Joe has earned his money mostly from book royalties and speaking engagements instead of tax breaks and investments. He's not among the really wealthy Senators according to Forbes.
The 77-year-old has touted himself as "Middle-Class Joe" for decades — but he and his wife, Jill, have a net worth of $9 million, according to a Forbes estimate from July 2019.
The couple's fortune is mostly tied to public speaking engagements and book royalties, according to tax returns and financial disclosures released by the Biden campaign and published on the campaign's website.
Well he just said he wants/think we need the most progressive administration in history now. Says he wants Bernie to help him do that. So I'll vote for him like I said and IF he follows through and is truly progressive, then I'll support him. That's the best you get from me and I'm not going to hold my breath or my criticism until I see it.
FDR set a damn high bar for the most progressive administration in US history and I should take Biden at face value that he will be more progressive? lmao smh
If he surprises me I'll heap the praise on him but until then I'm not buying into the BS.
You do realize this would mean getting a Bernie's agenda PLUS admin without Bernie on the ticket...
A good start would be making Katie Porter his VP, since he wants a woman.
No idea what you are trying to lay on me now. I'm sure it's some more centrist hysteria, but I'm in no mood to play your games. Again, I said exactly what I meant. What part of that don't you understand?
So I'll vote for him like I said and IF he follows through and is truly progressive, then I'll support him.
Guilty until proven innocent. Even Bernie can't get you to do the right thing. If you won't even listen to Bernie, you sure as hell aren't going to listen to anyone else.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I'm not pretending anything. You're willing to publicly undermine the very candidate Bernie is endorsing. Biden was never my candidate either until it became clear that he was the inevitable nominee and the only chance to beat Trump. I mean you do understand you have to actually become the nominee in order to win the election, right?
At that point I put all the other pettiness aside.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I didn't sell my soul to the effin dems. I'm a progressive. You just can't wrap around that. I don't CARE who you endorse or support. I don't CARE what you think I should be doing. You're not my daddy bro, You're not my mentor, You're not even progressive... get off my ass.
I'm pointing out what you are saying and how you are acting. I'm an independent voter so I'm certainly not a Democrat. But I'm smart enough to understand what a danger Trump is and refuse to undermine the candidate who is running against him.
That's not really about my "wants and wishes". That's about stepping up and doing what seems right to me given the serious situation we all face moving forward.
I'm simply pointing out you don't share that view. It's either your way, with the only candidate you want or you will publicly undermine your only chance to beat Trump. It's a matter of priorities.
And we can see where yours are. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I'm an independent voter so I'm certainly not a Democrat.
This is what is so funny posting on PP - I'm a registered independent too. I'm fiscally conservative but believe in much stronger Fed support to assist those at the bottom... I defended some of the Obama stuff and I have been ubber critical of Trump because, well seriously, he deserves every ounce of it and more.
BUT - criticize Trump and you get labelled a socialist, a pansy, a libtard, anything and everything. I've even seen some of the intelligent right leaning posters getting labelled liberals for not being hardline Trump ... hard to believe but that's where we are.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
One of the problems/issues with criticizing trump on EVERYTHING (and he deserves some criticism on some things) is this: Read, listen to the 2 or 3 videos of Fauci himself speaking. Read the quotes he said.
Yet, people are blaming Trump for not acting sooner.........and today, they're saying he should've listened to Fauci sooner.
For those that can't or won't take 2 minutes to read, and 2 1/2 minutes to watch: "On January 21, 2020, when asked about how deadly the virus is and if Americans should be worried, Dr. Fauci responded: “This is not a major threat for the people in United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”
" In an unearthed audio from January 26, Dr. Fauci assured Americans that the coronavirus is nothing to worry about. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States,” Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable John Catsimatidis. Dr. Fauci added:“It isn’t something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about.” Notwithstanding what Dr. Fauci had said, U.S. President Trump decided to issue a travel ban five days later."
But, you don't see that reported anywhere, hence the techstartups link. Never heard of that site in my life, but the audio, and video of Fauci is right there.
And we have the haters on here, been hating for well over 3 years and blaming Trump for anything and everything......and they'll ignore this, and continue to bash.
Ya, its hard to believe that people that want FREE HEALTH CARE for everyone .... FREE EDUCATION for everyone .... FORGIVING DEBT ..... MORE GOV’T CONTROL over our lives are deemed socialist ... INCREDIBLE .. we’ve lost our minds 40 ... what r we thinking ...
That’s why you are a socialist ... its not a label .. its a FACT ...
I’’ll go ahead and put lipstick on your pig for u ... democratic socialist ... ...
I'm pointing out what you are saying and how you are acting. I'm an independent voter so I'm certainly not a Democrat. But I'm smart enough to understand what a danger Trump is and refuse to undermine the candidate who is running against him.
That's not really about my "wants and wishes". That's about stepping up and doing what seems right to me given the serious situation we all face moving forward.
I'm simply pointing out you don't share that view. It's either your way, with the only candidate you want or you will publicly undermine your only chance to beat Trump. It's a matter of priorities.
And we can see where yours are. I'm sorry if that upsets you.
That's where you get me wrong. I love Bernie, but I was never married to Bernie as a candidate. It's all about the progressive agenda for me, period. I want to live in a people first country that gives everybody a fair shake. That's not that hard to understand. Education, Healthcare, a strong social safety net are the big things I want to see before I die. Global Warming Resolution, Clean Energy, Criminal Justice Reforms, Immigration Reforms, Legal Weed, Women's Pay Equality, Livable Wages, and Infrastructure are high priorities too.
Ya, its hard to believe that people that want FREE HEALTH CARE for everyone .... FREE EDUCATION for everyone .... FORGIVING DEBT ..... MORE GOV’T CONTROL over our lives are deemed socialist ... INCREDIBLE .. we’ve lost our minds 40 ... what r we thinking ...
That’s why you are a socialist ... its not a label .. its a FACT ...
I’’ll go ahead and put lipstick on your pig for u ... democratic socialist ... ...
I mean I don't know if you don't speak the truth because it's a deliberate lie or because you are ignorant. However - I'm happy to correct you and set you straight.
I've never said I am for free education. I've absolutely never said I am for student debt forgiveness and I am against it.
I don't know about others but I expect there are many that you'd label with that who never expressed or agree with it.
Finally - Germany has free healthcare for all. It has free education for all. They don't have debt relief (can you work out why?) .... and they are still a Capitalist society ! Wow. Who knew!
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
One of the problems/issues with criticizing trump on EVERYTHING (and he deserves some criticism on some things) is this: Read, listen to the 2 or 3 videos of Fauci himself speaking. Read the quotes he said.
Yet, people are blaming Trump for not acting sooner.........and today, they're saying he should've listened to Fauci sooner.
For those that can't or won't take 2 minutes to read, and 2 1/2 minutes to watch: "On January 21, 2020, when asked about how deadly the virus is and if Americans should be worried, Dr. Fauci responded: “This is not a major threat for the people in United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”
" In an unearthed audio from January 26, Dr. Fauci assured Americans that the coronavirus is nothing to worry about. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States,” Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable John Catsimatidis. Dr. Fauci added:“It isn’t something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about.” Notwithstanding what Dr. Fauci had said, U.S. President Trump decided to issue a travel ban five days later."
But, you don't see that reported anywhere, hence the techstartups link. Never heard of that site in my life, but the audio, and video of Fauci is right there.
And we have the haters on here, been hating for well over 3 years and blaming Trump for anything and everything......and they'll ignore this, and continue to bash.
Trump doesn't deserve criticism for everything. He has done some good things. Not many but some.
As for what Fauci said on that date .... I'd bet a million bucks he was told to say that from Trump. No way to know and maybe we'll never know, but damn it's a particularly odd thing for an actual expert to say. . . .
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
One of the problems/issues with criticizing trump on EVERYTHING (and he deserves some criticism on some things) is this: Read, listen to the 2 or 3 videos of Fauci himself speaking. Read the quotes he said.
Yet, people are blaming Trump for not acting sooner.........and today, they're saying he should've listened to Fauci sooner.
For those that can't or won't take 2 minutes to read, and 2 1/2 minutes to watch: "On January 21, 2020, when asked about how deadly the virus is and if Americans should be worried, Dr. Fauci responded: “This is not a major threat for the people in United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”
" In an unearthed audio from January 26, Dr. Fauci assured Americans that the coronavirus is nothing to worry about. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States,” Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable John Catsimatidis. Dr. Fauci added:“It isn’t something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about.” Notwithstanding what Dr. Fauci had said, U.S. President Trump decided to issue a travel ban five days later."
But, you don't see that reported anywhere, hence the techstartups link. Never heard of that site in my life, but the audio, and video of Fauci is right there.
And we have the haters on here, been hating for well over 3 years and blaming Trump for anything and everything......and they'll ignore this, and continue to bash.
Washington Examiner is far right of the political spectrum ... and they are defending Fauci and those comments you just quoted.
Common throughout Fauci’s piece were sentences such as these: “The extent, if any, to which such transmission might lead to a sustained epidemic remains an open and critical question. So far, it appears that the fatality rate of 2019-nCoV is lower than that of SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV; however, the ultimate scope and effects of the outbreak remain to be seen. ... The trajectory of this outbreak is impossible to predict.”
So, no, Fauci wasn’t predicting a pandemic. But he also wasn't saying there would be no pandemic. He was expressing uncertainty about a new and mysterious disease and warning that it could become really bad.
Everybody is wrong sometimes. The key is that when we speak about the future, especially, we should acknowledge the possibility we may be wrong.
The statements that have looked the worst (Trump early on, HuffPost writer Nick Robins-Early, that bad Vox tweet, and many others, such as Trish Regan's) all conveyed a misplaced certainty about what was going to happen. They spoke from ignorance with confidence, when they should have spoken, like Fauci, with humility.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
You'd bet a million that what he said, he was told to say?
A guy, with his reputation on the line, would lie, when has has no reason to? His job, but he's changed his opinion since, and his job is still on the line. Having been in his position as long as he has been, he doesn't need the 'job'.
Nah, he wasn't told to say that. It's just your opinion and view. Biased and slanted.
Trump was in full "down play this thing" mode... I am sure he was given direction. Yep -my opinion. I didn't claim anything else. Thanks. No doubt your "biased and slanted" opinion continues to think Trump handled this well, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
AND ... if ypu read the f/u post... Fauci appears to have been quoted inaccurately and out of context. Go figure.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
AND ... if ypu read the f/u post... Fauci appears to have been quoted inaccurately and out of context. Go figure.
First, I never have said trump handled this whole thing well. What I HAVE said is he hasn't handled nearly as poorly as you, some others on here, and the msm, have said.
And, when I posted the article, AND the video of Fauci saying what he said.........VIDEO......you're going to say he was quoted out of context, and inaccurately?
Except it's not "video" it's a series of edited 20 second clips.... not the whole thing. Doesn't that make you a little suspicious?
And when the interviewer in the first clip loads is question with - "so nothing to worry about - right?" -- and Fauci clearly doesn't agree and talks about taking it seriously ....
Yeah - I'll dismiss your link as a hatchet job. Thanks
The opinion piece I found was from a far right Trump supporting media site ... interesting they are sticking up for Fauci? No?
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Trump was in full "down play this thing" mode... I am sure he was given direction. Yep -my opinion. I didn't claim anything else. Thanks. No doubt your "biased and slanted" opinion continues to think Trump handled this well, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
AND ... if ypu read the f/u post... Fauci appears to have been quoted inaccurately and out of context. Go figure.
Perhaps you would be interested in listening to Fauci himself, once again? In his own words? From today?????? Once again, I repeat, once AGAIN, these are his own words, on video, with audio:
Trump was in full "down play this thing" mode... I am sure he was given direction. Yep -my opinion. I didn't claim anything else. Thanks. No doubt your "biased and slanted" opinion continues to think Trump handled this well, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
AND ... if ypu read the f/u post... Fauci appears to have been quoted inaccurately and out of context. Go figure.
Perhaps you would be interested in listening to Fauci himself, once again? In his own words? From today?????? Once again, I repeat, once AGAIN, these are his own words, on video, with audio:
Now, how are you going to argue that?
I don't want to read all the insult trading posts, but I watched this last video that arch posted and his comments on it.
Will someone please tell me what the argument is? If so, I will try and respond on how the video relates to the said argument.
So are you saying the 20 second clips are verified by your new clip?
Or are you saying that he isn't doing this because of direction from Trump? He's talking about an interview with CNN this weekend. His response at the end was about him doing the interview and "correcting" perceived criticism of Trump ... which caused Trump to tweet that Fauci should be fired!
It's entirely possible that the January interview was not influenced by Trump to calm things down ... and it's entirely probable that the entire interview was much more cautious than the 20 second "gotcha" moment you are trying to make important.
And yes - I know you have said Trump isn't perfect, though I don't recall any actual specific criticism. My comment there was in reaction to your comments about a biased and slanted opinion....
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
It's not an argument, it's a discussion. lol It goes way back, but suffice it to say some on here want to blame trump for not listening to his advisors.
I posted a link, with quotes and video, from Fauci. That was then downplayed as "he had to say what he said", and I then posted the last video of Fauci himself, once again, stating the exact opposite of what the trump haters have stated. Period. The only rebuttal was an article, written by a newspaper writer.
I've posted quotes, video, audio, and yes, my last post, yet ANOTHER video of Fauci himself saying exactly the opposite of what the 'blame trump for everything' crowd has been saying.
I listened .... and what is the point that you are trying to prove? I don't lose ... I am trying to find out how you are trying to frame this thing. But ... you know, claim victory if it makes you feel good.
Back to the 20 second clip and the quote that implied Fauci was telling the world this was no big deal back at the end of January .... I will continue to say with supporting anecdotal evidence = His comments are clipped to a 20 second sound bite and out of context. I will also believe, without supporting media, his public speaking on this subject would have been influenced by the direction of Trump.
And if anecdotal evidence is good enough to support a wild unproven medicine to fight CV it should be good enough to support my comment that his words are out of context!
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
FWIW: I think Fauci comes across as credible. There a lot of "got you" moments in politics and the press. There are a ton of things said when these guys are trying to figure things out. Not everything is correct.
I would take Fauci at his word though and I don't think he is lying to protect Trump.
I just showed you a video of him denying everything you just said.
My dear Lord Jesus, are you ..........
This is why intelligent conversation can't happen on here. Haters gotta hate, despite hearing and seeing and reading exactly what was said, by Fauci.
And the only comeback you have is "...20 second clip..."
Dude, the first link had 3 audio/video links of him. There is no mistaking his own self, saying his own words!!!
The next link I provided was him speaking for over 2 minutes - his own words. And he said exactly what he wanted, and also exactly what you can't comprehend, apparently.
No you didn't. You showed me a video from this weekend of him refuting the CNN interview from this weekend that was interpreted as him criticizing Trump and he walked that back.
The second video had ZERO connection or correlation to your 20 second clips (all 3 of them) which are trying to present that he was down playing the virus as a threat to the USA from the end of January. There is no agenda or hate. Your just throwing crap out there as if it proves something but it doesnt. The problem is how you want this to mean some fabulous gotcha moment.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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