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I can't shake this feeling that if we hire McDaniels that he'll spend 1 year here, BB retires, and he scoots back to NE. Especially if that 1 year is less than stellar.


Scoot back? How is he scooting back if he's under contract?


I don't know. It's Cleveland. Are coaches anymore bound by the contract than the organization is? If the organization can fire a coach at will, only being on the hook for paying him the remainder of his salary, can't a coach quit and forego that money?

Also, I know a team doesn't have to allow a coach to interview with another team for an equivalent level position. But they do have to make some allowance if its for a 'promotion'? If the Pats were going to officially make him the HC/GM.. does the GM part count as a "promotion"?

Admittedly I'm not particularly knowledgeable about NFL employment law, so my scenario may not even be possible. But, having watched this team for 30+ years, if such a thing IS possible, no matter how remote... it dang well probably will happen.


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I saw that rofl


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So we're not getting Dinwiddie? $8.50/mo right down the tubes!

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Apparently Grossi didn't verify his source before putting it out there... willynilly


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Apparently Grossi didn't verify his source before putting it out there... willynilly


Not gonna lie.... If it wasn't Grossi, I'd be more angry at the fake source.


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Who is to say that Paul DePodesta doesn't put in long hours from his home office? Working from home is still work. This seems to be a problem with the non-Paul DePodesta people and their situation more than anything.

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Imagine that.


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This seems to be a problem with the non-Paul DePodesta people and their situation more than anything.


Precisely.


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Mmmmmm hmmmm....


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Imagine that.



So... people in Berea are disgruntled because the "baseball" guy is NOT more involved? superconfused


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Imagine that.



So... people in Berea are disgruntled because the "baseball" guy is NOT more involved? superconfused



Or because he gets paid a lot of money and gets to live in San Diego?

Jealousy is a real thing.

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Well considering that both of those guys were here in Cleveland with him...then went to Atlanta with him...and are now with him in San Fran. I think it is reasonable to say that it would be Shanny's Offense.

Hey...that doesn't mean they won't try to bring in wrinkles of their own...But the Philosophy,Language, Play Design and Execution would probably hold fast to the Shanahan Offense.


Shanahan could block the move.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Well considering that both of those guys were here in Cleveland with him...then went to Atlanta with him...and are now with him in San Fran. I think it is reasonable to say that it would be Shanny's Offense.

Hey...that doesn't mean they won't try to bring in wrinkles of their own...But the Philosophy,Language, Play Design and Execution would probably hold fast to the Shanahan Offense.


Shanahan could block the move.


100%. He blocked Mike LaFleur's potential move to Green Bay last year to be the OC for his brother.

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John Dorsey is talking to Daryl again. rofl


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Well considering that both of those guys were here in Cleveland with him...then went to Atlanta with him...and are now with him in San Fran. I think it is reasonable to say that it would be Shanny's Offense.

Hey...that doesn't mean they won't try to bring in wrinkles of their own...But the Philosophy,Language, Play Design and Execution would probably hold fast to the Shanahan Offense.


Shanahan could block the move.


I don't recall the exact date, but I want to say it was the day of or day after Dorsey stepped away that Zagura on CBD was talking to the beat writer for the 49ers about Shanahan and those guys. They talked about how tight the 3 of them were, and have been. Sounded like they've been together since waaaaay back and how he blocked LaFleur from going to work with his brother.

It's probably going to take a huge amount to pry anyone from there.


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GC. I'm tired of all the namby pamby losing stuff, and the Browns don't even have a freaking GM let alone a coach! And everybody knows they are days/hours away from doing the wrong thing Again!,
("all while trying to do the right thing") Again!

Maybe the Browns should stop trying to do the right thing!
They've been trying to do the right thing since 2006, and since Haslam bought the team, and look where that has gotten them.

With that said, rofl maybe, (Oh Lord somebody STOP ME BEFORE I SAY THIS!,) rofl
Maybe they should try and get Hue Jackson back?

( I DON'T MEAN IT! I DON'T MEAN IT! I was only kiddin, don't put me through that again,)
Somebody think of SOMETHING!

Oh, This team needs a STRONG PERSONALITY, maybe someone to just run roughshod through the organization and NOT WORK WITH ANYBODY! A real A-word,


May not "seem" like the right thing to do, But GOSH BLESSED!!!

They have been doing the right thing for DECADES now and NOTHING has panned out, NOTHING!!!

Lord help us.

Maybe the Browns should stop trying to do the right thing, they've been trying the right thing for years now, and look what that has gotten them!
Maybe the Browns should stop trying to do the Right Thing! They've been trying to do the right thing for Years and look where that has got them!
Maybe the Browns should STOP trying to do the right thing, They've been trying to be correct for years now and it hasn't gotten them Anything!!

Maybe the Browns should Stop trying to do the RIGHT THING?? They've been trying to do the RIGHT THING for years now and look what that has gotten them?? !!!

I'll kick you outta this house if that's the clothes your gonna wea-r-r--; ahem!

Maybe the Browns should STOP trying to do the RIGHT thing, they've been trying that for YEARS now, and we all see where that has gotten them!


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Hey there fella... let's take a deep breath. Good, just like that... good.. ok... now let's step away from anything that's sharp and put down the meth pipe.... lol


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Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
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Imagine that.



So... people in Berea are disgruntled because the "baseball" guy is NOT more involved? superconfused


some people appreciate the dedication it takes to be a part of the community and show up to work in the building. Others not so much.


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Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
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Well considering that both of those guys were here in Cleveland with him...then went to Atlanta with him...and are now with him in San Fran. I think it is reasonable to say that it would be Shanny's Offense.

Hey...that doesn't mean they won't try to bring in wrinkles of their own...But the Philosophy,Language, Play Design and Execution would probably hold fast to the Shanahan Offense.


Shanahan could block the move.


I don't recall the exact date, but I want to say it was the day of or day after Dorsey stepped away that Zagura on CBD was talking to the beat writer for the 49ers about Shanahan and those guys. They talked about how tight the 3 of them were, and have been. Sounded like they've been together since waaaaay back and how he blocked LaFleur from going to work with his brother.

It's probably going to take a huge amount to pry anyone from there.


All three were working for the Browns when Kyle Shanahan was our offensive coordinator and all three were with the Falcons. . .

If anything he blocks the move, gives them a raise, and calls it a day.

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Sounds like our hire will be made within 48 hours


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Sounds like our hire will be made within 48 hours
This is both a relief and terrifying at the same time.


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Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
Apparently Grossi didn't verify his source before putting it out there... willynilly


It was probably that dude on Twitter with 11 a hundred or so followers.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Imagine that.



So... people in Berea are disgruntled because the "baseball" guy is NOT more involved? superconfused


some people appreciate the dedication it takes to be a part of the community and show up to work in the building. Others not so much.


I understand the sentiment. But I would hope everyone in Berea is more concerned with getting results than making sure Milton gets his piece of cake and his red stapler back.

Now if their complaint is that what DePo is contributing in terms of his production doesn't justify his influence, that to me is different.


All that aside.. that's a heckuva commute to be flying from San Diego to Cleveland 2-3 times a week. Being an analytics guru, I bet he's figured out how to maximize the heck out of his air miles!


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i expect our HC hire to be one of the wtf variety, like whats his name that just got hired by the giants.


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i expect our HC hire to be one of the wtf variety, like whats his name that just got hired by the giants.


You mean like when they named Freddie Kitchens head Coach?!


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exactly that bro. it absolutely fit the criteria of a wtf hire.

but most of us were blinded by the success.


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The use of analytics and flying back and forth to Cleveland 2 or 3 times a week is an oxymoron in and of itself.

He must only apply it when it comes to sports.


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John Dorsey is talking to Daryl again. rofl




The guy can do what he does from the other side of the world. He doesn't have to punch a clock. I know Cleveland is a time clock type of town, but he can relay info from anywhere. It doesn't matter how much time you put in to a job or project. Time spent on the job isn't the measure value.


Not to demean anyone, but most anybody can hire in and work in a car plant or steelmill. Hard work for sure and I respect the work they do. Not everybody can do that for long. Not everybody can do what Depo does, or your Accountant does, or what you Dentist does. Anybody want me to do your next root canal or tooth extraction?

I couldn't do a root canal, but I could pull your tooth. Between vice-grips and plyers, I could get it done. I would probably need a needle nose to pull out the crumbled pieces.

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John Dorsey is talking to Daryl again. rofl




The guy can do what he does from the other side of the world. He doesn't have to punch a clock. I know Cleveland is a time clock type of town, but he can relay info from anywhere.


A concept lost on some, unfortunately.


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Shocking.

The same people who hate Paul DePodesta because they're "football guys" and don't grasp all that analytics mumbo jumbo, are most likely the same group who think that you have to punch a time card and be butts in seats every day to do "work". Working remotely from home? What is that? And he probably just sits on his computer looking at NUMBERS all day! Hah, what a nerd!


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John Dorsey is talking to Daryl again. rofl




The guy can do what he does from the other side of the world. He doesn't have to punch a clock. I know Cleveland is a time clock type of town, but he can relay info from anywhere.


A concept lost on some, unfortunately.


Right, wrong, or indifferent this is precisely the culture Haslam creates - one of division. It all starts and ends with him.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
The use of analytics and flying back and forth to Cleveland 2 or 3 times a week is an oxymoron in and of itself.

He must only apply it when it comes to sports.


But does he wear orange and brown darnit?!!!

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Maybe when he has the time to fly into town.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
exactly that bro. it absolutely fit the criteria of a wtf hire.

but most of us were blinded by the success.


How's this for a wtf hire?

We DON'T hire ANYONE for HC! Let's try it out for a season.

The OC is in charge when the offense is on the field, the DC when the defense is, and ST when St is on the field. When it comes to penalties and decisions to challenge, let one of the analytics guys run the numbers real quick and go off of that.


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whats crazy is that it would probably be more successful than the head coaches we've had making those decisions.

a rather sad reality.


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Sounds like there are just a bunch of petty people that are jealous that they aren't in Jimmy's inner-circle, yet feel they should be because they are there in the office more often.

Sounds like a bunch of children. Want Jimmy to pat you on the head and say 'Good Boy'? Then do better work with all that extra time you're in the office.


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exactly that bro. it absolutely fit the criteria of a wtf hire.

but most of us were blinded by the success.


How's this for a wtf hire?

We DON'T hire ANYONE for HC! Let's try it out for a season.

The OC is in charge when the offense is on the field, the DC when the defense is, and ST when St is on the field. When it comes to penalties and decisions to challenge, let one of the analytics guys run the numbers real quick and go off of that.



It honestly can't hurt.... just need someone to decide when to go for it on 4th down versus sending the punt unit out there.


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