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Forced is a difficult thing to say. So no, I wouldn't go as far as to say that. However there are many school districts that avid Trump supporters run that don't have a choice.

But let's also not be naive about the reality of the situation.

When you threaten to cut off federal funding to schools who really need that money, you are certainly applying heavy pressure. When you have a base of people who believe you, look to you for leadership and you are lying to them to help boost confidence in something, you are certainly holding a great influence over them as well as giving them a sense of false confidence.

So while I certainly won't say Trump is forcing anyone to go to school, I also won't absolve him of what he has done.

I will also ask you this. When has a president ever called a national health emergency yet had no national plan to address that emergency? Absolving responsibility isn't the same thing as not having had a responsibility to fill.

And in actuality he had a task force in place that gave out a plan. He in turn undermined that plan by advising politicians to ignore those guidelines. So his plan seemed to be to ignore the plan.

I've never heard of that and I'm getting rather tired if seeing people making excuses for it.

The end.

Except for the fact that governors have the say. And local school districts are offering options as well.

Yes the governors have the say. I know you had to put "the end" in there because an actual discussion of the topic wouldn't be in your best interest. I answered your question yet you ignored mine. That's what passes as a discussion to you.

That's what I get for trying to be civil to you. I'll know better next time.

I don't care if you think you are civil to me or not.

Check this out: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cma.asp

Just as you insinuated that Trump makes the call on schools, you've also insinuated that the fed. gov't. funds schools.

From the article:

https://people.howstuffworks.com/can-president-cut-school-funding.htm

From THIS article:

Once again, in your willy nilly anti trump rhetoric, you take the msm headline and think it is correct. While in fact, it is not correct.........but that sure as hell doesn't stop you from spreading lies. And I'm being civil.

Arch - which part of this and Trump's influence do you disagree with?

Heard this on the radio on my way home from work about 20 minutes ago.

They reported that a 7 year old with no other health issues died of coronavirus today.
I have not confirmed the veracity

Lord I hope that report is wrong and that no parent just lost their 7 year old.

If true that story it is tragic for that family.
It's also a harbinger of disaster with the reopening of schools if not done correctly and safely. How to do it correctly and safely I have no idea.

ATLANTA — State officials confirmed Thursday the death of a 7-year-old boy in Chatham County due to COVID-19.

The only information about the boy released by the state was in its COVID-19 deaths data. That data showed that he was a Black child with no chronic conditions.

RELATED: Teen becomes youngest death due to COVID-19 recorded in Georgia

"Yes, unfortunately it is true. It is included in the deaths listed by county on the website. That’s all the information we can provide due to HIPAA and concerns about confidentiality," Georgia Department of Public Health spokeswoman Nancy Nydam said in an email to 11Alive.

The boy becomes Georgia's youngest death and the first small child. Previously, a 17-year-old in Fulton County was the state's only death of a minor. That teenager was listed as having chronic conditions.

Deaths in young children due to the coronavirus have so far been rare, with provisional CDC data showing roughly 45 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in children under the age of 15 nationally.

Confirmation of the Chatham County boy's death comes as Georgia surpassed on Thursday 4,000 total deaths over the course of the pandemic.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/hea...1c-623851e34f95

I suppose there are some people that believe trump no matter what. Same as there are some people that believe Pelosi..........or any other politician.

I am not one of those people.

Thanks. That's not what I said at all - but thanks.

So, what DID you say? Make it concise, and clear.

Yet, you guys don't want to talk about all the children that are being killed daily by gang-related violence. What about the parents who have lost their children due to drive-by shootings? Don't they count?

Once again, I think people are using this virus for political gain. And that is very sad. People are dying and we should be trying to unite as a country. But, let's not unite and instead, use the virus as a sounding point for political gain.

Shame on all of you.

Person: man, i hope we don't lose any more kids to cancer.

Vers: excuse me? what about heart disease? do those adults who lose their lives to heart disease not matter? don't they count? Sick of people using cancer for political gain. adults are dying, but insead, people wanna talk about kids with cancer just for cool points.

freaking peasants.

That was dumb as hell.

Tell your president that. And SHAME ON YOU for scolding people who are worried about these kids and NOT MAKING a political point but saying how ridiculous it is to try to rush them back to school in the middle of this tragedy. I'm telling you bro, better not be one of my grandkids we read about next. I will not be a stable individual in that scenario. I feel so bad for that kid and his family.

We've been through this. Trump is not forcing kids back to school. It's just another lie that you guys are forcing down people's throats.

I had a beautiful student who was raped and murdered in a parking lot by 3 gang members. No one gives a damn about that. No one gives a damn about the dozens and dozens of innocent children who are killed by stray bullets from these filthy gang-bangers.

Pack sand, w/your fake outrage!

LOL, Pit even admitted as much. Trump is NOT forcing kids back to school. As I posted earlier, he can't, first of all, and secondly, he can't stop the 8% funding of schools the fed. gov't. does. He can't.

Governors are in control of their states, but idiots don't want to realize that. And further, MOST schools are offering on line education if that's what the parents want. And pit even admitted that.

But, outrage at trump trumps the day, week, month, last 4 years. Lies, falsehoods, and just made up stuff. Pathetic.

If people would go after trump for real things, and not made up b.crap, maybe I'd listen. As it is, they blame trump for things they support.

TRUMP is absolutely forcing kids back to school with political pressure to get the damn economy going. How much are your kids worth? Are they worth saving a few billionaires and corporations from bankruptcy? I think not. Are their lives worth sacrificing for Trump to get re-elected? I think not.

I know you love your kids and they are grown, but imagine them as primary school age, would you send them to school during this?

You don't comprehend anything other than hate trump. I feel pity for you.

I don't want your damn pity for that, I'm happy to HATE his ass. He is a horrible human and a disgusting politician. DEPLORABLE is the perfect description. And I know I'm on the right side of history, so pity yourself Arch, you're the one that needs help.

And BTW, it's called focus. I'm focused on helping to get rid of him. Been a rough 3 years but it finally seems to be catching on... *see recent polling.

You, and others, have been jacking your jaw for 4 years. Dude, you look the fool. You act the fool.

Hardly. I might look like that from inside that trumpian mindset, but I'm a nazi nose punching patriotic American cut from the same cloth as the warriors who defeated Hitler in a different set of circumstances. I would and will go to war against fascism in America, all day, every day.

You would help usher it in... that says all I need to know about you and your opinions.

But you know what I don't get? You and I are very much alike in our love for family and thinking we should fight for what is ours or what is good for the country... Yet this one politician has divides us to the point I would rather hate you than accept your politics under him... What does that say about both of us. If y'all had elected a real man, a real president, we would never have had an issue being on opposite sides of the aisle.

You, over the last 4 years, have become a joke.

Your opinion again... and it still means nothing.

Read my edit above. Posted while you were posting.

Why should we talk about kids being killed by gang violence in this thread? This thread is for a discussion about kids returning to school during an active pandemic and that is what we are talking about. Want to talk about gang violence or kids being killed by gangs? Fine, start that thread and we will have that discussion.

Personally I try to stay true to the tread title as much as possible. I know I am not 100% because I like to open up the threads that I am going to read in multiple tabs. The problem with that is that I often forget which thread that I am in - doh!

This is a little scary


https://www.yahoo.com/news/children-developed-rare-brain-damage-192200123.html

Some children have developed rare brain damage from the coronavirus, according to a small study

glandsverk@businessinsider.com (GabLandsverk)
,INSIDER•August 5, 2020


A study of children with severe cases of COVID-19 found that some developed new neurological symptoms like muscle weakness, slowed reflexes and evidence of brain damage after infection.

Two of the patients made a full recovery, but two remained in wheelchairs due to muscle weakness.

Previous research has suggested coronavirus may cause brain damage in adults, even those with mild cases. More research is needed to understand how virus might affect a child's developing brain.

Neurological issues and brain damage may be among the symptoms of children with severe cases of the novel coronavirus, according to a case study published July 1 in JAMA Neurology.

Researchers from Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children in London looked at 27 children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome, a severe and potentially fatal condition that appears to be linked to COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

They found that 4 of the children also showed neurological symptoms. The patients, aged between 8 and 15 years old, experienced headaches, confusion and disorientation, and muscle weakness, according to the report, none of which were present before the coronavirus infection. Testing showed the patients had slowed activity in nerves and muscle fibers.

After receiving medications to treat inflammation, two of the patients made a full recovery and were discharged from the hospital. The other two patients improved somewhat, but continued to show symptoms, including muscle weakness severe enough that they needed a wheelchair.

Previous evidence has found that adults can also experience brain damage and neurological symptoms from COVID-19, including delirium and hallucinations, Business Insider previously reported.

These symptoms can affect patients after they've left the hospital for respiratory symptoms, and may even occur in patients with otherwise mild cases of the virus. Studies suggest patients can also have neurological symptoms from blot clotting related to COVID-19, including strokes.

It's not clear exactly how COVID-19 may affect the brain, particularly in children, so more research is needed. Previous research on viruses suggests that the immune system may play a role as coronavirus may damage the blood-brain barrier and the body's immune response could damage the nervous system.

j/c...

Another foul-mouthed socialist Democrat running for office.

A progressive, democratic voice for Texas’ 10th Congressional District!

Your colorful language is not professional, doctor!

You voted for a guy who literally claimed he liked grabbing women by their vaginas.

You have no room to talk.

Youre a guy who used derogatory slurs to describe women. "Karens"

Youre not much better.

JMO....schools aren't ready to open.


You put children, teachers, and administrators at risk. I guess I would be remiss to not mention kitchen and janitorial staff as well.


Somebody has to cook and serve the meals and clean up and fix the place.


Oh....the bus drivers. Somebody picks many of them up every morning and drops them off near the house in the afternoon.

Gang violence and influence are a huge detriment to our inner city schools.

Btw---I did start a thread about it. The problem is that the very same guys who are falsely blaming Trump for re-opening the schools did their best to hijack the thread from the get-go w/their usual personal attacks.

Jester, I think you are a good guy. However, you seem to turn a blind eye to all the insults and attacks that dominate this forum because those posters share your political beliefs and you instead focus on those who question those beliefs.

That's your right. Then again, it's my right to express my own opinions.

I've tried to bring some rationality to this thread by talking about how I don't think schools should re-open and that a ton of parents do want them open. I have also brought up that parents have options. No one is "forcing" students to return to school. Folks don't want to have the rational discussion, they just want to shout out that Trump doesn't care about our children and is forcing them back to school.

People don't want to hear about gang violence. That is mostly black on black. Black lives only matter when one is killed by some white person.

Truth

That’s trash. Straight up garbage.

Y’all would flip out on that board if I ever claimed white lives only matter when Arabs or illegals take their lives.

Peen, you can expect hostility from me from here on out in my post. No point in being polite.

And by the way, this is a thread about schools as it relates to the virus, and yet we got two posters trying to make it about gang violence?

This is why I ruthlessly mock posters on here. They make it too easy.

Fair enough. I wasn't trying to make it anything. I was just commenting on a post. So you do what you need to do.


I'll sleep as I usually do....not all that well, but it is what it is.