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We are oppisites on this subject. I could die from this virus. [Many folks around here don't give a crap not the word I wanted to use] They want nothing more than to be able to do what the hell they want whenever they want, and to hell with everybody else.

Did you mean that you and I are opposite of many folks on this issue or that you and I have opposite views? Because I agree w/you and I am wondering if I did a poor job of wording my post.

Your wording was just fine. I am just frustrated and tired of defending the average person. Who won't stand up for themselves.

Yep, selfish people. The world revolves around them.

Get with the program or stay in your home. If not, fine them and smack them in the face 3 times.

Why not? Like I have said all along, testing doesn't mean much.

OK....you were clean a few days ago, that doesn't mean you are today.

Great, you were clean in the past. That has nothing to do with today or tomorrow.

Not sure this is a PFF topic but it's here so ... I see the issue with using a limited supply of testing for pro-sports is that it uses up the limited supply in a non critical area for the populations overall health.

I agree 100% that the test - at that moment - may not mean too much, especially for an athlete about to take the field. But taking away the ability to use that test on someone else who is sick, might be sick, was exposed or is going to expose others is important. To me the single biggest challenge to the whole CV issue is that we do not have enough data.... those tests should be used to try to complete as much meaningful data as possible. Just my take.

Bingo! Of course there are too many who seem to believe "it's all about me"...

j/c...

I'm interested to see the projected numbers. The NFL cap has been spiking as a result of many factors, but I never thought it would continue on it's wildly aggressive trend forever. This current climate could exacerbate it.

Maybe Myles signs his deal sooner rather than later?

They aren't illegal. The commerce clause of the constitution allows the federal government to restrict movement to prevent the spread of communicable diseases from other countries to ours or from state to state. The Secretary of Health and Human services is over this. The CDC is also given broad powers of quarantine. They can order you to stay put or wear a mask.

The individual states and local communities also have the power of quarantine and enforce local hygiene practices.

You may not like it, I may not like it, but it is well within the purview of the law on every level, be it Federal, State, Tribal, or Local.

I don't "think" so either, but people do die from this and it is now shown its isn't just 70 year old's and older who die.

No doubt they have a better chance. Each decade you live, you are a decade closer to meeting your match. Something is going to catch all of us sooner or later. I don't think anybody gets out of this life alive. Poof, it over. You are only a memory as long as there are people who still think of you from time to time. After that, you are just a name on a gravestone.

Many of you are 20-40 somethings. Well, your parents aren't. You probably have some Aunts and Uncles who aren't. Grandparents? In some cases, maybe a brother or sister, cousins?

My mother was the youngest daughter in a family of 7 sisters. I have cousins who were like 20 years older than I was, they were adults to me when I was a little tyke....most of the oldest have passed. You get up in to your late 80's, early 90's that happens.

Yes they have broad powers when it comes to health concerns, but those actions still have to be reasonable and relevant. This isn't a small pox outbreak. Consistency in enforcement also lends itself to the legitimacy of such orders. We keep talking about the need for a vaccine. Apparently a leftist cause is just that.

Since we're on the subject, I predict that we will see full stadiums Week 1. With Goodell's mea culpa, the NFL is guaranteed to be the social justice platform. Its been established that it is not a public health hazard to gather en masse for social justice causes. Any delay by Goodell and he's going to be accused of trying to deny them that platform.

Well I have tickets for Washington September 27th I hope I get to Go

Interesting take, but no, I don't think it works out that way.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I would like to put this out there though, you clearly have your stance on the COVID stuff. I just want say that I appreciate that you've been decent and respectful towards those who maybe don't see it the same way as you.

Thanks man. I have always tried to do that. It's how I was raised. I try not to turn the corner unless it seems people aren't treating me the same.

Disagreeing and being disrespectful are entirely different issues.

j/c...

So, I'm curious why it's okay, as of now, for colleges/universities to open dorms, classrooms, dining halls, etc.

Here is the result of your concern about freedom and illegalities. See the trend of the U.S. (freedom-lovers) vs. the other countries (strict ban). Sorry, but your viewpoint is killing people.

Coronavirus Stats

When they start okaying crowds of tens of thousands, if not over 100,000 gathering in one place, at one time get back to me.

Of the colleges I've heard of reopening, they have very struct guidelines in place when they reopen.

My God man.........

I'm talking about 200 people per floor, LIVING together. 200 people, all going out to classes where they encounter hundreds, if not thousands of people every day.

200 people, sharing, per floor, 2 bathrooms - 1 for guys, 1 for women.

I promise, if I said 1+1=2, you'd twist it into something else.

I don't agree with that, but states are under pressure too. If you aren't collecting tax money, it's hard to pay the bills.

ODOT workers and Highway Patrol officers don't just magically get paid...and I know you know that.


If you aren't collecting tax dollars, you aren't going to be able to maintain services.

it's not and they are not sure if they will. My son is going to be a freshman and they are uncertain if he will be allowed to go back in the fall.

His senior year of baseball was completely destroyed. His summer baseball team fell through and he is only going to T3 to practice a couple of times a week. To compound matters more, he has to walk-on this year and complete with 5th/6th year kids. It's a total mess.

My daughter just tested positive for Covid-19 and I very much understand your concern. I know she may not want to, but would she be able to commute to classes? Even better, can she take online classes this semester, even if there aren't as many available?

Nope, and nope. First, she is required to live on campus, as long as the dorms are open. (ya know, like last semester when they closed the campus after about a month, but reimbursed us less that a fifth of housing and meals)

We live "too far away" for her to be considered a commuter student. 50 miles.

Can she take on-line classes? That's what she did last semester. Problem is, if the university isn't offering them, it's tough to take them,

As I've read from several schools - actually more than several - "we need heads in beds."

Follow the money.

That sucks!

I won't tell you what to do, but I know how I am feeling right now. Keep your baby safe.

Ask to have her quarantine dorm room made IT available for classes. We have too many rule makers handing down requirements that just get to be conflicting, as in personal safety, which I believe is the first and foremost driver for decision-making.

One public official, I think it was in Texas, actually said we must move forward and we all (not certain about the "in tribe" versus "you other guys") must expect to have some increases as the price to pay. They are having ongoing daily spikes in cases, admissions, and hospital treatments. These are explained away (Pandemic point dude Pence & Co.) as merely minor upticks where we tested more. They are increasing. And the other official part was the reassurance that was OK, because they had enough hospital beds and capacity to accommodate surges at this time.

I do not care how we rationalize or ideologically spin it. It is not OK to see these as numbers and suggest it is not important. We could control more of this with personal conduct, better than we are. This really upset me.

Be safe, Dawgs.

Good God man!

I was just pointing out the difference. Feel free to carry on though...

if your not gonna have fans then just cancel the season. This is getting ridiculous.

As long as it is feasible to have games and televise them, the show WILL go on. There are waaaay too many billions of dollars at stake. Fans don't matter; only fan wallets matter.

They might even get additional revenue from their TV partners, because no live fans means that many more tuning in instead.

While that is a 'devious' way to look at it, I would guess that you are probably right...

I agree. If just 1 player on a team tests positive, the whole team needs to sit 2 weeks.

You can't play a season that way.

College and Pro sports are pretty much dead.....maybe for a long time, or forever.

Just speaking the truth.


Maybe pocket billiards will made some sort of comeback.

The sad reality of "if one team member gets it the entire team will have to be quarantined" makes the league's shiny optics of an actual season seem very unrealistic.

If they do try it, by mid season it will most likely look a lot more like the year they had replacement players than an NFL season.

Te only difference in our opinions is a rather simple one. We agree on the opinion that it certainly won't work.

I do however see it happening. Owners, players and fans want to see football. Hell, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I am one of them. And one thing I've learned over the course of my lifetime is that when people want something bad enough, it never ceases to amaze me what they can convince themselves of no matter the odds against it.

They should look at other sports for examples of how they are restarting.
And how those sports are faring before making a decision to not have a season.