Sadly, I find myself drawn to hopeless cases and allegedly impossible challenges. I'll try to resist yours again for awhile.
As long as you think you are qualified to judge other people and somehow think your approach is so far superior to other people, it will be a continual self inflicted wound of your own making.
Not my monkey. Not my circus.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
As long as you think you are qualified to judge other people and somehow think your approach is so far superior to other people, it will be a continual self inflicted wound of your own making.
Prefaced by this, and I quote:
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Quoted for truth. Focused in the wrong direction, but true.
Exactly. You pointed it in the wrong direction. See, I don't take you or anyone else seriously on here. You even more than most others. So I'm not bothered by this issue.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
As of 9/2/20... A new Hill-HarrisX poll showed 24% of Black voters approve of the job Trump is doing as president, up from the 15% approval rating he received in a survey conducted Aug. 8–11
Sept 8, 2020... Rassmussen had him at a 42% approval rating among black voters...
Now, polls are polls and that is a big discrepancy between 24% and 42%. But there are a couple things you may wish to consider with this info: not all aspects of those polls were favorable toward Trump, so they don't appear to be purely partisan FoxNews polls. Second, keep in mind Trump only got something like 6% of black voters in 2016. And from some of the digging I did, it doesn't appear that Biden is enjoying any more support from black voters at this time than Hillary did in '16. People hardly wanted anything to do with Harris in the Primaries so it's hard to say just how much more she can squeeze out.
Its nothing I would encourage anyone to take to the bank and try to deposit but if you look out across the social media landscape, there's plenty to give credence to some of those numbers.
But as you say, how much of them will show up at the polls? At this stage given the current climate, I'd think that if you are black and have publicly supported Trump, you're probably going to go the whole 9 yards. Even if you take the pre-RNC 15%... that's not something to be ignored.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
You got it wrong again. Very few take you seriously. You're like a predictable toy to play when I see fit. You also run willy nilly to every thread to tell people how awesome you are.
You got it wrong again. Very few take you seriously. You're like a predictable toy to play when I see fit. You also run willy nilly to every thread to tell people how awesome you are.
I think you hit "Reply" to the wrong post ... I'm thinking your description matches someone else.
Last edited by mgh888; 10/05/2005:04 PM.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Now, polls are polls and that is a big discrepancy between 24% and 42%. But there are a couple things you may wish to consider with this info: not all aspects of those polls were favorable toward Trump, so they don't appear to be purely partisan FoxNews polls. Second, keep in mind Trump only got something like 6% of black voters in 2016. And from some of the digging I did, it doesn't appear that Biden is enjoying any more support from black voters at this time than Hillary did in '16. People hardly wanted anything to do with Harris in the Primaries so it's hard to say just how much more she can squeeze out.
this paragraph pretty much invalidated your sources, as i'm sure you're aware. It must also be further emphasize that you're picking and choosing now when to believe the polls, after a 4 year term of calling them fake news.
so if he got only 6% in 2016, when you account for everything thats happened, especially this year, you honestly expect trump to somehow clear that 6%?
that is a tough tough sell there, DD.
especially since if we're gonna use that standard, then lets say trump somehow increases the black support to 11%, is 6% of black voter increase the same as 6% drop of independent support? or 6% drop in support from whites?
if trump increases support from blacks from 6% to 11%, that won't make up the drop in support he will most certainly lose from white voters.
the current polls shows a drop in whites, women, independents, etc.
again, thats using YOUR standard.
from what i'm seeing right now, he'd be lucky if he gets Romney numbers in november. and that doesn't account for all the drops in other demographics that are stronger than the black vote.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
If these numbers are even close to accurate, 1600 had better get a memo out to all those GOP-run states that are actively trying to suppress the vote. Trump needs 'his African Americans', you know-
- Was I wrong that Trump is terrible? - Was I wrong that this was just a heist? - Was I wrong that he would be impeached? - Was I wrong that he worked with Russia to win in 2016? - Was I wrong that he acts like a damn traitor when it comes to Putin? Think Helsinki.. - Was I wrong that we would need socialism to fix this mess?
Tell me what I was so wrong on and let's keep it fact based. I know you are incapable of that but if you don't at least try, then shut up.
EDIT: I even liked your post for it's predictability. You are a broken record with insufficient thinking capacity to see truth through your bias.
Last edited by OldColdDawg; 10/05/2006:20 PM.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Your predictions have not been correct, at all. And you've been wrong for 4 years.
These questions?
- Was I wrong that Trump is terrible? - Was I wrong that this was just a heist? - Was I wrong that he would be impeached? - Was I wrong that he worked with Russia to win in 2016? - Was I wrong that he acts like a damn traitor when it comes to Putin? Think Helsinki.. - Was I wrong that we would need socialism to fix this mess?
You live in an alternate reality arch. Maybe we should let the board decide if I was right or wrong. I'd love to see the spin from Trumpians and the left could use a good laugh.
Everyone, please be the judge and reply with your stance. I can't fathom how anyone could think I was wrong on any of these.
Last edited by OldColdDawg; 10/05/2009:15 PM.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Now, polls are polls and that is a big discrepancy between 24% and 42%. But there are a couple things you may wish to consider with this info: not all aspects of those polls were favorable toward Trump, so they don't appear to be purely partisan FoxNews polls. Second, keep in mind Trump only got something like 6% of black voters in 2016. And from some of the digging I did, it doesn't appear that Biden is enjoying any more support from black voters at this time than Hillary did in '16. People hardly wanted anything to do with Harris in the Primaries so it's hard to say just how much more she can squeeze out.
this paragraph pretty much invalidated your sources, as i'm sure you're aware. It must also be further emphasize that you're picking and choosing now when to believe the polls, after a 4 year term of calling them fake news.
so if he got only 6% in 2016, when you account for everything thats happened, especially this year, you honestly expect trump to somehow clear that 6%?
that is a tough tough sell there, DD.
especially since if we're gonna use that standard, then lets say trump somehow increases the black support to 11%, is 6% of black voter increase the same as 6% drop of independent support? or 6% drop in support from whites?
if trump increases support from blacks from 6% to 11%, that won't make up the drop in support he will most certainly lose from white voters.
the current polls shows a drop in whites, women, independents, etc.
again, thats using YOUR standard.
from what i'm seeing right now, he'd be lucky if he gets Romney numbers in november. and that doesn't account for all the drops in other demographics that are stronger than the black vote.
I think you're giving more weight to my commentary than even I am lol
I even said it wasn't something I'd tell people to take to the bank. 42% just sounds ridiculous, 24% probably requires some amount of illicit drugs to believe, but 15%? I don't think that's far fetched in light of the historically low unemployment rates pre-Covid.
Again, while I think 15% is in the realm of possibility, I'm still not telling anyone to take that to the bank. My whole point is that there has been an upward trend of support.
And all your questions are valid: whatever the actual number is, will it show up as votes? Would any increase he gains be able to off set losses elsewhere? At this stage I think the only thing polls are good for is showing possible trends. Its no secret that a lot of Trump supporters won't take part in polls and the 2016 election showed just how wrong polls can be.
Past that I've got some anecdotal stuff that I've been seeing which I can touch on if you care to hear it, but I'm not going to try to present it as a foundational part of the point because it is anecdotal.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
You got it wrong again. Very few take you seriously. You're like a predictable toy to play when I see fit. You also run willy nilly to every thread to tell people how awesome you are.
I've never told anyone "how awesome I am". I let them figure that out all on their own.
You can't even do your own homework Mr. Butifmasksdon'twork.
I don't care who takes me seriously. Most won't even confront anything when it's proven Trump does something wrong. They just bury their heads in the sand and pretend it never happened.
Tell his supporters to vote twice? Ignore.....
Tell them to crowd the polls on election day to sow confusion? Ignore.....
I could go on but you get it. Somebody needs to help you become aware. Because I don't know how you can possibly miss it, but most of the things like that you didn't even know happened unless you see it on here.
You're welcome.
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Being smart and sensible about a virus that's killed over 211,000 people and counting makes you look weak.
Never mind about looking smart. That means nothing anymore. Never mind about looking responsible. That Republican party has left the building like Elvis did.
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Unless it is floor to ceiling, and totally encases each candidate individually, as well as the moderator, and any person in attendance (all individually) and ALSO involves personal air ventilation heat/ac.........what would it do?
Aren't you simply amazed that people, after over 211,000 American deaths still don't understand that a shield to stop droplets from continuing through the air would help? That if they hit the shield, the moisture would stick to the shield and not continue through the air?
I find that utterly amazing. They just don't care enough to find out or they think rather than finding out on their own someone else should explain it to them.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Like many leftist organizations, the Southern Poverty Law Center, or SPLC, started out with good intentions. It was founded in 1971 by Morris Dees and Joseph Levin and is headquartered in Montgomery, Alabama. The Southern Poverty Law Center rightly condemned, as did conservatives such as the great William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan, the American Nazi Party and the Democrat-affiliated Ku Klux Klan. A favorite SPLC tactic was suing Klan affiliated organizations for their crimes and then distributing the money to the victims. This strategy has been effective in financially hurting many Klan related organizations. SPLC, though always leftist in nature, bravely stood strong through attacks on its headquarters and threats against its leaders by Klansman. That is to be commended.
Sadly, the Southern Poverty Law Center has more than lost its way. The going astray from the original mission can be traced back to 1986, when most of the organization resigned, except founder Morris Dees, when Dees turned the focus of the group to strictly monitoring hate groups.
The list of hate groups has kept getting longer and longer while our nation has become more tolerant of those who are different. In March 2013, the publication Foreign Policy ran an expose on the methodology of SPLC’s listing of hate groups, noting that SPLC counted many groups several times.
The overall impression from SPLC’s list is designed to make Americans believe that America is a nation filled with racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and every other form of hatred that the conservative cause specifically disavows.
SPLC’s senior leadership is shameful. It uses its past legacy of fighting against racism to add legitimacy to their evolving agenda of hatred towards the large number of Americans who hold conservative and religious values.
In 2010, SPLC added the conservative Family Research Council to its list of hate groups.
In early 2015, SPLC added Dr. Ben Carson to its list of hate groups.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an atheist, feminist, and former Muslim who speaks out against female genital mutilation, was added to the SPLC hate list in recent years. Ali has many death threats on her life by Islamic radicals but SPLC labels her, and not those who have made the threats, on the hate watch list.
The most recent SPLC controversy involves labeling the Alliance Defending Freedom, or ADF. Attorney General Jeff Sessions made a speech to ADF last week and was immediately vilified by the left wing media such as ABC for associating with an alleged hate group. How ridiculous.
Alliance Defending Freedom was founded to "advocate for the rights of people to peacefully and freely speak, live and work according to their faith and conscience without threat of government punishment."
ADF has won seven Supreme Court cases in the last seven years including the recent Trinity Lutheran v. Comer religious liberty case. ADF has also won over 400 victories regarding academic freedom in the university.
ADF consistently brings cases to the United States Supreme Court and wins. Regarding LGBTQ issues, ADF argues for the rights of Christians and others to practice their deeply held belief system. Even President Obama said that there are people of good faith on both sides of this issue as, indeed marriage between a man and woman has been enshrined for many thousands of years, but SPLC now has to be more progressive than even President Obama. Former Attorney General Ed Meese wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal, “One doesn’t have to agree with ADF’s views to see the problem of treating this law firm as the equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan.”
SPLC’s senior leaders simply do not believe the organization can survive merely by targeting the wickedness of the KKK and neo-Nazi organizations. Instead the leadership believes it must label conservatives and Christians as hate groups. SPLC leaders simply cannot accept that the overwhelming majority of Americans reject racism, sexism, and hatred of other people. SPLC Leadership cannot accept that America is an even more loving nation than when SPLC was founded. In 2014 the FBI, under President Obama no less, said they would no longer use the SPLC criteria of hate groups as its own. There is a reason for that. Recommended Cleveland Officials Traced COVID Cases Back to the Debate... Before Trump Was On-site Beth Baumann
The Southern Poverty Law Center has become a leftist mouthpiece and, guided by its progressive evolution, a hate group. The SPLC evolution is not surprising. As clear as the laws of physics, where leftism is found, hatred, bigotry, and intolerance will soon follow. They have no tolerance for those who argue for religious freedom to Christians and even Muslims who are opposed to female genital mutilation.
Make no mistake, SPLC will continue labeling more and more conservative and Christian groups as hate groups. However, the real victim is not just conservative organizations. It is the those who need the services of a legal group to defend them because of real hatred. Because SPLC has cried wolf one too many times and it has diminished the definition of what a hate group is. They are too far gone now to turn back and will continue their slide into illegitimacy. They could, however, regain their legitimacy by listing a new group as a hate group. They could start by listing the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The Fascist America That Kamala Promises By Jack Cashill
I do not use the term “fascist” lightly, but when even the liberal Los Angeles Times opens an article with a paragraph like the one that follows, I think fascist is apt:
“California Atty. Gen. Kamala Harris is drawing fire from supporters of an anti-abortion activist whose undercover videos and identity cards were seized by the state Department of Justice this week after Harris’ political campaign sought to drum up support for Planned Parenthood.”
The activist is David Daleiden, 27 at the time of the April 2016 raid on his Huntington Beach apartment. In 2016, Harris was running for California’s open U.S. Senate seat. At the time of the raid, Harris’s campaign website was asking supporters “to take a stand and join Kamala in defending Planned Parenthood.”
In the course of Planned Parenthood’s history, no one had presented a greater threat to the organization’s federal funding than the young journalist whose apartment Harris’s agents had just raided.
In the way of background, Daleiden and his partner Sandra Merritt had gone undercover for two years posing as the brokers in the fetal tissue market.
In July 2015 Daleiden started dropping the undercover videos the pair had shot at Planned Parenthood clinics in several states, including California.
The combination of callow words and cruel images, repeated in one video after another, rocked Washington. The timing was good. The 2016 presidential campaigns were revving up, and many Republicans spoke out about what they saw.
“The out-of-sight, out-of-mind mantra that propelled the pro-choice movement for decades is forever gone,” Kellyanne Conway, then a Republican pollster, told the New York Times. Reeling from the blow, even the Times had to wonder whether “the new offensive will succeed in crippling Planned Parenthood.”
Obama, the first president to speak at Planned Parenthood’s national convention, kept his distance from the hubbub. An indifferent media got no closer to the president than his press secretary, Josh Earnest.
On July 30, 2015, a young reporter asked Earnest if Obama had seen the video that was released on that day. The video in question begins with interview footage of harried Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards insisting, “It’s not a fee. It’s not a fee. It’s just the cost of trans- mitting this material.” The undercover footage that follows undercuts everything Richards said.
A doctor at a Planned Parenthood megaclinic in Colorado is seen explaining the clinic’s traffic in body parts. Aware that it is illegal to transfer “human fetal tissue” for “valuable consideration,” the doctor plays semantic games with the would-be purchasers.
“We don’t want to get called on, you know, selling fetal parts across states,” she jokes, unaware she is being recorded. This interview is followed by an on-site review of actual body parts with the doctor and a clinician.
What is impressive is how well Daleiden and Merritt play their roles as buyers. What is unnerving is how casually the doctor and clinician pick through trays of baby parts -- a heart, a brain, a lung -- while talking about the commercial viability of the “fetal cadaver.”
Running for president at the time, Hillary Clinton could not afford to be so dismissive. Although her first instinct was to attack the video producers, Clinton herself began to waver as each new video dropped.
“I have seen pictures from [the videos] and obviously find them dis- turbing,” Clinton told the New Hampshire Union Leader late that July. No one knew better than Clinton, however, what overwhelming force Planned Parenthood and its allies in the Democratic-media complex could bring to bear against a pair of citizen journalists.
For immediate assistance, Planned Parenthood turned to the well-connected fixers at -- where else? -- Fusion GPS. The beleaguered organization contracted with Fusion to review the unedited footage Daleiden had posted online.
Armed with a ten-page report from Fusion, Richards went on the offensive. Convincing people they did not see what they saw would not be easy, but the networks made the task possible by refusing to show the actual videos.
As to the newspapers and online journals, they did their bit by leaving the assessment of the videos to Fusion GPS. Faced with real journalists doing real work, the Obama courtiers reflexively turned stenographer. They welcomed this “forensic study” as heartily as they would Fusion GPS’s notorious “Steele dossier” a year later.
To complete the rout, the ambitious Harris had her agents seize Daleiden’s multiple computers and hard drives as well as the materials he had gathered from Planned Parenthood conferences.
Alexandra Snyder, the director of the Life Legal Defense Foundation, told the Los Angeles Times that Harris’s “loyalty to Planned Parenthood” required “her to turn a blind eye to the organization’s criminal activities.” Harris did more than turn a blind eye. “Instead,” said Snyder, “she has launched an inquisition into David Daleiden.”
In 2017, Harris’s successor as attorney general, Xavier Becerra, filed 15 felony charges against Daleiden and Merritt and has tied them up in court ever since.
In May 2020, Daleiden filed suit against Becerra and Harris, claiming Harris violated his civil rights by conspiring with Planned Parenthood to silence him.
In Kamala’s America, killing and dismembering unborn babies and marketing their body parts is perfectly acceptable. Reporting on the practice is criminal. If that is not fascistic, I am not sure I know what is.
Not sure why there is even a question about this. Geez.. at a time when the president admitted to a reporter he lied about Covid. A time when we find out that he paid $750.00 in Federal Tax two years in a row. In a time when he fights to keep his taxes private when every other president (as well as Candidate for President) have released tax return for at least 10 years prior. (what's he hiding)
all this stuff the Trump supporters are throwing out there is meant to distract..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
in just 2 minutes, Pence proved that his only purpose is to serve as a human meat shield for Trump.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
this gotta be a tough job under trump. dude is 61 years old looking 81 right now.
interesting he dodged the age question and went back to covid. he didn't make a good case at all.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
he really comes off as one of those crazy evangelicals on TV
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
