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Whew! We dodged that bullet.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Anyone think our free agency choices are based primarily on money ball stats? Might explain why we have no namers being signed. Maybe on moneyball stats standards they are ideal? I think we targeted and got the higher priced guys we were after, and now we're shopping the bargain bin to fill out the bottom of the roster. Unless something breaks in the Clowney arena, I don't think you will see us buy any more high-priced guys. We filled holes, now we add talent in the Draft.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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The job of a GM is to get better in all positions both from the position of starters to depth. You look at the entire roster and improve where you can.
This the approach I see being used here. This is no different than any other off season in that respect.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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GC, Will the Browns have a winning season again? When?
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
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I would like to see us pick up Mathews on a 1 or 2 year contract. outside of that, waiting to see what we do in the draft.
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts?
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With Kush gone, would the Browns have any interest in Mike Person? The '49ers released him. I think he's only about 32 years old. Their run game was excellent.
Person, who occupied the only locker next to Jimmy Garoppolo, was due to make $2.7 million this season as part of a three-year extension he signed last year.
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts? I think there is a fairly good chance one of Brown or Simmons is there at #10. I like your thoughts on the tackles as well. I know many are hell bent on drafting a LT at 10, but there are others who are good. IMO only Wills and Thomas are top 10 players. Becton and Whirfs are more mid round guys.
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts? If Simmons or Brown fall fall to 10, I'd want to take either (preferably Simmons), but then I'd try to trade back into the later 1st round to take either Josh Jones, Austin Jackson, or Ezra Cleveland (in that order) because I believe that once the run on LT starts its going to be heavy in the 1st round. We have to come out of this draft with a starting LT, at least as things stand right now - unless we sign Jason Peters.
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#Colts cutting CB Pierre Desir, a starter the past 3 seasons, per
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts? I think there is a fairly good chance one of Brown or Simmons is there at #10. I like your thoughts on the tackles as well. I know many are hell bent on drafting a LT at 10, but there are others who are good. IMO only Wills and Thomas are top 10 players. Becton and Whirfs are more mid round guys.
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Sorry. I posted it, agree with it, apparently hijacked it somehow. My apologies. Stuff happening in the post that I don't do.
Bad enough to respond to myself, so I won't punch up a 'like' to boot. I like Simmons and think we draft two tackles.
Carry on. Somebodystake a rightful claim to it.
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts? I think there is a fairly good chance one of Brown or Simmons is there at #10. I like your thoughts on the tackles as well. I know many are hell bent on drafting a LT at 10, but there are others who are good. IMO only Wills and Thomas are top 10 players. Becton and Whirfs are more mid round guys. I think that it is much more likely than not, that both Simmons and Brown are gone by pick 10. Anybody have any thoughts on Murray?
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Source: The #Colts are releasing QB Brian Hoyer, and he’s now a free agent. The former #Patriots backup on the move.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The former and soon-to-be current Patriots' back-up QB, I would guess.
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The former and soon-to-be current Patriots' back-up QB, I would guess. same here
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Anyone think our free agency choices are based primarily on money ball stats? Might explain why we have no namers being signed. Maybe on moneyball stats standards they are ideal? Huh? Jack Conklin and Austin Hooper are no-namers? Oy vey. I don't think the FO is about Moneyball right now, but I think you may have misinterpreted his post. I read it as the Browns signed a couple of big names early and the signings after that have been rather dismal. Cheap contracts for guys who are not very good players and/or have injury concerns. I get that a lot of folks don't want anyone to criticize the new FO after they just bashed the previous one for two years.............but, not every move is golden.
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I sure would love to know what the plan at LBer is now, what it was when we started and how it evolved to get to where were at now ...
I have not seen these guys myself but had this thought and would like to get the opinion of people who have actually laid eyes on these players. Assuming Derrick Brown and Isaiah Simmons are both taken before our pick (those are the 2 players at 10 that I really like should they drop) Trade down a few spots and draft Kenneth Murray LB Oklahoma Then in Round 2 come back and grab Ezra Cleveland OT Boise St or Calvin Throckmorton OT Oregon or Lucas Niang OT TCU. Thoughts? I think there is a fairly good chance one of Brown or Simmons is there at #10. I like your thoughts on the tackles as well. I know many are hell bent on drafting a LT at 10, but there are others who are good. IMO only Wills and Thomas are top 10 players. Becton and Whirfs are more mid round guys. I’m guessing you meant mid-first round, and not mid round.
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Anyone have an update on our available cap space? (after the first wave of FA signings)
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Anyone have an update on our available cap space? (after the first wave of FA signings) I had read that we were still in better shape than most teams
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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On this chart, on this day, the Browns have the most cap space and have the 3rd youngest team at 25.54. Only #17 Jax at 25.2, and #20 NYG at 25.32 are younger.
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That’s why it’s so annoying if we lose again this year ... last year we had talent, youth, cap space, etc .. but still sucked
We have to take advantage of our youth/talent/cap space this year and next year
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I disagree completely that it has been a moneyball approach.
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BREAKING: The #Patriots have reached agreements with QB Brian Hoyer and former Jets LB Brandon Copeland today. This will be Hoyer's third tour of duty with in New England. It was written in stone *L*
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Anyone have an update on our available cap space? (after the first wave of FA signings) I had read that we were still in better shape than most teams Thank you sir...was wondering if we would still be in the market for another good option in FA.
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Anyone have an update on our available cap space? (after the first wave of FA signings) I had read that we were still in better shape than most teams Thank you sir...was wondering if we would still be in the market for another good option in FA. I bet nothing major ... unless they come cheaper
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The Falcons have agreed to terms with OL Justin McCray, who played last season for the Browns and previously played for the Packers, a source said. The versatile lineman played in 15 games last season (four starts) and has 15 career starts to his credit. https://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41093305-4
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Falcons are signing former Vikings’ first-round pick, WR Laquon Treadwell.
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Falcons are signing former Vikings’ first-round pick, WR Laquon Treadwell.
@AdamSchefter there’s a name that just cant get it to click, much like Perriman used to be
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On this chart, on this day, the Browns have the most cap space and have the 3rd youngest team at 25.54. Only #17 Jax at 25.2, and #20 NYG at 25.32 are younger. But...........Dorsey left this team "a mess."
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I disagree completely that it has been a moneyball approach. I'll leave the regime wars to others. Not sure why you posted that to me? Here is what I said:
I don't think the FO is about Moneyball right now, but I think you may have misinterpreted his post.
I think you play the regime wars more than I do. Just sayin'.
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Who cares anymore? We are at the cusp of the end. Wave after wave is going to hit us. Football is over.
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Who cares anymore? We are at the cusp of the end. Wave after wave is going to hit us. Football is over. Is this facetious? China is recovering. S Korea is recovering. But the greatest country in the history of the world, the United States of America is finished? Come on man, get a grip.
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