels is the guy. No way McCarthy comes here now, we only had a leg up because of Dorsey, Highsmith, and Wolf, and I am sure Wolf is working out his parting arrangement as well, no way he stays here in this mess.
It will be perfectly fitting now for the Pats to go to the Super Bowl, the Browns wait on McDaniels, only for him to pull out and leave Jimmy Haslam with no coach lol
you heard it here first, this is typical kneejerk by the Haslams, and its going to be costly and hurt this time around. Actually the opposite if you read reports...McCarthy was very lukewarm towards working with those guys
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The suffering is never gonna end is it? I don’t understand what Dorsey did wrong. The Corbett pick was bad but other than that he’s loaded the team with talent. Kitchens had a rough rookie year but we knew he’d have to grow when we hired him. I’m so sick of Haslam. Callaway, cut Avery, cut Nassib, traded Ogbah, traded a 3rd for Tyrod T., HIRED Freddie, Dorsey did more good than wrong, and I wanted to see another year, but he did more than just miss on Corbett.
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Here is my understanding of where things stand: #Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam are going to recommend a new front office structure, as @TomPelissero described. And presented with that option, GM John Dorsey is expected to say no thanks. And the team will have a vacancy. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1212091206458650626
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All of this is leading to Josh McDaniels.
As i said before, it will only fitting for us to come to terms with McDaniels, him to accept, and The Pats to go deep into the playoffs/Super Bowl only for McDaniels to pull out leaving us high and dry just like he did to Indy.
I'd love to have McDaniels, but I won't trust him till he has signed the contract and the Colts were never able to get him too despite accepting the job.
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Haslam must really like paying people to "not" work for him.
I figured Dorsey job would be in jeopardy, and I had been telling folks for weeks on here, and most said I was crazy lol. Not so crazy now is it?
That being said, even though I wasn't a fan of Dorsey, I would have been OK giving him another year, I mean Jackson won 1 game in two years and was given a 3rd year lol
The Haslam's are just a train wreck. I personally think this pretty much 100% confirms McDaniels is the guy. No way McCarthy comes here now, we only had a leg up because of Dorsey, Highsmith, and Wolf, and I am sure Wolf is working out his parting arrangement as well, no way he stays here in this mess.
It will be perfectly fitting now for the Pats to go to the Super Bowl, the Browns wait on McDaniels, only for him to pull out and leave Jimmy Haslam with no coach lol
you heard it here first, this is typical kneejerk by the Haslams, and its going to be costly and hurt this time around. Actually the opposite if you read reports...McCarthy was very lukewarm towards working with those guys I would hope your right, we should be going after McCarthy 100%. He already has all his assistants picked out and everything, we can hire him and get to moveing on fixing things tommrow. Just interview Wilks already to satisfy the Rooney Rule and hire McCarthy then lol
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The suffering is never gonna end is it? I don’t understand what Dorsey did wrong. The Corbett pick was bad but other than that he’s loaded the team with talent. Kitchens had a rough rookie year but we knew he’d have to grow when we hired him. I’m so sick of Haslam. Callaway, cut Avery, cut Nassib, traded Ogbah, traded a 3rd for Tyrod T., HIRED Freddie, Dorsey did more good than wrong, and I wanted to see another year, but he did more than just miss on Corbett. You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM. None of them are lighting it up anywhere else. He hired Kitchend to grow into the role. If it was a one year, win now or fired he probably would’ve hired someone else. I mean, I never wanted Kitchens but if he makes a plan Haslam needs to stick to it. No franchise has ever gotten good firing coaches and GM every year
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I gotta admit, I don't get this move. Under Dorsey, we've seen a major talent increase.. Did it pan out under Kitchens, No, But I think that's more Kitchens than Dorsey.
Until I get a clearer picture of why, I'm thinking this is a dumb move.
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You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM. Nassib had a great year, Ogbah played good ball. He let them go and didn't upgrade. Where they were drafted doesn't matter. Also, the people that matter, held it against him.
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The suffering is never gonna end is it? I don’t understand what Dorsey did wrong. The Corbett pick was bad but other than that he’s loaded the team with talent. Kitchens had a rough rookie year but we knew he’d have to grow when we hired him. I’m so sick of Haslam. Callaway, cut Avery, cut Nassib, traded Ogbah, traded a 3rd for Tyrod T., HIRED Freddie, Dorsey did more good than wrong, and I wanted to see another year, but he did more than just miss on Corbett. You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM. None of them are lighting it up anywhere else. He hired Kitchend to grow into the role. If it was a one year, win now or fired he probably would’ve hired someone else. I mean, I never wanted Kitchens but if he makes a plan Haslam needs to stick to it. No franchise has ever gotten good firing coaches and GM every year name one from this draft that looks even serviceable?
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You listed a bunch of mediocre guys, mostly 3rd rounders. Wouldn’t hold that against a GM. Nassib had a great year, Ogbah played good ball. He let them go and didn't upgrade. Where they were drafted doesn't matter. Also, the people that matter, held it against him. actually in terms of talent, regardless of if they still play for us or play elsewhere...one could argue Sashi brought in better overall team talent
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I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.
This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more.
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I thought MM wasn't keen on Dorsey during the last go round.
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Wow, talking about not giving a guy time to build your team. Dorsey is probably glad he is out of that mess. The power struggle in Cleveland continues! Hope things work out in the end but I seriously doubt it will.
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Haslems must want a coach that demands more control.. Better be Belicheck and not McDainiels . Or maby Bill Parcells.
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I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.
This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more. I made a post yesterday with alot of this..Dorsey has created holes where we didn't have them and overpaid for bad players and failed to hit enough on the draft given how much capital he was given...we could have contracted Kiper and hit on more picks
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No GM ever went in to a better situation than Dorsey. He failed (as evidenced by his firing).
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I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.
This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more. You know what I look at? I look at what Dorsey did in GB and KC. Too bad he won't get the chance to do that here now! The insanity continues in Cleveland.
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Jimmy & Dee Haslam's resume: 5 fired head coaches, 5 fired general managers, 2 fired team presidents, 32 wins, 88 losses, 1 tie. https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/1212094538619215872
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No GM ever went in to a better situation than Dorsey. He failed (as evidenced by his firing). The Haslams have been failing since they bought the team. This is just another in a long line of bone headed moves by them.
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No GM ever went in to a better situation than Dorsey. He failed (as evidenced by his firing). The Haslams have been failing since they bought the team. This is just another in a long line of bone headed moves by them. Agreed on the first sentence. Wait and see on the second sentence.
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The Cleveland Browns and John Dorsey have mutually agreed to part ways. Dorsey was named general manager on December 7, 2017. Statement from Dee and Jimmy Haslam "We have a great appreciation for John and all he has done with the Cleveland Browns. He has helped create a foundation that we need to continue to develop and build upon. While John helped greatly improve our team’s talent and we are excited about the core players on our roster, we fully recognized that our team did not meet its potential on or off the field and additional changes in leadership give us the best opportunity for success in the future. As the role of the general manager continues to evolve in this league we felt there were areas that needed to be reassessed. Over the last 48 hours, we’ve had discussion with John about his role but could not come to an agreement on a position that would enable him to remain with the organization. “As we conveyed on Sunday and our players reiterated yesterday, bringing in a strong leader with our head coach is our priority. Our process to improve upon the leadership will allow the flexibility to ensure we create the best partnership between our future head coach and general manager. We know the road of our tenure as stewards of this franchise has been a test of patience as we all want the success that our fans so deserve and we are relentlessly committed to and working towards. We fully appreciate, understand and empathize with our fans as we work towards our ultimate goal of building a championship-level football team.” Statement from John Dorsey “When I took this job, the history of this storied franchise and the passion of our fans was an integral part of my decision. It is that same understanding and desire to see these fans enjoy the success they are so deserving of that helped me conclude, along with Jimmy and Dee, that it was best to part ways as they embark on the search for a new head coach. I know how critical the relationship is between a general manager and head coach and I also know how critical it is that the Browns have a strong leader in their next coach. I have a great appreciation for the men and women I have worked with since being in Cleveland and my family has the same love and appreciation for this community and are thankful for the opportunity to be a part of this journey.” https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...medium=referral
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If Dorsey is out they already made it.
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Dorsey is out; could not come to an agreement on a restructuring of the front office. Sounds like he wouldn't have total control and didn't like it.
Did some good things and did some lousy things. Baker is on notice right now. He better get to work in the weight room, the film room and in training camp. Less commercials and interviews and more time devoted to being a PROFESSIONAL football player for the Cleveland Browns.
I'm wondering if the Haslams will ever get it right. SMH
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According to Browns and Johns Staement - MUTUALLY agreed to part ways.
Meaning to me with my "deductive reasoning" the next HC or Depodesta are getting all the power.
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I have no idea if the Browns HC search led to Dorsey's firing, which would be problematic from a 30,000 ft organizational level, but I think this helps encapsulate the issues of Dorsey.
This is a good chunk, but there is a good amount more. You know what I look at? I look at what Dorsey did in GB and KC. Too bad he won't get the chance to do that here now! The insanity continues in Cleveland. he gets alot of credit for Green Bay when truth is he wasn't the GM... during his time that was wolf, Sherman, Thompson
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The Cleveland Browns and John Dorsey have mutually agreed to part ways. Dorsey was named general manager on December 7, 2017. Statement from Dee and Jimmy Haslam "We have a great appreciation for John and all he has done with the Cleveland Browns. He has helped create a foundation that we need to continue to develop and build upon. While John helped greatly improve our team’s talent and we are excited about the core players on our roster, we fully recognized that our team did not meet its potential on or off the field and additional changes in leadership give us the best opportunity for success in the future. As the role of the general manager continues to evolve in this league we felt there were areas that needed to be reassessed. Over the last 48 hours, we’ve had discussion with John about his role but could not come to an agreement on a position that would enable him to remain with the organization. “As we conveyed on Sunday and our players reiterated yesterday, bringing in a strong leader with our head coach is our priority. Our process to improve upon the leadership will allow the flexibility to ensure we create the best partnership between our future head coach and general manager. We know the road of our tenure as stewards of this franchise has been a test of patience as we all want the success that our fans so deserve and we are relentlessly committed to and working towards. We fully appreciate, understand and empathize with our fans as we work towards our ultimate goal of building a championship-level football team.” Statement from John Dorsey “When I took this job, the history of this storied franchise and the passion of our fans was an integral part of my decision. It is that same understanding and desire to see these fans enjoy the success they are so deserving of that helped me conclude, along with Jimmy and Dee, that it was best to part ways as they embark on the search for a new head coach. I know how critical the relationship is between a general manager and head coach and I also know how critical it is that the Browns have a strong leader in their next coach. I have a great appreciation for the men and women I have worked with since being in Cleveland and my family has the same love and appreciation for this community and are thankful for the opportunity to be a part of this journey.” https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/bro...medium=referral Haslams part strongly inferred they want more analytics
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Berry. As in Andrew Berry. Thats what I think as well
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It may be Stefanski the more I think
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Well at least you're actually using deductive reasoning this time.
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