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What gives you that indication?

Randall posted a cryptic tweet.



I wonder what that is about.

This is what Joe Schobert had to say about Dorsey and his agent, "I let my agent handle all this kind of stuff, but my understanding is we haven’t gotten any offers so can’t really build on it from there."

Berry, who has had the job for five minutes, is meeting with Schobert's agent.

Dorsey had all of last off-season and the season to sign Schobert to an extension and didn't do it.

If a player reaches this point of the off-season they should probably just wait to hit the free agent market. So comparing Dorsey and Berry with regards to Schobert seems unfair.

If it was a good thing to sign him last season, it's a good thing to sign him now. Stop with the double standard.

It's fairly simple. Both Dorsey and Berry thought the price tag for Joe was too high. Neither made him an offer. They both did the same thing and took the same action.

And while the new team management under GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski would like to have Schobert back, they know the time has passed for them to make sure the standout LB doesn’t hit the open market. That’s not a situation the new GM likes, and he made it clear in his press conference here at the 2020 NFL Scouting Combine that he will do whatever he can to avoid letting important players get to this stage.

Berry was asked about being more proactive in the future to avoid situations like what has evolved with Schobert.

“That is one of the things that we believe at our core that we are going to be aggressive in pre-market extensions for players that we view as pillar players, long-term fixtures for our organization,” Berry responded.

He later brought up the same exact term “pre-market extension” when asked about the importance of continuity in the team-building process.

As for Schobert’s potential to return, Berry noted “we are going to spend some time here with his representation this week”.

Do you have some info we don't that you like to share? We have a quote from Joe about no contract from Dorsey. That's it up to this point.

I have the same information you do.

Still, Berry represents renewed hope for Schobert remaining with the Browns. Berry was the vice president of player personnel for the Browns when they drafted Schobert in the fourth round out of the University of Wisconsin in 2016.

In an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio that aired Friday, Schobert said he has yet to have a conversation with new Browns coach Kevin Stefanski, but he has talked to Berry. Furthermore, Schobert revealed he has a reason to believe his contract situation will soon be discussed between his agent, Joe Panos, and Berry.

″[Berry] said he’d be reaching out and talk to my agent over the course of the next couple weeks,” said Schobert, a full-time starter at middle linebacker the past three years who played in the Pro Bowl after the 2017 season. “I’m sure they’ll probably talk at the [Feb. 25-March 2 NFL Scouting] Combine or something.

Get back to me when Joe hits the FA market.

If only Dorsey would have would have had a crystal ball to tell him he would be fired at seasons end......

That's the entire problem with all of this, the changing of FO each January and it's been my position from the very beginning of all of this back-n-forth and the reason why I think we should have addressed this last offseason.

I guess every GM who are just now talking to players about a new contract suck, huh?

And all Joe said was that Dorsey, "hadn't made an offer".

If you are referring to Berry here, no. Not if they just started working for the Browns and can now officially talk to pending FAs. But in general, if a GM has been with a team and is looking to extend a player just before FA and is only now laying the groundwork to do it (now being the beginning of NFL calendar)....then absolutely. That's a ridiculous way to go about business and negotiations.

Correct. When he had all last offseason and during the season to make one and start the negotiating process. But alas, nothing. He did it with Tretter, why not Joe?

You're the one trying to choose one of the GM's to blame for the exact same outcome.

And if nothing happens now with the new GM you're going to decide that it's all Dorsey's fault rather than consider it could well be that both men simply felt his agent was asking for too much money?

See, in all of this that's the only place we have a disconnect. Sometimes people ask a price that is so far apart from what you value it at, that there's just no reasonable staring point for negotiations.

And if nothing happens now with the new GM you're going to decide that it's all Dorsey's fault rather than consider it could well be that both men simply felt his agent was asking for too much money?

See, in all of this that's the only place we have a disconnect. Sometimes people ask a price that is so far apart from what you value it at, that there's just no reasonable staring point for negotiations.

You seem to wish to find someone to blame here. I don't think that's necessarily true unless you consider it to be Joe's agent.

Berry hasn't signed him. If the Browns didn't think he was asking for too much, a deal would be in place.

Do you have any evidence

Or Schobert just wants to see if someone is willing to throw crazy money at him now that he's made it to free agency.

Its possible, but a bird in then hand is worth two in the bush.

IMO we either valued him at X and he thinks that's to low, or we didn't value him at all and said go get a deal and well see if we want to match it. **I don't think the latter is what happened though - you really don't want someone else doing your bidding.

Joe doesn't have to hope for the two in the bush. The bushes will be coming to him now.

During the season, I agree with the idea. Now, it's not like the bird in his hand is at risk of flying far. He's healthy and free. He's going to get paid somewhere.

If only Dorsey would have would have had a crystal ball to tell him he would be fired at seasons end......

I have no idea what you mean here. Are you trying to say that Dorsey had no idea what Joe and his agent were asking for? Because that's not what it says. It says Dorsey didn't make any offer.

That's exactly the same thing Berry is doing. Berry knows the price tag and rather than make offers to his agent, he's letting him hit the open market.

That's not "meeting with his agent".

If Haslam and Depodesta wanted Joe signed, they would insisted that he would be signed...end of story.

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