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some good stuff here.

https://www.giants.com/video/2020-nfl-draft-preview-david-diehl-shaun-o-hara-break-down-o-line-class

If 4 OT are taken before #10, then there's a good chance that one of either Isaiah Simmons, Derrick Brown, or Jeffrey Okudah will be there for us. If that happens, you take them, and get on the phone with the Redskins about Trent Williams for our second 3rd round pick and a 2021 4th or 5th rounder (or a player).

pfff.... offer our 4th rounder. Tell him they get that or we take an OT with our 2nd rounder.

At least start off playing hardball and make them work for anything better.
BUT, there's still that contract thing.... you do NOT make a trade unless you've worked things out with his agent on what a contract needs to look like.


BUT, if 4 OT and Simmons is gone, that means there's a decent chance that the Skins took one of the OT, which means they're likely to release Trent after the draft.... so, stick with that 4th, or just wait for him to be released.

Plan A for a starting LT should never be a rookie Draft pick regardless of where they are taken.

JT (as we know) was an exception to the rule.

I hope that this will be addressed with a Veteran LT after the Draft.

So, I agree that we should not pigeonhole ourselves to one position with our 10th (or first) pick/selection.

That makes sense. But we have to come out of this draft with a viable starting LT, whether by draft or by trade.

No, we have to come out of this offseason with one.
It's just very, very preferable to have it be from the Draft because that means we have a shot at having fixed a problem for the next decade.

Just my opinion, Cap...........but, I don't know if it is all that simple. I am not saying I am correct because I haven't studied these dudes enough, but from what I have seen, they all have question marks.

Also, I agree w/Dave that if all four get picked, that means that guys like Simmons, Brown, and Okudah will fall.

I think trading down would be dumb.

After reading Joe T's "gun to head" rankings, I don't believe he really ranked them in that order. I somehow feel it is the exact opposite. I don't think Joe would give away anything. I am probably crazy, but I just feel that way.

3 QBs will go top 9: Burrow, Tua, Herbert
Simmons will go top 9
Okudah will go top 9
Young will go top 9


That’s 6 picks that I think are close to locks in the top 9

So, IMO, the worst case would be if Thomas and Wirfs are also selected.

At that point we choose between: Brown, Kinlaw, Becton, Wills ... or trade back

I agree on all points. Not so much supporting a trade down, just opining that it is not out of the question that all OT we are interested in are gone by #10.

I am not 100% sold on any of them. And if Simmons, Brown or Okudah are there, then that is a nice get at #10.

As I said in another thread, I'm rooting for as many QBs to go in front of us as possible. I think teams reaching for QBs is the way for one of those elite guys to fall to us at 10.

Hey... Trubisky went at pick 2. It's possible.

The article was re-posted on the previous page. A quote from an unnamed scout mentioned the L-word, in addition to a related statement in the body of the summary report.

j/c

Despite the thoughts of many, I simply do not believe that there are four LT candidates ranked as worthy of the #10 pick. I've boiled it down to two of them in Thomas and Wills. That doesn't make me right as to who those top 2 will be, but to think there are four candidates at LT worthy of the #10 pick is just too far fetched for me to buy into.

That is the only worrisome thought that crosses my mind with Thomas.

All I can think of is that Brian Robiskie was touted as "the most NFL-ready WR" in his draft. It didn't mean he was the best WR; not by a long shot.

At 38 years old, I worry about signing Peters. At his age, when his effectiveness drops off, it will drop off quicker than an anchor making its way to the ocean floor.

And I really have no idea in regards to how I have the LT's rated. I'm just a fan like everyone else. It's just that the idea of having four players at the same position, other than QB, being rated in the top 10 of your draft board just doesn't add up to me. I understand some have this draft class touted as being heavily laced with OT talent, but four of them in the top 10?

If teams actually pick all four of these guys that highly there are going to be a couple of teams very disappointed.

j/c

Cordy Glenn is out there as well.

I would have to do more homework on him. The Bills actually replaced him at LT with a draft pick named Jonah Williams who they drafted in the first round in 2019, a rookie. Glenn was only moved back to LT after Williams sustained a season ending injury. So Glenn was the Bills plan B and they went to the extent of using a first round draft pick to replace him.

I don't know if that means he isn't capable of doing the job but it certainly is cause for a question mark.

Yeah the Bills moved on from him and he was traded to the Bengals who haven’t re-signed him. I threw his name out as a possible stop gap player if we wanted to draft a lower ranked LT

I don't think people should think of Trent Williams as a short-term fix. He's 31 going on 32 by the season's start - hardly ancient for OL. He should be able to perform at a high, if not elite, level for 4-5 more years. Heck, we're talking about bringing Jason Peters in and he's almost 7 years older than Williams.

I believe Glenn has done his best work at RT.

If you think you know a player is good you are losing the battle.

Agree 100 percent...History lesson, Ernie Davis paired with Jim Brown...best 1/2 ever..never happened...Cinc Tackle last year, tore knee in practice..first rnd pick...didn't play a down...NOTHING is for sure except death and taxes....we'll know what the plan is soon....tomorrow, but injuries, character/want to, pandemic....time will tell how we did in the draft....hoping we get it right...like with Joe Thomas....GO Browns!!!

Sure what does he know compared to the experts on here.

Dudes stunk at evaluations so far ... just because he was a great player doesn’t mean he’s a great evaluator ...

Rumor has it Ted Williams sucked as a hitting instructor .... go figure ....

I was thinking more about teaching the position than evaluator. But when he talks about the LT he likes I listen.