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I'll put this here, too...

Figured I'd start a separate thread now that we know the GM.

Berry receives a contract length matching Stefaski and DePodesta. Sounds like what SF did.


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A reminder from a couple of weeks ago...


Although....has DePo been extended?


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I like this. Good to see all the gloom and doom posters claiming that we were "damaged goods" were wrong again on this one.

McAdoo as QB coach next? Would people be happy with that hire if we brought OBJ's former coach on board?


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Saw what you want about Jimmy Haslam, and there a bunch of bad things to say, but his record of hiring minorities to high level positions is stellar. Good on him.

Also, a five year deal mirrors Stefanski's deal.

Andrew Berry always made the most sense. He knows the personnel guys and the data guys. He gets along with Jimmy Haslam and Paul DePodesta and was involved in the interview process last year with Kevin Stefanski.

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie

Although....has DePo been extended?


Yep, 5 years as well. See my post above.

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A reminder from a couple of weeks ago...


Although....has DePo been extended?


Is Sashi Mufasa in the clouds here, lol?


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I don't see anything referring to that.


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Originally Posted By: CleVeLaNd_sTrife
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A reminder from a couple of weeks ago...


Although....has DePo been extended?


Is Sashi Mufasa in the clouds here, lol?


rofl


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Now, give them time to do it right.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
I don't see anything referring to that.


Look at the Charles Robinson tweet above. Maybe I'm reading that and assuming DePo was extended 5 years because of the way it's written?

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Yeah, it just references alignment. I'm assuming that means more about process alignment than contractual alignment, but who knows?


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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
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I don't see anything referring to that.


Look at the Charles Robinson tweet above. Maybe I'm reading that and assuming DePo was extended 5 years because of the way it's written?


I don't see any deal about Paul DePodesta in the above Tweet. My guess is that DePodesta's new deal will be reported separately. DePodesta said that he will "be here".

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DePo played football at Harvard.
Berry played football at Harvard.
Stefanski played football at Penn.

About time we got "Football Guys" running things in Berea!


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cfrs wins again! Must be a bad cold! rofl

(For the record, I don't think I ever beat him to a post)


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Only in football can hiring Ivy Leaguers be considered outside the box thinking.

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I'm curious to see what happens to Wolf and Highsmith, who worked with Berry through two drafts. And if any Eagles' personnel staff transition over...not necessarily now, but post-draft.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
I'm curious to see what happens to Wolf and Highsmith, who worked with Berry through two drafts. And if any Eagles' personnel staff transition over...not necessarily now, but post-draft.


They've both worked with Berry before, so that is definitely a good thing. If I had to guess they will both be gone after the draft. They are both Dorsey's guys through and through. I would prefer to keep at least Eliot Wolf as he seems bright and is young enough where he might not yet be set in his ways.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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I'm curious to see what happens to Wolf and Highsmith, who worked with Berry through two drafts. And if any Eagles' personnel staff transition over...not necessarily now, but post-draft.


They've both worked with Berry before, so that is definitely a good thing. If I had to guess they will both be gone after the draft. They are both Dorsey's guys through and through. I would prefer to keep at least Eliot Wolf as he seems bright and is young enough where he might not yet be set in his ways.


I think Wolf has a chance to stay.

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Kinda where we figured we'd be when all this started isn't it?

Roll up your sleeves gentlemen...

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I think Berry becoming the youngest minority in NFL history (and youngest overall) to become a GM is a pretty cool part of this story too.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Now, give them time to do it right.


Seems like it will be at least 5 years. At least it should be.

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Hire people with developed interpersonal skills and the ability to receive new information without taking it as a criticism. That should be the goal of most people hiring a person for a high level position. It seems like we have done that.

Now somebody go lock the owner in a closet.

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Now, give them time to do it right.


Seems like it will be at least 5 years. At least it should be.


Which means "just under two".

I'm holding the O/U at 30 games before the cannings begin.


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Naa...it's going to work this time.

I think it is a pretty good grouping.


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Now, give them time to do it right.


Seems like it will be at least 5 years. At least it should be.


Which means "just under two".

I'm holding the O/U at 30 games before the cannings begin.



Everyone in unison ... "WE'LL TAKE THE UNDER!"

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Ok. Another “To Do” item checked off. On to the next.

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Oh boy. That's not going to fit the narrative the Browns blew it and Paton rejected us.

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Oh boy. That's not going to fit the narrative the Browns blew it and Paton rejected us.


When it was reported Friday that Paton had bowed out, MKC was on the radio saying she believed it was because he found out he wasn't the Browns' first choice.

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"spend ample time shaping up their shared culture goal. There are bound to be some guys who won't fit."

Seems cryptic.


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If you look at our roster, there is no reason why we can't be successful this year. We now have a more strategically sound approach to the future as well because of analytics.

Did the hype get to us last year? Yes.

Did we under preform last year? Yes.

The 49ers were supposed to be the darkhorse candidate for the SB LAST year. It didn't happen and everyone wrote them off.

I hope the same thing happens to us going into 2020.


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Originally Posted By: Dave
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Oh boy. That's not going to fit the narrative the Browns blew it and Paton rejected us.


When it was reported Friday that Paton had bowed out, MKC was on the radio saying she believed it was because he found out he wasn't the Browns' first choice.


Not really a fan of Mary Bae filtering the news to what she thinks it means....much like Grossi and Ruiter. That said, Berry was tied to this thing from the very beginning so it wouldn't be at all a leap to go back to that narrative once Paton was 'officially' out of the picture.


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Originally Posted By: Dave
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Oh boy. That's not going to fit the narrative the Browns blew it and Paton rejected us.


When it was reported Friday that Paton had bowed out, MKC was on the radio saying she believed it was because he found out he wasn't the Browns' first choice.


And the reports from Charles Robinson as posted by Memphis seem to indicate she was correct.

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The triumvirate is complete.

Triumvirate

(in ancient Rome) a group of three men holding power, in particular ( the First Triumvirate ) the unofficial coalition of Julius Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus in 60 BC and ( the Second Triumvirate ) a coalition formed by Antony, Lepidus, and Octavian in 43 BC.


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I wonder how that worked out?


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Oh boy. That's not going to fit the narrative the Browns blew it and Paton rejected us.


Yep.

We wanted a 2nd with the guy because he was good. As the 2nd interview went on, it became clear we weren't as hot on Paton as some think. He pulled out out of the process because he got the feeling we weren't going to hire him.

Had we wanted to hire him and he pulled out because he didn't think we would hire him, somebody would have stepped in.


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