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Football is so different than baseball and basketball from a control standpoint.
Way more people involved. Much harder to control.
Baseball just being played practices social distance.
Basketball way less players to monitor.
Football has a huge support staff. 53 plus regular roster 90+ in camp.
I know there is tremendous pressure to play. We all want that. But just from a practicality view so difficult.
I see it starting and maybe not finishing.
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No football, fans or no fans, would be quite disappointing.
It seems like a tremendous challenge for all of the major sports to start back up with out issues arising. So many players have tested positive in college and a number in the NFL already.
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Not trying to burst anyone’s bubble, but I’d say there’s a 20% chance, we get partially filled stadiums halfway though the season.
We need the NBA and MLB to return, mainly for a morale boost, but also to provide a template. The template for professional sports during a pandemic. This plague is going to be here for a while.
Someone has to be first through the wall.
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Not trying to burst anyone’s bubble, but I’d say there’s a 20% chance, we get partially filled stadiums halfway though the season.
We need the NBA and MLB to return, mainly for a morale boost, but also to provide a template. The template for professional sports during a pandemic. This plague is going to be here for a while.
Someone has to be first through the wall. I don't believe you'll see partially filled stadiums. I think it's full capacity or not at all. Season tickets holders would outraged. What do you tell season ticket holders that get stuck with the home game against the Raiders or Redskins while this group of season ticket holders get the MNF against the Ravens or the game against the Steelers? Teams would be overwhelmed with angry STHs. I do agree the NBA will be the template. Even more so than the MLB. Closer contact, more physical.
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Testing is accessible to all. It takes less than 2 hours to receive results.
The time to stop panicking should come now. America needs sports as well as work! The youth 40 and younger is not effected to the degree the over 60 crowd is. Yes Isolation must be made for those who have the virus. But recovery is fast and positive very few players have low immunity to have a big negative impact.
We know how to keep it under control. Areas must be wiped down regularly. Showers taken and possibly more than one as in take a shower break especially in the heat of training camp.
From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.
Games will be on in September. Heck we might even have a Vaccine by then
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A 100 game season is being set up for Baseball.
NBA is having a 22 team finish of the season (8 regular season games) and then playoffs.
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Testing is accessible to all. It takes less than 2 hours to receive results.
The time to stop panicking should come now. America needs sports as well as work! The youth 40 and younger is not effected to the degree the over 60 crowd is. Yes Isolation must be made for those who have the virus. But recovery is fast and positive very few players have low immunity to have a big negative impact.
We know how to keep it under control. Areas must be wiped down regularly. Showers taken and possibly more than one as in take a shower break especially in the heat of training camp.
From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.
Games will be on in September. Heck we might even have a Vaccine by then Players may be young and healthy... have you seen a photo of Andy Reid, Romeo Crennel, or many of the other overweight, over 60, coaches that work closely with these young players? How many coaches need to be thrown into the volcano to appease the fans?
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A 100 game season is being set up for Baseball. Not so much. They can't even agree on if it will be 60 or 70 games. Owners have said they will not agree to 70 games.
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At this point is not just about game attendance.
Camp has a roster of 90+. Then add all the support personnel. After a point players go home. All the others go about their lives.
People are bound to come into contact. Then return to team facilities.
I understand that precautions will take place but it will not take much. There are 32 teams. That means a lot of folks have to be controlled.
A few contract and bingo. What happens if a team has 3 guys with the virus?
I am not trying to be Chicken Little. I want football bad. But the logistics don't add up.
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In life I have found one thing to be a constant. If people want something bad enough, they'll convince themselves that terrible ideas that really don't add up make perfect sense. This is why there are so many bank robberies. 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ml...-19/3222576001/ Phillies close Florida facility after five players, three staffers test positive for COVID-19
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It is not possible to play national sports without putting players at risk. Airports, hotels, training facilities, practices, etc. All require social contact. You can't fly on a plane(one large tube) without contact.If one person with Covid is on the plane everyone is exposed.Six feet means nothing with you are in an enclosed space with air circulation. The only way to hold camp semi-safely would be to quarantine every player and member of the staff for 15 days and then house them all together without outside contact for the entire camp. Even then, how do you move a team across the country to play another team without exposure? How do you block, tackle, etc others without exposure? The NFL(and NCAA) season needs to be canceled until there is a viable vaccine. Or, stop pretending like you can do it safely and just admit the season is more important than the health of your players and their families.
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Testing is accessible to all. It takes less than 2 hours to receive results.
The time to stop panicking should come now. America needs sports as well as work! The youth 40 and younger is not effected to the degree the over 60 crowd is. Yes Isolation must be made for those who have the virus. But recovery is fast and positive very few players have low immunity to have a big negative impact.
We know how to keep it under control. Areas must be wiped down regularly. Showers taken and possibly more than one as in take a shower break especially in the heat of training camp.
From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.
Games will be on in September. Heck we might even have a Vaccine by then Players may be young and healthy... have you seen a photo of Andy Reid, Romeo Crennel, or many of the other overweight, over 60, coaches that work closely with these young players? How many coaches need to be thrown into the volcano to appease the fans? That is true. Also, while most young healthy people come through Covid fine not all of them do and there is evidence that it adversely affects your lung function for a long time after you have "recovered" Just because you lived does not mean you are 100% right away. A player may survive but lose a couple of years off his career before he is 100% recovered.
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https://theathletic.com/1882572/2020/06/19/clemson-tigers-football-covid-19-positive-tests/Earlier this week we learned that University of Texas football team tested 13 positive COVID-19 cases. Alabama has 8 positive COVID-19 cases. Auburn has 3 positive COVID-19 cases. And today we hear Clemson's team has 23 positive COVID-19 cases. Southern college athletes getting hit hard. Older coaches beware.
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If we can't develop a vaccine, sports is over. There is no way to play the games safely and no way to keep fans safe. Those are the facts. Some people need to get their head out of the sand. Team sports are pretty much going to go away, never to be seen again.
It's a new era for human existence. It is what it is.
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If we can't develop a vaccine, sports is over. There is no way to play the games safely and no way to keep fans safe. Those are the facts. Some people need to get their head out of the sand. Team sports are pretty much going to go away, never to be seen again.
It's a new era for human existence. It is what it is. you can get a vaccine, I am opting out. anything the govt tells me to do for my health I will consider not doing it or the opposite.
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They will try to create a bubble within the work environment.
Everyone from player, coach, to towel boy gets tested.
After that environment is set all must adhere strictly to the protocols set up. In golf if they get the virus and did follow the protocol they receive compensation for missing camp. If they did not and got the virus they will not receive anything.
Yes the odds are the bubble cannot sustain 100% negative testing results. The question will be once somebody does get the virus. In the environment they have created how many will also get the virus. If its contained to 10% or less that is not bad for around 200 involved. How many are players??? But if its something like 30% that is a big set back. And a new action should be made...
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Meanwhile in Europe soccer is back ... I'm fairly shocked that folks don't believe there is a way to play sport. Most sport isn't 100% safe to begin with ... Taking every possible precaution while having staff and players sign waivers would be as safe as you can get. I'm sure the players would sign. If there are older coaches who are concerned, 1 wear PPE and 2 coach from the safety of the media suites and press box.
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I'd be shocked if players agreed to sign waivers. i just do not see that happening. Millionaires waiving their rights? Doubtful. In other news... Los Angeles Times @latimes Breaking: UCLA football players are demanding that a “third-party health official” be on hand for all football activities to see that protocols for COVID-19 are followed, saying they don't trust coach Chip Kelly’s program to act in their best interest Los Angeles Times @latimes The players also demand that anonymous whistleblower protections are provided for athletes and staff to report violations; and that each player can make a decision about whether to return to Westwood without fear of losing his scholarship. https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1274066668390502400 https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1274076918124437504
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There's a lot to unravel there. Looks like there are some trust issues going on at UCLA.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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what a shock that Chip Kelly involved in some shenanigans
I would imagine that if there's no games played the players dont get payed anyting. Zip
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what a shock that Chip Kelly involved in some shenanigans
I would imagine that if there's no games played the players dont get payed anyting. Zip I’m so glad we dodged the Kelly bullet. The guy is not everything Oregon made him appear to be. He’s a slightly above average coach with an ego the size of a mountain.
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Interesting close. Especially if some teams get snakebitten with spike numbers. Football is messier with lots of folks to clean up after, monitor, test, protect. Might not be able to finish as you said. SB if it happens may be won by the best bench or PS. Game status and any quarantines might be a chess match. Bye week or weeks might be crucial.
FWIW, I was watching TV late int early morning, and one sport I like to watch was on about 3 AM. It was AFL, Australian Football League, played on a round field. Insane amounts of running, collisions, heavy breathing, and little if any crowd. Thought of this thread. I don't really understand all of it any more than I do modern art or scoring figure skating and cricket. Real sports though. I do not know to what degree they are handling this or the specifics of their going about it. Brutal grind and contact playing it.
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Australian Football League...Brutal grind and contact playing it.. Love the game. And note the lack of protective equipment...
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Me too!
I got bruised just watching it. Some real skills there!
A) Think their guys could play NFL? B) Could NFL play their game?
I would say yes to both, but what a sport to watch. Highly recommended. Wear your mouthguard just to watch.
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Me too!
I got bruised just watching it. Some real skills there!
A) Think their guys could play NFL? B) Could NFL play their game?
I would say yes to both, but what a sport to watch. Highly recommended. Wear your mouthguard just to watch. I'm still waiting to see the Browns fake a punt and let the Scottish Hammer carry the rock...
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I think we could fake it and get it. Love his leg! 
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I got bruised just watching it. Some real skills there!
A) Think their guys could play NFL? B) Could NFL play their game?
I would say yes to both, but what a sport to watch. Highly recommended. Wear your mouthguard just to watch. I'm still waiting to see the Browns fake a punt and let the Scottish Hammer carry the rock... I wonder if anybody would attempt to tackle him when wearing his kilt... 
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That's funny! 
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"From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.", TAB.
That isn't what the Dr are saying and I would point out the south where it is much hotter is witnessing a spike and that to me means it doesn't care about heat.
Can't ignore what we know at this point and this, this is ignoring what we KNOW.
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j/c...I know not a contact sport but I mentioned before what we have to go on is Golf as they made their comeback this past weekend as well as the prior weekend.
Nick Watney was tested positive for Corvid 19 - after feeling sick when finishing his Thursday round with 2 other golfers and Caddies.
So far none of them are showing signs of having the Virus. Including several other Golfers who had some contact with Watney. So yeah I know Golf is not a contact sport still there was/is a fear in WHAT IF's 1 becomes 30...
So far the result are good!
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See Brazil for how well it spreads in hot weather.
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If we can't develop a vaccine, sports is over. There is no way to play the games safely and no way to keep fans safe. Those are the facts. Some people need to get their head out of the sand. Team sports are pretty much going to go away, never to be seen again.
It's a new era for human existence. It is what it is. you can get a vaccine, I am opting out. anything the govt tells me to do for my health I will consider not doing it or the opposite. Ah, a flat-earther. Science is voodoo eh? *snicker* You can thank your lucky stars that a Polio vaccine was developed. I've seen what Polio did to its victims and I promise you wouldn't like it one tiny little bit. Over 120,000 Dead Americans and you fear the vaccine more? Alrighty then. I will GLADLY take the vaccine. Just like I got the smallpox and Polio vaccine when I was a kid, and just like I get a flu shot every year.
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"From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.", TAB.
That isn't what the Dr are saying and I would point out the south where it is much hotter is witnessing a spike and that to me means it doesn't care about heat.
Can't ignore what we know at this point and this, this is ignoring what we KNOW. Really? Then explain how Texas and Florida are hotspots right now... Huge rise in cases in both States in the dead of Summer. Arizona too. Most of the South is experiencing the same. Big rise in cases. Covid doesn't seem to know that it isn't supposed to spread in the summer heat.
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I think you misunderstood what Bone was saying. He quoted another poster and then basically said the same thing you are. Not a big deal, but I just wanted to clear that up.
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 I would pay to see it. He also probably tackles well. Love what this guy brings to the game!
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"From what I understand and I could be wrong the virus does not travel well in HEAT.", TAB.
That isn't what the Dr are saying and I would point out the south where it is much hotter is witnessing a spike and that to me means it doesn't care about heat.
Can't ignore what we know at this point and this, this is ignoring what we KNOW. Yeah that was me that said that not Bone and I stated clearly that I could be wrong. What I remember is early on in this virus, talking about March, I read or heard on the TV that is was able to spread BETTER in a cold air environment and I think that was referring to Hospitals who keep the air cold cause it usually halts the spread of germs and diseases. So I took that to mean that it would spread less in warmer weather...ergo my ASSumption. 
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