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Great now I have to find a way to root for Wolfe while rooting against his team. I also need to pray for his family since they are surrounded by Browns AND Steeler fans lol


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Official cap space by teams 1-11 (includes moves officially made):
1. HOU: 49,257,819
2. NYJ: 45,016,813
3. CLE: 43,703,760
4. LAC: 37,553,266
5. TEN: 32,509,301
6. WAS: 31,468,435
7. DET: 31,369,450
8. DEN: 29,819,797
9. DAL: 28,560,313
10. PHI: 27,868,177
11. IND: 26,863,345

Official cap space by team (12-23)
12. BUF: 26,539,939
13. JAX: 22,808,288
14. MIA: 22,682,552
15. CHI: 21,798,5871
16. NYG: 19,556,709
17. CAR: 16,832,122
18. LAR: 16,357,084
19. LV: 15,285,765
20. SF: 15,064,239
21. TB: 14,836,167
22. ARI: 14,383,375
23. CIN: 13,657,810

Official cap space by team (teams 24-32):
24. BAL: 13,513,779
25. GB: 12,966,433
26. MIN: 12,495,443
27. SEA: 11,317,846
28. NO: 9,237,537
29. PIT: 8,667,814
30. ATL: 7,530,188
31. NE: 891,775
32. KC: 177

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Our cap space is a mess.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Our cap space is a mess.


??? was that sarcasm???

Love it and no time to go stupid cause we got some bigtime 2nd contracts coming up in the near future!


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Yes, it was sarcasm over what has been a popular myth that has been perpetrated on the board. I was talking to another one of our posters via text. I said the same thing when he spoke of trading for Trent Williams. I told him the huge contract he would demand would be an obstacle down the road when he mentioned us having so much cap space.


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I would say calling it a popular myth is overstating it. Just because one or two people say something doesn’t mean people believe it. I think that most people know that we aren’t in cap hell.


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It was more of a generalization. Breaking things down into categories we certainly had bright spots. Better talent, good in cap space. But for those who wished not to address things in terms of specifics, a general mess sounded better to them.


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Lol KC’s cap space is funny to look at


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I would be curious to see who said we are in cap hell. And why they think that.

That being said, since our cap space is NOT a mess, I really wouldn't go crazy this season. We spent quite a bit over the salary cap last season with little to show. I really wouldn't spend too much more this offseason in order to save our cap space.

Or if we do, perhaps more releases/trades are in our future.

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I would be curious to see who said we are in cap hell.


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I can think of a WR that can be released next year with no dead cap money they will free up a substantial sum to begin re-signing some of corner pieces. If need be


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Originally Posted By: texaslostdawg
I can think of a WR that can be released next year with no dead cap money they will free up a substantial sum to begin re-signing some of corner pieces. If need be


Me too.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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I can think of a WR that can be released next year with no dead cap money they will free up a substantial sum to begin re-signing some of corner pieces. If need be


Me too.



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Who?


OBJ, can be released or traded before 2021 season and have zero dead money on cap. I think we can even trade him in2020 and only have about 4 Mill dead cap


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I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.
Definitely wouldn't be a fan of cutting him for nothing in return.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.


Generally I agree with that, however if push comes to shove and say a cornerstone of the defense ( whoever you may think that is) needs to be signed , I'm taking about any other position over a WR.

And yeah, a trade is a better way than a direct release.


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I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.
Definitely wouldn't be a fan of cutting him for nothing in return.


If it's another year of injuries (would it be 4 years running?), underwhelming performance, and distractions.....it should be an easy decision, IMO.

It sucks, the guy will only be 28 at the end of this season and he is extremely talented but there is alot of other stuff that comes with him, unfortunately. Hopefully this is a rebound year.

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I think a lot of people just don't like OBJ. I have seen various trade speculation and talk about how he was a distraction. I don't think he was a distraction. Shoes? Watch? LMAO......the players don't care about that crap.

I do think Baker's mouth was a distraction. I also think he better play a lot better than he did this past year. The combination of his poor play and constant drama is not good for the team.

I still have hope that he plays better and learns to stop saying dumb and distracting things, but it's time to do it. Now!

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I think a lot of people just don't like OBJ. I have seen various trade speculation and talk about how he was a distraction. I don't think he was a distraction. Shoes? Watch? LMAO......the players don't care about that crap.

I do think Baker's mouth was a distraction. I also think he better play a lot better than he did this past year. The combination of his poor play and constant drama is not good for the team.

I still have hope that he plays better and learns to stop saying dumb and distracting things, but it's time to do it. Now!


Baker's mouth is a distraction? Please rolleyes . The agenda is thick in that post.

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I think a lot of people just don't like OBJ. I have seen various trade speculation and talk about how he was a distraction. I don't think he was a distraction. Shoes? Watch? LMAO......the players don't care about that crap.

I do think Baker's mouth was a distraction. I also think he better play a lot better than he did this past year. The combination of his poor play and constant drama is not good for the team.

I still have hope that he plays better and learns to stop saying dumb and distracting things, but it's time to do it. Now!


I think he has already shown improvement here, his silence about Grossi and the midget comment was deafening.

That's one anyway... ore need to follow.


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Some make excuses to claim one is a distraction while they make excuses why the other one is not a distraction. The have your cake and eat it too gang.


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I know. #bakerbestqbever


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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
I would be curious to see who said we are in cap hell. And why they think that.

That being said, since our cap space is NOT a mess, I really wouldn't go crazy this season. We spent quite a bit over the salary cap last season with little to show. I really wouldn't spend too much more this offseason in order to save our cap space.

Or if we do, perhaps more releases/trades are in our future.



I haven’t seen anyone say those exact words. I was talking about people (or maybe person) who think our cap is a mess. I don’t know who has said that but I have seen it posted on here. Sorry if my word choices added to any confusion.

My point remains. Just because someone says something that is not true doesn’t mean that it’s a popular myth. I think most of us realize we are fine when it comes to the cap.


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I know. #bakerbestqbever


Said no one on this board...ever.

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In those exact words? No. But then look at who I addressed that to and do your best to think real hard. wink


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I dunno about all that.... but for me, he's a beast WR that is at the front end of his prime years. He managed to put up 1k yards despite being dinged all year and playing within a dumpster fire of an offense with a QB that regressed. I'm also not quite ready to slap the 'injury-prone' label on him, but I can understand someone's POV that is.

Yes, he was disappointing last year, but so was just about everyone, and the main reason(s) were not within his control.

Yes, he's a diva... he's an elite NFL WR. This shouldn't be a shock.


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I think the shoes/watch/etc WOULD have been a distraction if our coaching staff didn't eclipse all that with their own ish.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.


It's going to be hard to keep Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and Denzel Ward without OBJ or Jarvis Landry being off the team or taking a pay cut.

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I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.


It's going to be hard to keep Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and Denzel Ward without OBJ or Jarvis Landry being off the team or taking a pay cut.


I agree, which is why our window is now. We need to get it right.




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I would not approve of getting rid of OBJ. This team has a ton of cap space and is in need of talented players.


It's going to be hard to keep Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett, and Denzel Ward without OBJ or Jarvis Landry being off the team or taking a pay cut.


I agree, which is why our window is now. We need to get it right.


I guess is Baker sucks again we can pay everyone because we won't need to pay the QB.

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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
I think the shoes/watch/etc WOULD have been a distraction if our coaching staff didn't eclipse all that with their own ish.


I don't think players on the team care about shoes and a watch. I do think they care about some of the things Baker said.

But, somehow saying OBJ caused distractions is talking football and saying Baker caused distractions is having an agenda. crazy

And y'all just let it go. Pure Football.

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Question, when did OBJ become a FA?

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Your attempts to argue with someone about things that were never said are uncanny.


rofl


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