Please don't pretend to understand my motives. I didn't make the initial post to rile people up. I made it because I am hoping that our guys will work out on their own.
Later, I said I was encouraged after someone told me that there were reports of Baker and OBJ planning to work out.
Some of you just look to start fights w/me and I'm tired of it. I would gladly never have a conversation w/you again. That way we don't have to subject others to this nonsense. Deal?
Please don't pretend to understand my motives. I didn't make the initial post to rile people up. I made it because I am hoping that our guys will work out on their own.
Later, I said I was encouraged after someone told me that there were reports of Baker and OBJ planning to work out.
Some of you just look to start fights w/me and I'm tired of it. I would gladly never have a conversation w/you again. That way we don't have to subject others to this nonsense. Deal?
So you admit to knowing they have workouts planned, yet still complain about OBJ being in London. And posting concerns is one thing. Posting about how New England is doing it, and wording it as "the Browns obviously are proven and the Patriots aren't" sarcasm is where people get annoyed. You say 1 positive about Baker, then trash everything he does after that. He isn't perfect. He needs to improve as a player and a person, just like most everybody else.
I don't look to start fights. I honestly don't post much, and it's been probably weeks since I said anything to you, but I will when you start conflicts and drama they cry victim.
OMG ..Is Beckham still coming to Mandatory Mini-Camp ? I thought it was over ... Isn't it about time to close and lock this thread ? Unless, of course, you are referring to mini-camp 2020 ...
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The thing is, we don't know what it means. We can only speculate.
Prior to that tweet when the vacation started for the Browns it was said by both Baker and OBJ that they will be working out together in California where both are living during the vacation. Among other Browns getting together with Baker. In between his Wedding of course.
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Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I saw the report about OBJ catching passes from Kaep on a sport's show earlier today. When did it happen. And why was he catching passes from Kaep rather than Baker?
No one else has even wondered about that? Well, cfrs probably has. LOL
Odell Beckham: Hip injury “prevents me from opening up and sprinting”
Posted by Josh Alper on September 5, 2019, 3:21 PM EDT
The Browns didn’t list wide receiver Odell Beckham on Wednesday’s injury report and head coach Freddie Kitchens said that the wideout is ready to go for Sunday’s game against the Titans, but Beckham painted a less rosy picture about his condition on Thursday.
Beckham spoke to reporters from the Browns facility and said that the hip injury he’s been dealing with in recent weeks is “something that prevents me from opening up and sprinting.”
“It’s like an extremely fast car with the alignment off,” Beckham said, via Cleveland.com. “The car can still go, but it’s dangerous.”
That’s not an ideal description for a team’s top wide receiver a few days ahead of the season opener, but Beckham said he hopes the adrenaline of a game will help him find the top gear that he’s been missing. That suggests he’ll be in the lineup despite any difficulties he might be experiencing and that his effectiveness in his Browns debut will be something to monitor come Sunday. link
just came here to say that Antonio Brown is making OBJ look like an honor roll student.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
NFL to probe Browns star Odell Beckham Jr. after he wore $350,000 watch while playing the Titans and violated a league rule against wearing hard objects on the field
That $350,000 watch worn by the Cleveland Browns' star receiver Odell Beckham Jr. in Sunday's loss to the Tennesse Titans got the NFL's attention.
Wearing the Richard Mille time piece violated a league rule against wearing hard objects on the field, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport tweeted on Thursday.
League officials now want to have a word with Beckham and the team.
'WR Odell Beckham Jr, who took the field with $350K Richard Mille watch, violated a league rule prohibiting hard objects, I'm told,' wrote Rapoport in the tweet,' noting as well that 'there is no rule against jewelry.'
Cleveland Browns wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. underwent surgery Tuesday to repair a hip and groin injury that hampered him throughout this season. Dr. Bill Meyers performed the surgery in Philadelphia.
Beckham's recovery timeline figures to be similar to that of Browns running back Kareem Hunt, who underwent sports hernia surgery in training camp but was ready to play after serving an eight-game suspension. Beckham had 74 receptions, 1,035 receiving yards and four touchdowns this season playing through the injury. The Browns also said Pro Bowl receiver Jarvis Landry will not have surgery on a hip injury that slowed him during Cleveland's 6-10 season. Landry recently underwent an MRI and consulted with a specialist. He's been cleared to play in the Pro Bowl. If he had needed surgery, which Landry called "a last resort,'' he could have been sidelined for eight months. He had a team-high 83 receptions for 1,174 yards and six touchdowns last season.
Let’s hope he can be at as much as possible ... if for no other reason than to quell any drama again
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I still scratch my head at how two receivers, let alone just OBJ, could have 1,000+ yards on THIS team last year. From drops, to bad passes, to route errors, to poor play-calling...and a 1,000 yard rusher to boot. Plus whatever effect these injuries Odell and Landry experienced all year long had. It gives me hope that the new staff may not have to make major tweaks to the system to put us on a route to success. IMHO, better game-planning and play-calling will make for a major upgrade in results, along with personnel improvement. Well, maybe those ARE major tweaks!
I had the same questions about big yards given the line, the massive interceptions, Freddie, and all the other circumstances. With better prep work and coaching, I expect to realize more upside than I probably have any right to expect. But, like the Beach Boys, "Wouldn't it be nice. . . ?" Hope that I am surprised. If we overachieved, not sure what we can realistically expect. But, I am willing to risk it.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Maybe, even with their injuries, they weren't as bad as some people made them out to be.
It's all about expectations, as fans, we went into the season expecting an unstoppable juggernaut, a Blitzkrieg that would sweep aside all opposition. What we got was two very very good 1000 yard plus receivers. Very good, but merely mortal. Football is a game played by mortals, so perhaps we should not be expecting Gods.
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What amazes me the most is that we now know both of them were injured. Throughout the season we saw a lot of people that seemed to unjustly give them hell. Some even after knowing both were injured.
I believe some didn't even believe OBJ was injured and was just using it as an excuse. Hopefully now that it's obvious both were injured people will shut the hell up about their production. Considering their injuries, with both getting over 1000 yards under those conditions, I felt was not only a pretty great feat, but also displayed their toughness and dedication to the team.
I'm not a fan of OBJ's antics like most. But he's not out there getting suspended, arrested or making disparaging comments about the team.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
There's the rub.... his antics aren't even really antics. He isn't half the drama that gets stirred up around him; almost all of it is just overblown blabbering. So much overthinking of things by people; so much faux-drama.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I'm not one who really thinks his antics are that serious. Some of them are a little immature and I would rather not see them, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't serious and it certainly doesn't enter into whether I want him here or not.
He's a great talent who was injured this year. Anyone trying to be objective would certainly take that injury into account in regards to his concentration and production on the field.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Agreed. I'd like to see what OBJ and the rest of our O weapons can do with a good offensive scheme and coaches that know what they are doing. I wouldn't trade him at this point but you don't know what our new regime is thinking and what offers they may get.
There's the rub.... his antics aren't even really antics. He isn't half the drama that gets stirred up around him; almost all of it is just overblown blabbering. So much overthinking of things by people; so much faux-drama.
A smart coach would recognize that most of OBJ's antics are fabricated by the media.
I think we have a smart coach. I think we keep OBJ.
Also... Isn't it time for a new OBJ thread? This one is old and very confusing. Mods can we start a new one?
As a Browns fan and supporter, let's get into your feelings on the new coach and direction of the team. How are you feeling about it?
You know, it's going on year seven for me now, but this business teaches you that anybody's replaceable and there's always going to be new coaches coming in and new staff, unless you're in one of those places where it just happens to not be like that. But where I've been at, unfortunately I've been on some teams, not-so-good teams, so we've kind of reestablished it. And with the new coach coming in, just seeing what he did with the Minnesota Vikings for a long time with Thielen and Diggs. These are people who I've watched closely on their film, and just seeing the things that he did and meeting him and seeing where his mind's at for Jarvis and myself of how this will all work out, I have a good feeling about it, you know?
And I'm always optimistic and looking on the brighter side of things. And I'm hoping that it's a tremendous season for us. We were so close last year, but yet so far away, and it shows you how being so close can land you from 10-6 to 6-10, you know? It's really a game of inches. So it's just little things we need to correct. I'm excited about the opportunity, excited to work on it.
Something I recently talked with Jarvis about was you and him recreating that Thielen and Diggs sort of role in Kevin Stefanski's offense. Is that the goal?
Yep. I think that's the plan, and I'm hoping that that's the game plan. It takes an army to get a team right. There's no one player who—it's not basketball. Basketball is a little different. One player can can dominate an entire game, offense, defense, and the team pitch in here and there and they still could win the game. Football is not like that.
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Baker did some TV recently. He talked about how he got humbled a little bit this past season. Everyone is saying Baker needs to be fixed going into next season. Is that the sense you're getting?
The thing is, people don't get to where they're at by not being who they were to get here. So when people say they need to fix me or they need to fix this person, I don't believe in fixing anybody. Improving somebody is definitely more the word that I would say. I think myself as well had a slice of humble pie this year, because I was hurt all year. I couldn't really say I was hurt. I didn't want to make it seem like I'm having an excuse, but I really couldn't do what I wanted. I just couldn't move the way that I wanted to, so I think that's why I'm more motivated now than ever. This is probably day nine or 10 after surgery and I'm just starting to move around and just mentally get ready for the process all over again, and just put my best foot forward. So I don't think there's really changing anybody, but I definitely think you'll see a more focused, improved version of himself. Not what someone else wants him to be. And myself as well next year.
Ole Joker Cleats. If he ain't at voluntary camp this year after that embarrassment of a season, I would get rid of him for anything I could get. Please don't recite to me his 1000 yard stat absent a list of his big, game changing catches last year. Hope Stafanski can get this guy going. Otherwise, I think Joker Cleats will run him and his nascent HC career over before it starts.
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