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All companies have pretty much moved to that now.

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well, it's 420 (cases) in Japan rofl


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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asi...ovid19-12509920


South Korea's central bank burns, quarantines cash in COVID-19 precaution


SEOUL: South Korea's central bank said on Friday (Mar 6) it was quarantining bank notes for two weeks to remove any traces of coronavirus and even burning some as part of efforts to stem the outbreak.

The Bank of Korea (BOK) said it is also putting currency notes through a high-heat "laundering" process, as it always has, before releasing them for circulation.

"For all cash coming to the central bank from local banks, the Bank of Korea will keep it in a safe for two weeks, given that the virus usually dies out after nine days," a BOK official told Reuters.

By early Friday, South Korea had confirmed 196 new cases infected by the coronavirus and a total of 6,284, leading almost 100 countries to impose restrictions on South Korean travellers.

Routine procedures for incinerating dirty notes collected from all parts of the country have also been tightened in order to combat the outbreak in the country with the largest number of coronavirus cases outside of China, the official said, asking not to be named because he was not authorised to speak to the media.

The routine process for handling cash in South Korea involves heating notes to 150 degrees Celsius for two to three seconds, then keeping them at 42 degrees after packaging, which effectively disinfects the cash, the bank said.

Earlier, a Chinese media report said its government has told lenders to disinfect and store banknotes in a dry place for seven days as part of the battle against the virus.






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It does seem like they missed the mark on how many tests would be available by the end of this week by about half....

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At briefings on Capitol Hill and at the White House, administration officials -- including the Food and Drug Administration head and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar -- laid out expectations for at least one million tests becoming available.
"The estimates we're getting from industry right now -- by the end of this week, close to a million tests will be able to be performed," FDA chief Dr. Stephen Hahn said during a Monday briefing.

On Thursday, Azar said he believed there would be a nationwide capacity to test 475,000 people by the end of the week. Azar said he hoped a private company, IDT, would ramp up to a million or a million and a half people by the end of next week.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/politics/mike-pence-coronavirus-testing-trump/index.html



As of 6 hours ago, there has been 1895 tests performed in the United States-about 10 percent positive

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Corona virus has caused a run on toilet paper.


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No, panic did that.

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CDC now advising people older than 60 and those with health issues to stay at home


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The US is starting to look like an elementary school kid with chicken pox. It used to be relegated to the coasts, but the interior is starting to fill in. A number of new states with first cases today. I expect all 50 states no later than Wednesday.


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The US is starting to look like an elementary school kid with chicken pox. It used to be relegated to the coasts, but the interior is starting to fill in. A number of new states with first cases today. I expect all 50 states no later than Wednesday.


Depends if or when they really start to test.

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Our local school has a planned 4 day weekend coming up; they’re using the days to completely disinfect the schools


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The US is starting to look like an elementary school kid with chicken pox. It used to be relegated to the coasts, but the interior is starting to fill in. A number of new states with first cases today. I expect all 50 states no later than Wednesday.


One in Tulsa, that's disturbing.


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By my count, it looks like it is now in 30 states. 29 of the Lower 48 and Hawaii.


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Woah! That's terrible!!


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
By my count, it looks like it is now in 30 states. 29 of the Lower 48 and Hawaii.







It's gone up from this morning when I looked, 338, to now 377 confirmed in the US.


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But they built it in 3 hours

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By my count, it looks like it is now in 30 states. 29 of the Lower 48 and Hawaii.







It's gone up from this morning when I looked, 338, to now 377 confirmed in the US.


Over 400 now

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The map says 17 deaths now, but it is still not reflecting today's two deaths in Florida... so, at least 19?

Maybe we're updating US data slowly due to the weekend?


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Deaths in Italy are over 230!


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Interesting read..and a couple notes Germany increased 10 fold in a week. Italy has had a bunch of new cases in the last day or two.

Also, I was talking to one of my project foreman and project managers about when we are starting the next phase of renovating the patient rooms in a hospital that I am working on. They said they were told that the project may need to be pushed back because as of Thursday this week, all of their beds were full and they cannot give us the 15-20 double patient rooms and the nurse's station that are in the next phase




https://www.zerohedge.com/health/all-hos...ording-analysis

All Hospital Beds In The US Will Be Filled With Patients 'By About May 8th' Due To Coronavirus: Analysis
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A sobering analysis of how coronavirus is likely to impact the US healthcare system suggests that hospitals will be quickly overwhelmed with patients, and that all available beds will be filled by around May 8th if the virus tracks with Italy's figures and 10% of patients require an ICU.


Medical workers in protective suits attend to coronavirus patients in the intensive care unit of a designated hospital in Wuhan, in China’s Hubei province, last week. (China Daily/Reuters)
Of note, the Straits Times reported last week that thousands of people were waiting for hospital beds in South Korea as the disease surges.

Liz Specht, a PhD in biology and the associate director of Science and Technology for the Good Food Institute laid out her concerns in a lengthy Twitter thread on Friday, which you can see here on Twitter, or continue reading below.





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I think most people aren’t aware of the risk of systemic healthcare failure due to #COVID19 because they simply haven’t run the numbers yet. Let’s talk math. 1/n


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Let’s conservatively assume that there are 2,000 current cases in the US today, March 6th. This is about 8x the number of confirmed (lab-diagnosed) cases. We know there is substantial under-Dx due to lack of test kits; I’ll address implications later of under-/over-estimate. 2/n

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We can expect that we’ll continue to see a doubling of cases every 6 days (this is a typical doubling time across several epidemiological studies). Here I mean *actual* cases. Confirmed cases may appear to rise faster in the short term due to new test kit rollouts.
We’re looking at about 1M US cases by the end of April, 2M by ~May 5, 4M by ~May 11, and so on. Exponentials are hard to grasp, but this is how they go.
As the healthcare system begins to saturate under this case load, it will become increasingly hard to detect, track, and contain new transmission chains. In absence of extreme interventions, this likely won’t slow significantly until hitting >>1% of susceptible population.
What does a case load of this size mean for healthcare system? We’ll examine just two factors — hospital beds and masks — among many, many other things that will be impacted.
The US has about 2.8 hospital beds per 1000 people. With a population of 330M, this is ~1M beds. At any given time, 65% of those beds are already occupied. That leaves about 330k beds available nationwide (perhaps a bit fewer this time of year with regular flu season, etc).
Let’s trust Italy’s numbers and assume that about 10% of cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. (Keep in mind that for many patients, hospitalization lasts for *weeks* — in other words, turnover will be *very* slow as beds fill with COVID19 patients).
By this estimate, by about May 8th, all open hospital beds in the US will be filled. (This says nothing, of course, about whether these beds are suitable for isolation of patients with a highly infectious virus.)
If we’re wrong by a factor of two regarding the fraction of severe cases, that only changes the timeline of bed saturation by 6 days in either direction. If 20% of cases require hospitalization, we run out of beds by ~May 2nd.
If only 5% of cases require it, we can make it until ~May 14th. 2.5% gets us to May 20th. This, of course, assumes that there is no uptick in demand for beds from *other* (non-COVID19) causes, which seems like a dubious assumption.
As healthcare system becomes increasingly burdened, Rx shortages, etc, people w/ chronic conditions that are normally well-managed may find themselves slipping into severe states of medical distress requiring intensive care & hospitalization. But let’s ignore that for now.
Alright, so that’s beds. Now masks. Feds say we have a national stockpile of 12M N95 masks and 30M surgical masks (which are not ideal, but better than nothing).
There are about 18M healthcare workers in the US. Let’s assume only 6M HCW are working on any given day. (This is likely an underestimate as most people work most days of the week, but again, I’m playing conservative at every turn.)
As COVID19 cases saturate virtually every state and county, which seems likely to happen any day now, it will soon be irresponsible for all HCWs to not wear a mask. These HCWs would burn through N95 stockpile in 2 days if each HCW only got ONE mask per day.
One per day would be neither sanitary nor pragmatic, though this is indeed what we saw in Wuhan, with HCWs collapsing on their shift from dehydration because they were trying to avoid changing their PPE suits as they cannot be reused.
How quickly could we ramp up production of new masks? Not very fast at all. The vast majority are manufactured overseas, almost all in China. Even when manufactured here in US, the raw materials are predominantly from overseas... again, predominantly from China.
Keep in mind that all countries globally will be going through the exact same crises and shortages simultaneously. We can’t force trade in our favor.
Now consider how these 2 factors – bed and mask shortages – compound each other’s severity. Full hospitals + few masks + HCWs running around between beds without proper PPE = very bad mix.
HCWs are already getting infected even w/ access to full PPE. In the face of PPE limitations this severe, it’s only a matter of time. HCWs will start dropping from the workforce for weeks at a time, leading to a shortage of HCWs that then further compounds both issues above.
We could go on and on about thousands of factors – # of ventilators, or even simple things like saline drip bags. You see where this is going.
Importantly, I cannot stress this enough: even if I’m wrong – even VERY wrong – about core assumptions like % of severe cases or current case #, it only changes the timeline by days or weeks. This is how exponential growth in an immunologically naïve population works.
Undeserved panic does no one any good. But neither does ill-informed complacency. It’s wrong to assuage the public by saying “only 2% will die.” People aren’t adequately grasping the national and global systemic burden wrought by this swift-moving of a disease.
I’m an engineer. This is what my mind does all day: I run back-of-the-envelope calculations to try to estimate order-of-magnitude impacts. I’ve been on high alarm about this disease since ~Jan 19 after reading clinical indicators in the first papers emerging from Wuhan.
Nothing in the last 6 weeks has dampened my alarm in the slightest. To the contrary, we’re seeing abject refusal of many countries to adequately respond or prepare. Of course some of these estimates will be wrong, even substantially wrong.
But I have no reason to think they’ll be orders-of-magnitude wrong. Even if your personal risk of death is very, very low, don’t mock decisions like canceling events or closing workplaces as undue “panic”.
These measures are the bare minimum we should be doing to try to shift the peak – to slow the rise in cases so that healthcare systems are less overwhelmed. Each day that we can delay an extra case is a big win for the HC system.
And yes, you really should prepare to buckle down for a bit. All services and supply chains will be impacted. Why risk the stress of being ill-prepared?
Worst case, I’m massively wrong and you now have a huge bag of rice and black beans to burn through over the next few months and enough Robitussin to trip out.
One more thought: you’ve probably seen multiple respected epidemiologists have estimated that 20-70% of world will be infected within the next year. If you use 6-day doubling rate I mentioned above, we land at ~2-6 billion infected by sometime in July of this year.
Obviously I think the doubling time will start to slow once a sizeable fraction of the population has been infected, simply because of herd immunity and a smaller susceptible population.
But take the scenarios above (full beds, no PPE, etc, at just 1% of the US population infected) and stretch them out over just a couple extra months.
That timeline roughly fits with consensus end-game numbers from these highly esteemed epidemiologists. Again, we’re talking about discrepancies of mere days or weeks one direction or another, but not disagreements in the overall magnitude of the challenge.
This is not some hypothetical, fear-mongering, worst-case scenario. This is reality, as far as anyone can tell with the current available data.
That’s all for now. Standard disclaimers apply: I’m a PhD biologist but *not* an epidemiologist. Thoughts my own. Yadda yadda. Stay safe out there. /end

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Addendum: to anyone who found this useful or interesting, highly recommend you follow @trvrb who actually does modeling and forecasting for a living. This thread is a great place to start: https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1236097553520660483?s=21https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1236097553520660483

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If growth continues unabated, this cluster alone may be responsible for 1100 (210, 2800) active infections by March 10 and 2000 (370, 5000) by March 15. 5/7

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They're holding a cruise ship off the San Francisco coast, one died, and 20 so far are showing infected.

Imagine if the virus spread to the homeless population there.


Or the prison population, hospital population, or the nursing home population

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One thing we are doing today is that mine and my wifes couple prescriptions were below 1/2 so we ordered another month to have at home. We tried to order 3 months but insurance won't cover, so we will have about 6 weeks and probably order another month in another couple weeks if they will fill.

We both have different places to go today, so we are going to check out a couple stores and get a few staples that we can store for a couple weeks


We went and didn't do anything crazy, but we have stocked up on dried oats, beans, tuna, pasta, flour, and sauce. Wife made a couple pots of soup and we stored them to get through this week.
also, bought some toilet paper, lysol, bleach, hand sanitizer to keep at home and put in all of our cars-if we are out.

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Ohio Department of Health confirms 5 people are being tested for coronavirus

COLUMBUS, Ohio (WOIO) - The Ohio Department of Health confirmed five people have been tested for coronavirus in the state with laboratory results still pending as of 2 p.m. on Saturday.

An hour later, Governor Mike DeWine joined the Ohio Department of Health to provide an update on the state’s response efforts and testing protocol.

The Ohio Department of Health said those five have “exhibited symptoms of respiratory illness AND, within 14 days of symptoms starting, either traveled to China or been in close contact with a person known to have COVID-19.”

Nine people in Ohio have tested negative for coronavirus, according to the Ohio Department of Health.

The Ohio Department of Health also reported that there are zero confirmed cases of coronavirus in Ohio.

According to the Ohio Department of Health, there are 255 cumulative number of individuals under health supervision, with sources including, “the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Division of Global Migration and Quarantine and travelers who have voluntarily contacted local health departments upon arrival in Ohio."

The Ohio Department of Health defines the 255 cumulative number of individuals under health supervision as the “cumulative number of travelers referred to the Ohio Department of Health for monitoring; includes travelers who have completed their self-monitoring period. These individuals are not exhibiting symptoms of illness.”

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and Ohio Department of Health Director Amy Acton, M.D., MPH gave an update on the status of the state’s response to the coronavirus at 3 p.m

https://www.facebook.com/Cleveland19News/videos/250518555959266/


prioritizing the patients who are the most vulnerable to be tested in the Department of Health’s State Laboratory, while ensuring those that need COVID-19 testing will be able to be tested,” said Governor DeWine.

“We want to reassure Ohioans so there is no confusion. Information is critical to managing an outbreak of any infectious disease, and testing at our state lab offers the greatest ability for all of us to make the best decisions to protect the health of the greatest number of people. We will now be able to turn around results in an estimated 24-48 hours,” said Dr. Acton.

The Ohio Department of Health and Governor’s Office shared the following information for the testing protocol:

"For those who are hospitalized and meet the following criteria, samples will be sent to the ODH state lab:

Have a fever or signs/symptoms of lower respiratory illness, (e.g., cough or shortness of breath) and have had close contact with a laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patient within 14 days of symptom onset.

Have a fever and signs/symptoms of lower respiratory illness, and a history of travel from affected geographic areas with widespread or sustained community transmission within 14 days of symptom onset.

Have a fever with severe acute lower respiratory illness and lack of alternative diagnosis (e.g., negative respiratory viral panel, negative rapid flu).

For individuals who are not hospitalized but meet the above criteria, calling a physician or other healthcare provider is appropriate. If that healthcare provider determines a COVID-19 test is necessary, those samples are sent to private labs who now have the capability to test.

ODH will continue to confirm all positive tests, regardless of where testing took place. In addition, ODH in partnership with local health departments will continue to monitor the impact of COVID-19 in Ohio.

ODH will now also share updates on confirmed cases and Persons Under Investigation (PUIs) for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) every day on the ODH website by 2 p.m. That now includes weekends.

The ODH call center is open 7 days a week from 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. to answer questions regarding COVID-19.

The call center can be reached at 1-833-4-ASK-ODH (1-833-427-5634). For COVID-19 information and resources visit http://coronavirus.ohio.gov."

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/03/07/o...ed-coronavirus/


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The video in that article was from today. Ohio has the ability to test about 400 people... ??? smh

A lot of info regarding what the are going to do to 'ration' testing, and manage resources as they try to handle this crisis. It's obvious we are behind the eightball.


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That said so well what I've tried to convey to many.
Deaths and death rates, as bad as they are, are not the big worry with this and we have absolutely zero information to suggest that the presumed result isn't the basic expected result at this point.


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As of yesterday and today, globally, new cases are again outstripping recoveries.


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When I was at the Stadium tonight they had a hand sanitizing station. I didn't walk around the stadium much but I would guess they had them by all the gates.

That was a good start.

And then when I was leaving people were saying "Don't touch the railings!"'

I also read the team isn't doing high fives with the fans in the field level clubs any more. (until this problem goes away.)

I hope it doesn't get so bad here they don't allow fans into the matches.


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I know there has been talk of the NBA playing games w/out fans in attendance.

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just jumped to 465 cases

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Map is finally reflecting the Florida deaths.
19 in the US, so far.

There are now 8 different infected areas in just Florida. I don't envision this going well for the massive elderly population there.


Italy has gone all China and is blockading the ENTIRE Lombardy region, including all of Milan and Venice. 11 million people inside the quarantine zone.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Map is finally reflecting the Florida deaths.
19 in the US, so far.

There are now 8 different infected areas in just Florida. I don't envision this going well for the massive elderly population there.


Italy has gone all China and is blockading the ENTIRE Lombardy region, including all of Milan and Venice. 11 million people inside the quarantine zone.


Yes, this won't go well for Florida.
Also, on that cruise ship that is off the cost of California that can't dock, there are over 1,000 of the 3,500 passengers on that ship that are over 70 years old. And I couldn't find where they were being tested yet.

Also, just found out yesterday that when they test somebody, it takes 3-5 days for the test to come back.

And it seems like even though the Chinese government say they have this under control, they have completely stopped updating the number of cases reported.

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I saw this morning that ship is docking Oakland.

All California residents on the ship are being taken to a federal facility in California. The others are also being taken to federal facilities; presumably in their home states (which is just kinda weird).


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And yeah, the flow of information/data to the John's Hopkins site seems.... stunted, lately.

I've been checking the timeline/live updates on al Jazeera. It's been the most open and uncolored source, so far. Just information, no interpretation.

They report 1200 new cases in Italy, by the way, which should put them close to 7,000 by the time John's Hopkins updates.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
I saw this morning that ship is docking Oakland.

All California residents on the ship are being taken to a federal facility in California. The others are also being taken to federal facilities; presumably in their home states (which is just kinda weird).


That is kind of odd since it's a federal facility.


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I don't know anything about it aside from the report I read. What facility?


Johns Hopkins updated... Italy looks to have jumped more than the expected 1200. They've passed South Korea for most cases outside of China, and are up to 366 deaths.


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Make your own hand sanitizer.

1 part aloha skin cream to 2/3 parts 91% rubbing alcohol. Moon shine can sub.


Just shake it up and rub it in. Germ free and soft and supple hands.


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Everclear works better than most moonshine. Everclear can be purchased at up to 95% alcohol. Legal moonshine is almost always 100 proof or 50% alcohol.

Once you cut the moonshine with one part aloha it will not be strong enough. Everclear will.


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