DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns GM Andrew Berry will listen to trade offers for Odell Beckham Jr. and others

Good post. I agree w/your take on this. I am not blaming Berry for allowing Joe to test the market. Joe's agent might be asking for too much money. Berry might eventually sign him. Maybe they don't think Joe is very good. We just don't know.

My contention is all of those things were also true when Dorsey was here, yet he was criticized a lot more than Berry has been.

At the end of the day, I hope the Browns keep Joe because I think he is a good player. But, as you said.......we really don't know the particulars of the situation.

There is absolutely no way to know that.

Berry is 32 years old. A kid.

I can prove some of the things I said, too.

The difference is that not one person said a word to you. I didn't yell at you. I didn't cuss at you. I proposed an alternative scenario and said that neither of our points can't be confirmed by a link.

So, what happens? Hamfist freaks out w/an angry outburst. cfrs jumps in and it's on.

This type of thing happens far too frequently on this board. Some things are said over and over and no one challenges those opinions and they become "fact," while other opinions are assaulted because they don't fall in line w/others.

I am not trying to stop you from voicing your opinion. I am offering an opposing opinion that also has some factual evidence. But, in the end.....we are giving on our opinion on a public message board.

It would be preferable if people could voice their opinions freely on here w/out all of the assaults.

This is absolute [censored] and you have ZERO proof of it. You, who loves to pontificate about using facts.

Pardon me for posting on this message board...

Consider it done.

Dorsey put together a top notch team in KC, yet KC decided to part ways. Why was that?

My issue is the VERBIAGE you use. “Cowardly”, as an example. You make a point then have to disparage a person you don’t know, or have ever met. I double dog dare you to say this kind of thing to a guys face.

A testament to his success. Being good isn't reserved for the aged.

But yes, we will see.

I have to disagree on part of your post bro. IMO the 3rd, 4th, and 5th receivers are all very important. What happens when we have injuries at WR. OBJ has been hurt a lot the last few years. Right now we will have a HUGE drop off if either OBJ or Landry gets hurt again. (Which with our luck will happen to both of them.) Right now that would make our starters Hodge, and either Ratley or Taylor. That's a scary thought for me.

Good points. I agree.

Everyone who has paid attention pretty much already knows the answer to this. There was a power struggle between Andy Reid and Dorsey. Since Dorsey had already built a great team for Reid to coach, ownership decided to stick with Reid. When the HC tries to make a power play on the GM something has to give.

Since you have been so hell bent on using this as one of your claims Dorsey doesn't work well with others I thought a little clarity might help. But I doubt it.

Or it could just be another bad hire by Haslam who has a very long list of those on his resume'. As you said, we'll see.

Im done playin football! I just wanna be an announcer now

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Haslam has no clue what he's doing. The fact that he fired you is a better indicator than the fact he hired you. I mean unless you can't even get a job in the NFL anymore and had to move on to something else.

Wife just can't stand his voice. And insight. I like his insight, and I think it's great that he, as what I would call an average q.b., can offer that insight.

Haslam has no clue what he's doing. The fact that he fired you is a better indicator than the fact he hired you. I mean unless you can't even get a job in the NFL anymore and had to move on to something else.

Being paid millions for staying home waiting for the perfect opportunity is the smart thing to do as of now. Tell your friend.

I don't mind Romo calling a game. My wife can't stand him though.

i mean damn OBJ's contract is nice, but Romo just got 17 mill a year to call the games! man oh man thats a pay day!

I can't stand him either.

Sounds like a high school kid at a high school dance.

"I think he's going to ask her out...oohhh, he's inching closer...he should really go in for a kiss here...oohhh I don't know...the other guy is playing back seeing if he's going to make a move...oohhh...ahhh...ohhhh...I don't know...I don't know..."

Crikey, it's just about the worst.

Everyone who has paid attention pretty much already knows the answer to this. There was a power struggle between Andy Reid and Dorsey. Since Dorsey had already built a great team for Reid to coach, ownership decided to stick with Reid. When the HC tries to make a power play on the GM something has to give.

Since you have been so hell bent on using this as one of your claims Dorsey doesn't work well with others I thought a little clarity might help. But I doubt it.

So he couldn't work well with the head coach.

I like Higgins but let's but let's male it clear what he is and what he isn't. He's JAG.

In his best season he had 572 receiving yards and 4td's. That's not terrible or anything. But it's not like there aren't a lot of guys out there that have done that.

The good part is that he's still on his rookie contract so he is very reasonably priced for a fairly productive guy.

If Haslam and Depodesta wanted Joe signed, they would insisted that he would be signed...end of story.

About the only improvement i see as of right now with this bunch ... all 3 levels are on the same page .... Kev is one of them ....

Thats good but is WAY OVERRATED on how well they’ll do ... getting along helps but its not even close to the be all end all ....