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FOX Opinion is biased but their NEWS is legit.

How do you think we find out about things like who works for Google, the violence of the left, and more.

You won't hear that stuff on the Mainstream Media.

j/c:

Not interested in arguing, but calling this "fascism" is yet another example of how the new Dems resort to labeling. It's not even close to fascism.

Foxnews is mainstream.

Your act is running thin. Should be fun to see you when Biden wins.

Well this is a subject that you are becoming an expert on...

Umm, that would be capitalism. I know you have been confused by agent orange, but seriously that would be capitalism.

They have no news at all! They are an entertainment channel for suckers.

Blocking votes by mail or messing with the post office to suppress voting is absolutely a fascist move. I thought you were a teacher? You know better, or did you skip history? Is your degree in sports and fitness?

Conveniently they forget to mention the president is more than an arms-length away from how we vote, and the Postal Service is not under the thumb of his control. Senate Democrats joined Republicans to unanimously install postal leadership — of which, one is an Obama appointee.

Vers, welcome back
I'd like to encourage you to check out the Trump - it's opposite day edition thread that I started. You inspired it and I would love to hear your feedback, either in that thread or via PM as it has kinda run it's course

Makes me wonder are these self loathing whites are going to readily and happy to give their houses to a 17 year old blm member if the fascist commie libs take over the country?

Not sure what you want me to say in that thread because I don't think it applies to me.

I don't like Trump. I think he is a jerk.

I'm just voting for him because I think he is the lesser of two evils. The Dems abandoned the working man and have embraced the radical BLM political organization. They don't care about my family and those like mine. Thus, why should I care about them.

I will continue to support blacks and other minorities who want to work for a living and contribute to society. I will never support free-loaders and exploiters who think that hard-working folks owe them something.

But again...........I don't like Trump, so I don't know what you want me to say on that thread???

The new head honcho is a trump lap dog who immediately after being installed started tearing down the system under Trump's orders... AND stop trying to pretend that is not exactly what is going on! Even you are not that dense.

I really want your dealers number! No not kidding, really.

Glad you are onboard with Trump cutting social security and medicare/medicaid funding. He has openly said he wants to do away with the tax... How do you think he will do that without 'hurting' your family? How do you think he will do that without hurting the 'freeloaders' who cash the checks? Yes, you are a freeloader to him and his oligarch buddies. You are just one of the dumb ones willing to vote against your own interest now. Let that sink in.

And I struggle to believe that the BLM riots caused you to throw away a lifetime of being liberal...

I'm not interested in arguing w/you. My thoughts are my own. I could care less if you approve or not.

Cool. And thanks.

Not looking for you to say anything in particular. You have been pushing to try to bring the 2 sides closer together. I thought that thread might be a start. Just interested in your thoughts about peoples replies.

I thought the thread might reach out to you. Guess it doesn't. No biggie

I do want people to come together, but that clearly is not happening on this board. Look at the Come Together thread. People would rather hate than unite. It is what it is.

Not during the pandemic. Services are up. And the holidays are coming up.

You can stop lying like your idol in the WH does everyday.

Our savior... Let’s come together and dump trump first...then let’s talk about the other stuff later ok?

Why? It’s obvious by reading Riley’s posts that bath salts rot your brain.

j/c...

Good news. Now if he reinstalls all of the sorting machines that have been removed that would be great. They only sort mail with bar codes like ballots have. Since they sort 36,000 pieces of mail an hour it doesn't take removing many of those to gum up the election results.

Here's the full letter.

That seems in direct conflict with what was said by the postal service just days ago. I guess people will have to choose which message they believe and see what the evidence dictates when it unfolds.

Postal Service Warns Mail-In Ballots In 46 States May Not Be Delivered In Time

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...n/#752dd7a117e6

Yep. Don't believe him until you see it.

I think the postal service is warning states that pushed back to the mail in date. Thereby narrowing the window the post office has to deliver it. It's not that they can';t handle it, it's just that states are giving them less time to do so.

It just seems rather odd that you eliminate sorting machines that can sort 36,000 pieces of mail an hour in the preceding months leading up to an election and then warn people you may not be able to process the ballots in time.

I mean any way you slice it, a lot more ballots could be processed if those machines were still in place.

Internal USPS planning documents obtained by CNN indicate nearly 95% of the mail sorting machines that had been set for removal during the last few months were already scheduled to be taken out of service by now.

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" that the USPS would not remove any more mail sorting machines until after the election.

Documents from June, obtained by CNN, show the USPS planned to remove 502 DBCS (Delivery Barcode Sorter) machines, or 13.2% of its total inventory by September 30. These machines make up the bulk of the USPS mail sort operation. They sort envelope mail, which would include ballots en route to voters. However, nearly 95%, or 475, of those were scheduled to be removed by the end of July according to documents.


Fascism Averted

I think you may be misunderstanding what I was saying I think is happening.

States are changing the mail-in date for ballots, to later dates, and I'm not sure why? But anyway, that means that the windows between when they can be mail out, and when the election office expects then is narrower.

The states are the ones making it harder on the USPS. Those machines were already scheduled for removal, and most likely many had been taken out of service weeks if not months ago ans they prepared to pull them out.

I don't really think this is some for of collusion to stifle the election by the USPS. I think they are just getting stuck in the middle of their planned schedule and the current political battles.

That's what I was speaking about in terms of collecting new evidence. Once you know there's a very real possibility of a huge increase of mail in ballots, the conditions have changed. The needs have changed and facts have shifted.

The way we conduct ourselves every day since this virus hit our shores has changed. When conditions dictate, the schedule changes. That's why these machines should be put back in place until after the election. And depending on the volume of mail in ballots they receive, they may need to be left in place moving forward.

The answer thus far has been, "Uh oh, we may not be able to process all of your ballots in 46 states now". That shouldn't be an acceptable answer for anyone other than the one who is predicting a mess will happen.

It's not but when you are looking for fascism under every rock, then you will find a lot of fascism.. even where it doesn't exist.

I'm not saying it is some conspiracy theory. I'm just looking at the fact if you have less of those machines, you can process less ballots. The virus has been around for months now. The expansion of mail in voting has been going on for months now.

So we can say removing the sorters was planed months ago which may very well be true. But as I said in my above post, if you know you'll be getting a surge in ballots in a few months from now, the answer isn't to keep doing what you're doing and then less than three months before the election tell 46 states, "Uh oh!"

Or you can use that as a built in excuse why not changing directions with a plan you know may very well negatively impact the election is just fine.

Pick your poison.

The USPS says it will not have an impact. The USPS says that even if every American were to mail in a ballot around voting time it would still be significantly less mail traffic in a short period of time than they handle every Christmas.

No fascism to see here.

They can't handle the truth.

But, but, but..........that doesn't fit the narrative we've been blast fed for weeks.

J/C

Would like to see if this removal was scheduled before or after the new head of the USPS took over and if this is something that happens yearly.

More information is needed to show evidence.

I would like to know the number of people that actually USE the blue boxes to send mail. And then I'd like to know why.

So then why did the post office send this out?

Postal Service Warns Mail-In Ballots In 46 States May Not Be Delivered In Time

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...n/#548429d117e6

Just because they said something completely different yesterday doesn't mean you can ignore what they said a few short days ago. So all of these smart ass comments about "it doesn't fit their narrative" doesn't change the fact that the postal service claimed a few days ago they wouldn't be able to handle the ballots and just yesterday claimed they could.

One of those two things are a lie.