DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum David Njoku requests trade

I'm sure it's Seibert....

I see it differently.

My guess is it is Hooper. Maybe Vers' wording was a bit off. I don't think it is because Njoku doesn't like Hooper. He just doesn't like we brought him in because he knows Hooper is going to get double or triple the looks.

It's hard to play your way in to a big contract when you get 25 targets a season. Catching 18 balls a season isn't going to cut it.

I have it on a real quality source, that Nojoku wants to leave because he doesn't like the detergent they use to clean the uniforms, and they never have enough cottage cheese in the buffet,

Well there you have it, folks!

Are you saying that's what caused the Tide to turn?

He was in Texas for the workout with Baker and some of the Receivers... So, unless something happened down there, I think this is BS

If he wants traded so be it. But the Browns would be wise to keep him. They extended him and plan on him being a contributor. His new agent ain't getting paid until he gets a new contract. He wants to go somewhere he will be the feature TE, I don't blame him. His next contract will be based on production, with Hooper, no way is he the feature TE.

But if he has a great season, why would you want to get rid of him?

And if he has a great season, would he want to leave? Assuming we would pay him...which we have a lot of mouths to feed.

Because we signed Hooper. You can only allocate so much money to the TE position,

Your off base bro ... this one is real real simple .... it has zero to do with Drew ... Njoku wanted out and he hired the best at doing that ... Njoku may be lazy but he ain’t stupid ... the menZas on here thinking David hired Drew on a whim and had no idea this is what would happen are simply having a real real bad math day ... *L* ...

I’m no Njoku fan (his hands SUCK) and no fan of folks not living up to their contracts and asking out ... this is one case that I’d make an exception for ... the math is real simple here ... it has nothing to do with him being afraid of competition or his agent shaking things up ...

On his best day Njoku is the 4th option ... ON HIS BEST DAY .... on 2 and 3 receiver sets he’s not seeing the field ... he has a SHOT to be on the field when its 4 wide ... A SHOT ... u also have Higgs and Hunt as possible 4ths and Njoku better hope People’s isn’t the real deal or he can be thrown in the mix ... and dawgs ... u really want 2 TE’s on the field when there’s 4 wide sets? ...

IF we go 4 wide and Njoku is one of the 4 wides that means Hunt will be in the backfield ... that would make Njoku the 5th best receiver on the field ...

Njoku will have MINIMAL OPPORTUNITIES with the skill set talent we have ... and w/o opportunity its real hard to produce ... there’s 31 other teams out there that will offer him more opportunity .... dude that thinks KC has more than us is delusional ... but KC would be a horrible landing spot for Njoku also .. *L* ...

It makes all the sense in the world for him to want out ...

Oh .. almost forgot ... some say Kev utilizes the heck out of his TE’s .. LAST YEAR he did ... his 3rd WR last year was a bum ... they didn’t have one ... he also lost Theilan in week 2 or 3 ... he came back and played in la few games ... one game he lasted like 3 snaps ... he was never right again and he missed a lot of games ... After Diggs his 2 best receivers happened to be TE’s ...

So unless OBJ or VG go down ... Kev’s TE’s will not have near the volume of targets they did last year ...

I agree. He would be the last option. When he plays, he is going to be a decoy dummy running around all afternoon.

You just sprint up the seam to clear things out to open it up for the guy who is going to get the ball. Do that all day long, then try to block a bit for the other guy after he catches the ball or is handed the ball.

It seemed rather obvious to me with the signing of Hooper that the new powers that be had determined to move on from Njoku. If he had turned out to be worthy of his draft selection they would never have signed Hooper.

You don't invest that high on a TE if you see big money, future plans on a former first round selection currently on your roster.

As much as some Browns fans believe in Njoku's potential, the current FO seems to have come to the conclusion he was never going to reach it.

Building on that...

I won't be surprised in the least if he starts losing those precious snaps to our rookie TE. Dude can block, and with Hooper being the undisputed #1 with his reliable hands, and our running game being what it is, it won't take many half-hearted or poorly executed running plays by Njoku for the rookie to start eating into his playing time.

Same could be said about the WR position.

It can be said about any position or position group. You can allocate more at WR. Not so much at TE. You don't keep two TE's make $10 mil plus.

David is not making that, but he wants to make that but his chances are pretty slim if he only gets 30 targets a year the next two years.

Hooper is proven. Baker is going to throw to him. Hooper might lead the team in receptions. It's quick read, and Baker is good at that, and Hooper is good at getting open quickly. Boom, Boom, take your 6 to 14 yards and do it again. Break a tackle or get a block, maybe 30 yards.

I am good with that.

According to PFF, Hooper put up most of his numbers in garbage time. He also had an experienced qb throwing to him who is able to read coverages and sticks in the pocket.

Too early to be making predictions about who is going to lead the team in targets.

Which is a good starting point that could mean he is overpaid.

I was a bit shocked when I saw we made him the highest paid TE in the league, but it is what it is. I'm not going to complain about it unless he sucks. Hopefully, there is no correlation between the garbage time numbers and his abilities. I don't know a ton about him, but I used to take him in DFF quite a bit.

No it isn't. It's never too early to predict. You don't predict after the season. Right?

On the flip side Atlanta's defense was putrid for the first half of the season, and below average overall so Atlanta was playing from behind a lot last year.

Again, if he has a great season, why not keep him. We'll find a way.. Don't forget, the CAP increases each year.. More in the bucket to spread around.

I might be wrong, but I thought CAP was tied to revenues. There is no way, if the 2020 NFL season is played, that teams will be raking in the money like in most years. If CAP is tied to revenues, I doubt it will go up for 2021.

I don't get what this kind of message is supposed to do.

Damage control for when his trade request ploy crashes?

Trade ain’t going down, ain’t trying to get booed in the first game of the season

Booed by the cardboard cutouts in the seats?

i see there’s this new app where fans can vote to cheer/boo during games haha should be interesting

I couldn't imagine what that would be like with our fans.

??

I think the message is a simple one that many fans have a hard time understanding often times.

Football is a business. You can love the fan base and a city, but that has nothing to do with the business side. Often times fans have trouble separating the two.

Isn't he under contract for 2 more with the Browns having already picked up his 5th year option?

So are you thinking the Browns dump him after he stinks OR trade him for higher value if he does well so either way will be gone?

Respectfully, you impress me as being fairly high on the skeptic meter. So, even if Njuko has a warm place in his heart for Cleveland he made a conscious choice to voice that feeling now. There was a purpose for making a public statement, what was that reason? He wasn't just emoting. He could have texted his man-crush on Cleveland at any point in his tenure here. I might have chosen to do it after being absolved of involvement in the rape that took place in the apartment he and Higgins shared in 2018. Why not then? Why now?

Just a guess here because there really isn't any way to know for sure.

But it's just my opinion that after Njoku asked for a trade and was thus far denied, he may have felt he needed to square it with the fans..

probably so.

I'm a hard no David, you have done nothing in this league. Nobodies can't demand trades and I would not set that precedent as a new FO, if I am the FO, you can sit out if you want.