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Do we have any more information on what actually happened?

I heard a report that the government had 2.7 tonnes of ammonium nitrate had been seized and stored at that location for over 6 years..

Most likely ammonium Nitrate with aluminum powder. They also use charcoal powder but this looks like with aluminum powder

That is beyond crazy!!!

It was 2700 tonnes ... I remembered incorrectly and updated the post once I posted the links.

Beirut blast site contained 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate, and fireworks


In this drone picture, the destroyed silo sits in rubble and debris after an explosion at the seaport of Beirut, Lebanon, Lebanon, Wednesday, Aug. 5, 2020. The massive explosion rocked Beirut on Tuesday, flattening much of the city's port, damaging buildings across the capital and sending a giant mushroom cloud into the sky. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)













Jon Gambrell And Josef Federman, The Associated Press
Published Wednesday, August 5, 2020 6:18AM EDT

Fireworks and ammonium nitrate appear to have been the fuel that ignited a massive explosion that rocked the Lebanese capital of Beirut, experts and videos of the blast suggest.

The scale of the damage - from the epicenter of the explosion at the port of Beirut to the windows blown out kilometres (miles) away - resembles other blasts involving the chemical compound commonly used as an agricultural fertilizer.

But the compound itself typically doesn't detonate on its own and requires another ignition source. That likely came from a fire that engulfed what initially appeared to be fireworks that were stored at the port.

Online videos of the disaster's initial moments show sparks and lights inside the smoke rising from the blaze, just prior to the massive blast. That likely indicates that fireworks were involved, said Boaz Hayoun, owner of the Tamar Group, an Israeli firm that works closely with the Israeli government on safety and certification issues involving explosives.

“Before the big explosion, you can see in the centre of the fire, you can see sparks, you can hear sounds like popcorn and you can hear whistles,” Hayoun told The Associated Press. “This is very specific behaviour of fireworks, the visuals, the sounds and the transformation from a slow burn to a massive explosion.”

Jeffrey Lewis, a missile expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in Monterey, California, offered a similar assessment.

“It looks like an accident,” Lewis told the AP. “First, there was a fire preceding the explosion, which is not an attack. And some of the videos show munitions what I could call popcorning, exploding like 'pop, pop, pop, pop.”'

He added that “it's very common to see fires detonate explosives.”

“If you have a fire raging next to something explosive, and you don't put it out, it blows up,” he said.

The white cloud that accompanied the massive blast appeared to be a condensation cloud, often common in massive explosions in humid conditions that can follow the shock waves of an explosion, Lewis said.

Orange clouds also followed the blast, likely from toxic nitrogen dioxide gas that's released after an explosion involving nitrates.

Experts typically determine the power of the blast by measuring the crater left behind, which appeared massive in aerial footage shot on Wednesday morning by the AP.

The Beirut blast, based on the crater and glass windows being blown out a distance away, exploded with the force equivalent to detonating at least 2.2 kilotons of TNT, said Sim Tack, an analyst and weapons expert at the Texas-based private intelligence firm Stratfor.

What initially started the fire at the port remains unclear. Beirut was sunny before Tuesday's explosion, with a daily high of 30 degrees Celsius (86 degrees Fahrenheit).

Lebanese Interior Minister Mohammed Fahmi, in comments to a local TV station, made no mention of ignited fireworks but said it appeared the blast was caused by the detonation of more than 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that had been stored in a warehouse at the dock ever since it was confiscated from a cargo ship in 2014. That amount could cause the explosive force seen in the blast Tuesday, Tack said.

Based on the timeline and the size of the cargo, that ship could be the MV Rhosus. The ship was initially seized in Beirut in 2013 when it entered the port due to technical problems, according to lawyers involved in the case. It came from the nation of Georgia, and had been bound for Mozambique.

“Owing to the risks associated with retaining the ammonium nitrate on board the vessel, the port authorities discharged the cargo onto the port's warehouses,” the lawyers wrote in a 2015 article published by shiparrested.com. “The vessel and cargo remain to date in port awaiting auctioning and/or proper disposal.”

It remains unclear what conditions the ammonium nitrate had been stored in - or why tons of an explosive chemical compound had been left there for years. Lebanon already was on the brink of collapse amid a severe economic crisis that has ignited mass protests in recent months.

The devastation surrounding the port resembled other ammonium nitrate explosions, such as the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and a 1947 ship explosion that struck Texas City, Texas.

It also is unclear what conditions a possible shipment of fireworks at the port had been stored in. Fireworks are very common in Lebanon, used to celebrate religious occasions and weddings.

While military explosives are generally safe to transport, common “cheap pyrotechnics” made in China are often of very low quality and can ignite very easily, especially in hot weather, said Hayoun, the Israeli explosives expert.

The “end result,” he added is that “hundreds of tons of energetic materials” were detonated to create a explosion of this magnitude.

“It started definitely with fireworks,” he said.

'40: Who is blaming Trump for the explosion? His calling it an attack is however, fanning the flames of international politics...

Figured this would be widespread by now - I heard a report that the government had 2700 tonnes of ammonium nitrate had been seized and stored at that location for over 6 years... crazy I know. Nothing on how the blaze/explosion started, but that source of such a powerful explosion was that material. . . I was listening to the radio as reporters from the area were interviewed saying that all the glass in their neighborhoods had shattered, and they lived a mile from the location of the blast!!! Just wow.

Well, I’m actually glad this isn’t a terrorist attack, just a really horrible accident.

RIP to those who died, and hope they fix the damage in a reasonable timeframe to get people back into their homes.

I heard on the radio this morning that it was a storage facility for amonium nitrate. They had tons of it stored there.

The president is using those same dead people as a reason to float a conspiracy theory doesn't seem to bother you nearly as much as the people who point it out. Strange.

This is interesting. We had a previous president that would take months to declare an actual terror attack as a terror attack.

It had been there for about 6 years. Came from a Russian cargo ship.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/05/europe/lebanon-russian-ship-blast-intl/index.html

Maybe because you can't always tell moments, days after such a incident.. Maybe it's because the previous president wasn't a MORON who only wants to stoke the flames of hate and fear.

That's a stretch and a half ...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/middleeast/beirut-lebanon-ammonium-nitrate-explosion/index.html

Fábrica de Explosivos Moçambique (FEM), a Mozambican explosives manufacturing company, told CNN that they were the ones who originally ordered the ammonium nitrate that was left at Beirut's port for nearly seven years.
The order of ammonium nitrate was intended for manufacturing explosives for mining companies in Mozambique, the spokesperson said.

Says the person who just added so much to the discussion!

Of course. You're gonna get what you give. Even though you don't offer much.