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The CDC are experts on diseases. I therefore listen to them when it comes to diseases.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Sending kids back to classes is like sticking our tongue in a light socket.


It may take a village to raise a child but it will take an entire vineyard to home school one.

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LOL I know many folks who were home schooled by choice by sober parents...... well at least by parents who were sober during the day.


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Time for school.





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260 Gwinnett County school employees not working due to positive COVID-19 tests, exposure

GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. - Around 260 employees of the Gwinnett County Public Schools have either tested positive for COVID-19 or are quarantining due to possible exposure from a case of the virus, officials with the school system say.

Speaking with FOX 5, the school system confirmed that approximately 260 employees "had been excluded from work" as of Thursday, July 30.

These numbers come as Gwinnett County teachers began to return to work last Wednesday to prepare for the state of the school year on Aug. 12.

Officials say that the number of employees affected is "fluid" as staff members return to work and new reports come in.

"Through tracing, we know that the majority of these cases are the result of community spread, meaning we have people who have called in to report they are positive or a contact who have not been at school or work," a spokesperson for Gwinnett County schools said.

Since the start of the pandemic, the county has been one of the most hit by the spread of the novel coronavirus. As of Sunday afternoon, a total of 17,781 cases have been confirmed from the outbreak's start with 1,996 total hospitalizations and 260 total deaths from the virus.

Hundreds of Gwinnett County School teachers had previously demanded the school system give them an option to work from home. A recent petition for the option had received thousands of signatures. However, several teachers say they were told teachers must work in person starting last week.

One teacher, Ashley Newman, resigned after requesting leave to keep herself and her 4-year-old daughter out of a classroom. Her request was denied.

"The only reason it was denied is because her school is currently open. They’re only accepting it for schools that are closed," she said.

"The district originally indicated that some employees may be able to work from home, however, due to leave options available, those opportunities are very limited," the school system said in a statement.

The school system has acknowledged the number of employees but said that "it would be expected to see positives among our employees" due to the number of COVID cases in the county.

Officials also highlighted precautions such as requiring masks and guidelines for cleaning facilities in case someone tests positive. The school system also says it has a protocol when employees test positive or there are two or more related cases.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/260-gwi...-tests-exposure

Things are off to a great start!


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Where is trump’s fire brigade to put out the COVID-19 sparks that he promised? Must be playing golf. Pffft.


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Where is trump’s fire brigade to put out the COVID-19 sparks that he promised? Must be playing golf. Pffft.


Yes, with Humpty Dumpty. Trump couldn't put him back together again either...


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These Tennessee school districts are already reporting COVID-19 cases after reopening

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/ed...ses/3296529001/

Brownsburg, Plainfield schools latest to report positive cases of COVID-19 Indiana

https://www.wishtv.com/news/coronavirus/brownsburg-high-school-reports-positive-case-of-covid-19/

Harlem High School student tests positive for COVID-19 Georgia

https://www.augustachronicle.com/news/20...V9fIX4udp6jbgZM

Thales Academy 4th grade in Wake Forest under quarantine after student tests positive for coronavirus North Carolina

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/thales-...3E9OYTu5HlaJ1xw

COVID-19 case triggers closure of one Sixes Elementary classroom

https://www.tribuneledgernews.com/local_...JK8rfJ3myjh3ilc

And so it begins.

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This is all Trump's idea!

Let one kid die over being forced to go back to school and it will be Trump's fault.

Any idiot can analyze the situation and determine whether it's a good idea to send kids back to school at a time when the U.S. death rate is 1000 or more per day, at this time.

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So, what are the governors doing? You know, the people that run their individual state? Why is it some how Trump's fault? I guarandamntee you if Trump mandated schools not open, the same people bitching about him now would bitch about his mandate.

Let the DAMN governors make decisions for their state.

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So, what are the governors doing? You know, the people that run their individual state? Why is it some how Trump's fault? I guarandamntee you if Trump mandated schools not open, the same people bitching about him now would bitch about his mandate.

Let the DAMN governors make decisions for their state.




Trump transitioned from this..read below...


Trump encourages governors to 'seriously consider' reopening schools

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-encourages-governors-reopening-schools/story?id=70369592

Transitioned to this...

Trump doubles down on threat to cut funding for schools that don’t reopen
By Yaron SteinbuchJuly 10, 2020 | 9:06am

https://nypost.com/2020/07/10/trump-doubles-down-on-threat-to-cut-funding-for-closed-schools/


It would be great if Trump allowed the governors to make the decision to open the schools in their state..OR NOT PUT KIDS LIVES AT RISK FOR TRUMPS POLITICAL PREFERENCES..!

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What if I were to encourage you to jump off a bridge, against your better judgment.....Would you jump? Or would you be a responsible person?

Never mind.

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arch...when you have been proven wrong, just do the grownup thing and admit it, instead of resorting to "silly" comments.


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He wasn't proven wrong. Your bias is on full display. As always.

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I will do that. But first, you need to prove me wrong. All you've shown so far is the governors have no balls. And I'll add this: Had Obama been president, you'd love everything he did, even if it was the exact same thing Trump has done.

Trump doesn't run the states. Your, and others, hatred of Trump is really pathetic. Makes you look a fool, really.

If Trump said "no in person school", you and a few others on here would be bitching to high heaven about that. Just like when he said no travel to or from China. Idiots called him a xenophobe..............and a month later they called him stupid for not banning all over seas travel.

I'm sure you can't see how ignorant your positions are, or how 2 faced, and biased they are. You're out for 1 thing: And it sucks that you are like that, but, I know you are.

I promise, if Trump came up with the cure for cancer tomorrow, you'd bitch that "he must have known years ago."

If ignorance is bliss, dude, you are living in Eden. Get a grip! It doesn't matter what Trump says or does, you, about 10 others on here, and the msm rip him. It gets old.

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I live in a highly democratic area of the state. The school polled all the parents and 80% wanted to return to school. I’m pretty sure those parents aren’t deciding on what Trump says.


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Here it is.

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I live in a highly democratic area of the state. The school polled all the parents and 80% wanted to return to school. I’m pretty sure those parents aren’t deciding on what Trump says.




Personally, I would not re-open the schools if it were my choice. I taught for a long time and the last seven years were in elementary schools. I saw first-hand just how nasty so many kids are. Sneezing on keyboards, picking their noses, grabbing food from others, coughing w/out covering their mouths, etc, etc. The spread of any disease jets through entire schools each and every freaking year.

However, I do get that a lot of parents want their kids back in school because they can't afford child care while they are working. What's a parent to do?

I don't know what it is like nationally and I guess I am asking, but where I live, the school districts are providing a choice for parents. Your child can return to school or opt to take courses on-line, like they were last spring. Is that not an option in most school districts?

There are no easy answers to this. I just get irritated that folks resort to making everything so political. If there was a Dem in office, the right would be trashing that person for opening the schools.

It's like too many really don't care about the circumstances and consequences and instead, use each and every bit of news as a political bargaining chip.

That's so freaking lame.

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This is the county next to me.
My county is doing online school.

Paulding currently has fewer cases of covid per day than my county. So it will be interesting to see if that changes.

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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
I live in a highly democratic area of the state. The school polled all the parents and 80% wanted to return to school. I’m pretty sure those parents aren’t deciding on what Trump says.


So, you're saying that there are some democrats that want their kids in school? I think you live in Ohio, correct?

So, despite what some on here say, even democrats want their kids in school, and it doesn't matter what Trump wants?

Odd, isn't it?

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So we can all assume that Trump is ticked off that Baron's school is reopening, correct?


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Yes, I live in the Youngstown area.


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Our local schools are doing both so parents that want can opt out. The problem with all online schools is the kids on ieps and those with other disabilities get short changed. My youngest graduated last year so I don’t have to decide what to do when it comes to school. She will be attending Kent and most of her classes will be online. She was going to stay home and commute to save us money. We talked her into going and living on campus because we don’t want her to miss out on the college experience. Hopefully that decision doesn’t bite us in the ass.


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Almost all of the schools around here are also offering 'in person", or, at the parents discretion, on line. K-12.

I'm not hip to the college experience when it requires $5200 per semester due to the u of Tol requiring frosh and sophomores living on campus to 'get the college experience" Bull. They care about the money they get from room and board. Period.

That college experience? 5200 times 4 semesters. Almost $21,000 for a 'college' experience. For 2 years.

On a lighter note, I know several kids that go to Kent state.

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So, why all the Trump bashing if parents have a choice to either send their kids to school or choose the on-line option?

It's a rhetorical question. LOL

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Btw------------not that you would welcome my advice, but I have big-time doubts about how safe the "college experience" will be this year.

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Btw------------not that you would welcome my advice, but I have big-time doubts about how safe the "college experience" will be this year.


Vers, you have no idea on my thoughts on this. When we moved her in Monday, we had 2 hours. Her 3 room mates had 2 hour intervals. Gotta be safe, right?

Yet, in less than 2 weeks, it will be safe for her and 3 others to live together?


Get your food at one of the dining halls, but you can't eat it there.

4 of her classes are on line only, the 5th class has gone from in person, to on line, and back to in person.

But, gotta live on campus. For the 'college experience'.

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I know your thoughts, arch. And I agree w/them. It's total BS.

This probably won't make you any happier, but I was listening to a show about college athletics and they said that universities are having students returning to campus so they can justify playing football again this fall.

This entire thing is so messed up........

I feel bad for those of you who have kids who are still in school. I would seriously consider having my child sit out this upcoming year. We all know that the kids are not going to be practicing safe practices. That is not an indictment on them. It's just the way it is.

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If any of my grandkids get this crap and die, y'all better have me arrested immediately because there will be no safe space for those forcing kids back to school when the body count starts piling up.

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I agree with both of you on this as well. Glad there's some things we can come together on during a global pandemic.

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Does she have to live there, or just pay to live there? Can she still stay home? Just curious.

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If any of my grandkids get this crap and die, y'all better have me arrested immediately because there will be no safe space for those forcing kids back to school when the body count starts piling up.


Who is "forcing" kids back to school?

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So far two of their schools are going plan 'A', mandatory in person classes. The only option is to opt out for the year and be held back or seek private education.

IF they struggle, then they consider hybrid options and online only. smh

That's being forced in my book and I'm furious about it.

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People can say what they will. But whether anyone has been "forced" in going back to school or not, we do have a president pushing the notion and threatening to cut off funding for schools who do not.

The fact is the poorest schools get the most federal funding and can not afford to lose it. The fact is that minorities have a higher rate of Covid infections than anyone else.

If you're trying to deflect away from that and ignoring that... If you're trying to blame others for pointing these things out, then shame on you.


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....The fact is that minorities have a higher rate of Covid infections than anyone else.


I keep reading this on here. but when I looked at these statistics, it looks like infections are inline with % of population in each state with only a couple exceptions. Ohio pretty much being the one that is most out of line.

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/covid-19-cases-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&selectedRows=%7B%22states%22:%7B%22all%22:%7B%7D%7D%7D&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D


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I've been using sources such as the CDC for guidelines on the matter.

Health Equity Considerations and Racial and Ethnic Minority Groups

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/race-ethnicity.html

Here is a link to their data tracker.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/index.html#demographics

It's hard to explain over 20% of the cases and over 22% of deaths being attributed to blacks who are only 13% of the population.

Here's an article from the AMA

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care...t-hard-covid-19

I'm somewhat leery of getting information from news sources but feel much more comfortable when it comes from nationally established and respected health experts. Well, they were respected unto just lately anyway.


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Over 100 people quarantined in Mississippi school district after several test positive for coronavirus

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ove...zBKxzKUOTGgaGA8

Also, trying to portray one area as being the norm, it's not so. I live in a country that is highly supportive of Trump. Here over 40% of parents have opted for virtual learning.


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If any of my grandkids get this crap and die, y'all better have me arrested immediately because there will be no safe space for those forcing kids back to school when the body count starts piling up.


Who is "forcing" kids back to school?



I think everyone would agree Trump is eager to get kids back in schools and schools opening and operating in a more traditional way than remote based learning?

The President carries a lot of weight - his words deeply impact the people who support him. It seems many of his supporters trust and believe him more than the science. And when he posts and then doubles down on claims and statements that kids are virtually immune to CV-19 (something patently not true) I think it's fair to say there is much pressure for kids to go back to school. Whether someone interprets that as being 'forced' idk.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/05/899558311...en-and-covid-19

I imagine a Trump supporter might try and suggest that kids seem to be less likely to contract the virus - I think that's true and they seem to have less serious symptoms ... but we don't know what the long term repercussions of this virus are and I wonder how many kids of school age are obese or grossly obese and what are their risks with regard to CV-19?

I think with the health of our future generations we should be approaching everything with caution and base every decision 100% on safety ... and that's not even looking at the potential impact on senior teachers who may well be at elevated risks.


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Once they leave school, they spread the virus just as effectively as an adult.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG

. I live in a country that is highly supportive of Trump. Here over 40% of parents have opted for virtual learning.


So, the kids AREN'T being forced back to school?

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