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They implemented taking temps at my wife's work on Tuesday too.

Pretty sure the temp taking is state mandated.

They aren't taking temps of hospital employees in some hospitals.

That's total BS, but it's happening everywhere (not testing people with positive symptoms). That guy shouldn't have been permitted to enter the hospital.

Exactly. I don't mean to overreact because we don't know if the guy has it or not. It's just irresponsible. If there is any question--especially on an elective surgery--you error on the side of caution rather than on the side of that 2020 troll.

A friend of mine who is a truck driver said on Facebook they distributed letters today to keep in their cab to say they are allowed to go to work. He lives in NC and delivers gases to medical facilities. A few of his other friends said that drive said they got letters too, in different states. Maybe an entire country lock down coming?

Who knows......my uncle drives. He originally had 2 loads for yesterday. Got a call that the first load was cancelled. 1 hour later got a call that the second load was cancelled because the factory he was to pick up from wasn't allowing truck drivers in.

Makes no sense to me that a factory wouldn't want their product shipped, but.

As I told my wife and daughter yesterday, in a discussion, I won't be surprised if many manufacturing companies shut down for a few weeks, at minimum. We're already seeing it happen.

My friend works for jb hunt. He manages drivers. When I talked to him on Sunday he said business is very good.

Gov. Gavin Newsom orders all Californians to stay at home

California Governor Gavin Newsom
“The magnitude of this crisis is extraordinary and federal-state-local government coordination will be more critical than ever before,” Gov. Gavin Newsom says.(Randall Benton / Associated Press)
By TARYN LUNA
STAFF WRITER
MARCH 19, 2020
6:49 PM

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday ordered all Californians to stay at home, marking the first mandatory restrictions placed on the lives of all 40 million residents in the state’s fight against the novel coronavirus.
The governor’s order comes at a critical time in California, where 19 people have died and an additional 958 have tested positive for the disease.

Officials hope telling people to remain in their homes and restrict social interactions will slow the spread of the virus and ultimately prevent hospitals from being overrun with sick patients. The request for all residents to stay at home marks the strongest escalation of the Newsom administration’s response to the virus.

“It’s time for all of us to recognize, as individuals and as a community, we need to do more,” Newsom said.


Newsom on Thursday also asked Congress for $1 billion in federal funds to support the state’s medical response to the novel coronavirus, which he said he expects will infect more than half of all Californians.

The state projects that 25.5 million people in California will be infected with the coronavirus over an eight-week period, Newsom said in a letter sent to President Trump on Wednesday requesting the deployment of the U.S. Navy’s Mercy hospital ship to the Port of Los Angeles through Sept. 1.

In a separate letter sent to the leaders of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, Newsom said the financial aid is crucial to the state’s ability to procure ventilators and other medical supplies, activate state-run hospitals, deploy mobile hospitals and meet other healthcare needs.

“The economic disruption caused by this public health crisis will have immediate and devastating effects on our entire country, including too many families in California,” Newsom wrote. “The magnitude of this crisis is extraordinary and federal-state-local government coordination will be more critical than ever before.”

Gov. Gavin Newsom’s letter to President Donald Trump on coronavirus assistance
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The governor’s office declined to provide an explanation of the state’s projection that 25.5 million Californians will be infected with this virus. Instead, a spokesman for the governor said the state’s mitigation efforts could lower that estimate.

“Gov. Newsom has been honest about the threat of the virus and its impact on the health and welfare of Californians,” said Nathan Click, a spokesman for Newsom. “This projection shows why it’s so critical that Californians take action to slow the spread of the disease — and those mitigation efforts aren’t taken into account in those numbers. The state is deploying every resource at its disposal to meet this challenge, and we continue to ask for the federal government’s assistance in this fight.”

In a briefing Wednesday, Newsom said the Navy hospital ship and two mobile hospitals would help the state care for an anticipated surge in patients. The governor said the state would need roughly 20,000 more beds if more than half of Californians come down with the coronavirus.

“That’s just one scenario plan. There’s others that are more modest. Some may, some cases [may] be more extreme,” Newsom said. “When you’re looking at getting an additional [19,000] to 20,000 beds in your system, you have to look at your existing surge capacity within the healthcare delivery system, and you have to look at procuring additional assets.”

Dr. Karen Smith, a communicable disease expert and former director of the California Department of Public Health, said it’s difficult to determine how many people will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 because so much remains unknown about the novel coronavirus.

But Smith, who is advising the response to the pandemic in Santa Clara and Mendocino counties, said the virus is spreading so rapidly that it’s time for Newsom to mandate statewide closures of businesses that go beyond actions some counties have taken.

Newsom has so far recommended that bars, restaurant dining rooms and other businesses shutter and left legal orders up to the discretion of county officials, who he has argued are in the best position to determine the appropriate response in their communities.

But Smith said the patchwork approach no longer works at this stage in the fight against the virus.

“I personally think that it will be more effective if it is done statewide than if it is done county by county,” Smith said. “There are some counties that aren’t doing anything, but it’s going to leak and it’s going to leak faster if the mitigation stops at some arbitrary boundary.”

She said even some counties that have adopted mandatory closures are allowing too many types of businesses to stay open. Absent mandatory requirements, she said, residents aren’t taking recommendations seriously enough.

“One way to get their attention is to mandate that all of those businesses close and they stay home,” Smith said. “It’s hard and it’s going to hurt people and it’s going to hurt our most vulnerable people a lot, but so will not doing anything. This is unprecedented, and it takes a long time for people to really get it.”

The governor’s request for additional federal funds came three days after lawmakers at the state Capitol approved a plan to spend as much as $1 billion on the state’s emergency medical response to the pandemic in anticipation of a surge in sick patients.

The Democratic governor also requested an expansion of unemployment insurance benefits beyond the 26-week maximum and more funding for Medicaid, federal food assistance, housing and homelessness, state-subsidized early learning and child care and several other safety net programs.

Newsom’s letter to Congress called for support for small businesses, including rental assistance, zero-interest loans and direct cash assistance, and the creation of a new U.S. Treasury Authority to provide guaranteed loans.

With schools closed across the state and teachers struggling to implement online and alternative learning programs, the governor also asked for an expansion of technology investments for schools, an increase in Title I funding for schools with a high concentration of poverty, broadband internet upgrades, grants for teachers to adapt to digital-age instruction and more money for the U.S. Department of Agriculture Child Nutrition Programs.

“The challenges we face as elected leaders in this crisis are immense,” Newsom wrote. “Working together, I am confident that we can meet this moment and take the necessary and immediate steps to address our economic and societal needs as we continue to address — and begin to recover from — this unprecedented crisis.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story...aid-coronavirus

I've basically been doing this for a week anyway. I wish was doing it longer. I made a grocery run earlier today and stocked up on everything. It's going to be like this for awhile.

Stay safe cfrs! I have cousins as well as my aunt and uncle that live in Orange County and just spoke with them.

My family has essentially been on lockdown for about a week now as well here in OH.

I assume Gov. DeWine will do this at some point next week.

I don't even understand why the testing is all that important.

Do we need testing to confirm a person gasping for air is infected? Or, ok, great, I don't have it now. Next week is a different matter.

People should already be keeping space. Pick and choose when you go out. If you think you have it, guess what, you probably do. Stay home and away from family members. Call your Dr. and let them tell you your next step.

This was unleashed by China. They need to pay.

My friend just heard back around 11PM ... she’s negative, which is a big relief. One less case ... plus, we hung out a few nights ago, so I’m relieved too

I've heard about it at my work. We're still at work because we're not set up to telework.

This whole situation has been eye-opening as far as the leadership at my company (not in a good way). I just started here, but I'm really starting to wonder if I need to pull the ripcord and try to land somewhere else (jumping around does NOT look good on a resume).

I wouldn't worry about jumping quick from a company unless you make a habit out of it. Sometimes things just aren't good fits. There are going to be many people searching for work in the near future. Job market will likely suck.

A lot of companies have been slow to react, mine included. It's been a poor display of leadership across the board. Profits and worrying about the wrong things (like people screwing off at home) instead of people's safety has been an issue. We are past all of that. If you have to pay people to do nothing, then so be it.

Oh dear Lord.

Yeah, let's keep that kind of talk out of this thread...

It's bats,bats are to blame.
Everybody should eat a few of them,that will make them pay.

Are you advocating testing everyone,then in 2 weeks time,testing everyone again,2 more weeks testing everyone again,and so on and so on.
That would be the only sure fire of determining who has the virus.
Logistically impossible and not very smart.

The most logical thing to do would be to test anyone with symptoms as a starting point. If they test positive, you then branch out to testing anyone who has been known to come in contact with them.

Since we know that the virus can be spread before you ever develop symptoms, this is something we should be doing that we're not.

My company put out a memo that all company meetings of 3 or more people are cancelled, try to keep minimum 3-6' between each other, provided supplies for cleaning desks and stuff everyday, no non-essential outside visitors, no vendor visits, if you feel the slightest bit sick stay home, and a couple people who had weak immune systems where given permission to work from home, as well as anyone who feels sick.

We're not the type of business that can be done 100% remotely. Some stuff can be done, but some people need to be on site.

Construction continues, so we continue. Doing our best to maintain distances and limit interaction.

As an added bonus, we have and due have a doctors office on site that is a company perk.

I'm advocating that testing be ramped up to where anyone and everyone can get tested on a whim at any time.

The differences between South Korea and Italy are startling...and it all begins with testing so you can identify all of those thousands of asymptomatic people.

Serious question, because I honestly don't know.

How many test kits can they produce a day?
How many tests can they process a day?

Everyone can't be tested,our country doesn't have the means.
Without testing everyone,time and time again,your most dangerous person will still be out there,unknowingly infecting others.

Which 'They'?

Either way, I don't know the answer. Producing (functional) kits doesn't seem to be the issue. Bandwidth at labs to process them seems to be the bottleneck.

However, South Korea has found a way to get it done. I do not know the specifics of How they are able to, but they simply are. They have done well over a half million tests. They contact-traced *everyone* from their first cases and tracked down everything. As a result, while we're hitting 5,000 new cases each day now, they are cruising along at under 100 new cases per day.

No need to eat bats. Just hire Tim Misny.

Anyone that's listened to Ozzy speak should know to not eat bats.

J/C

It isn't that China is to blame for the virus itself, the cover up, the denial, the rejection of help, the allowing people to travel went on for months. That, they are to blame for....then they turn around and report locally transmitted cased for two full days proving that their inaction created a world pandemic.





The parroting of communist Chinese rhetoric is just weird. Like we get it you hate Trump but their actions directly affected the spread of this virus and here we are talking about who is to blame when it is beyond obvious this was going on since like October, maybe earlier because you know full well you cannot believe a word the Chinese say about it at this point. The rush to defend them is very very strange.

Problem being, he talked that way before he ate a bat.

But at a much much slower rate that allows hospitals to treat the sickest patients.

See the simulations here - testing and isolating people makes a huge difference in the number of deaths:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

j/c...

Lots of horrible situations that we don't even think about are happening. I took my mom to the doctor this past Monday, and was talking to a woman in the waiting room. Her daughter's wedding is scheduled for May, and they don't know if they will even be able to get married, if they'll be able to get their deposit back on the reception hall if these restrictions aren't eased by then, or anything.

My step-mother is in a care facility in Florida, and she is not allowed any visitors. She really misses her friends.

My church has not met for a couple of weeks now, and it may be another month before we can do so again. Really, who knows when?

My mom is a voracious reader. She'll go to the library and get 8-10 mysteries at a time. She's been out of books for a week now, and all of the libraries are closed.

My bank has closed their inside facilities, going strictly drive thru and ATM.

That's just a few things that go beyond what is commonly thought of.

j/c...

Get her an e-reader, or a tablet.

She can get a ton of books from every library