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That was my first choice, but I felt I was getting a little more "obscure" with Maiava, lol

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/qb-index-week-1...impression=true

QB Index, Week 14: Baker Mayfield vaults into the top 15
by Ali Bhanpuri, Tom Blair, Gennaro Filice & Dan Parr

Ive said it over and over...JETS cut him and he ends up a Patriot with 2 rings.

I don't see BB coaching another 15 years and it would take at least that long for Darnold to win two rings. Unless he helps the Pats get a 1st overall QB.

The Jets would be fools to trade him to the Pats.

He will get a chance I just hope it's not the Steelers.

I can see Darnold to the Bears for some reason

No, it will be the NFC team giving up the most...unless Pitt were to give 4 1st rounders or something insane. There is nothing the Patriots could offer to make that deal happen.

Wentz to the Pats or Steelers sounds about right, though.

who cares - glad we chose Baker.

#Browns  WR Jarvis Landry said Baker Mayfield has been one of the hardest workers since he got here

We need to keep Baker and try to further develop him. It took us long enough just to get a decent QB like him. For some teams, including us, it seems like it takes forever to get a good QB. You could make a case the Jets haven't had a really good QB since Joe Namath and the Bears since Sid Luckman. Baker is starting to show promise and I hope he keeps it up.

There is no reason to move on from Baker at this point. He has progressed to the point where you have to keep him. With that said, when there were times people, including me, were unsure about him I believe the thought was that we would replace him with a veteran like Matthew Stafford or Matt Ryan. Our team is ready to win now and cannot afford to go through another rookie QB process right now.

So weird getting to the end and hearing the crowd roar on big plays.

Nice documentary. Sort of highlights even more why I don't get the Baker hate - dude worked hard and earned to get everything he every had. I guess the salt in the wound of the OSU game is a bigger factor than I can fathom.

He's still improving - I don't get these posts where the implication is we are settling for some, possibly average, QB. If everything went to hell the last 4 weeks - maybe? But that's not at all where we are at.

I'd seen, heard, and read brief mentions about his road to college ball, but I didn't really know or understand it all. Seeing it all put together here, I have no doubt that as long as he keeps that chip on his shoulder, he can and will out-work anyone and he WILL become one of the greats.

That said, he got lax & lazy last year... and that is what awaits if he rests on his laurels.

There is almost no chance at all of us moving on from Baker. Period.


The *ONLY* way we skip picking up his 5th Year option is if we just outright renegotiate and extend him in order to Pay the Man (not even sure we can do that, yet.. the CBA can be weird).

Anybody who will look back and embrace how awful some of the QBs have been MUST admit we are worlds ahead with BM and have seen it on the field in spite of a parade of weak coaches and system issues.

Pay the man. BM can draw criticism, agreed. He also provides more to build on than we have had, and he seems to be earning his keep. He also has some people around him winning most games, and KS hasn't had an ideal year to start, and less than a season with his team. Gotta cross the street and walk a fair piece cherrypicking problems to borrow trouble. I am delighted to be playing for something late in the year.

Agree we will keep him.... 100%. What I question is the way that some evaluate that decision as if we are somehow compromising and getting a below average QB that might be average one day.

As for the work ethic - it's easy to blame Freddie, and he's due a slice of it ... who think Stefanski would have enabled the same lackluster effort? ... but Baker getting married, Baker coming to the NFL and lighting it up ... Baker owns plenty of it too. IN the end - probably a little like when Chris Carter got cut - it may be the best thing that happened for his pro career.

Really good stuff. Thx for your insights. As a Saints fan, I would love for the Saints to pickup Darnold in the offseason and see what Coach Sean Payton could do with him. Until recently, Payton has sucked on the defensive side of the ball, but his ability to spot and develop QBs is nearly undeniable. I'd like to see the kid get a chance in a real offense.

Baker owns all of it; we're all responsible for our own actions. That isn't to be overly harsh, just being realistic; and, I agree, and I think we're seeing that the wakeup call was heard loud & clear.

This season was just as a lot of people expected early on... there have been some real ups & downs. There's probably been more ups than I expected, actually, as I expected a much more rough idling offense... but, I think we're now starting to see these guys click and get in a rhythm. Of course, that really only holds true if it continues this coming Monday. If they look the way they did in the opener, you can throw out any and all impressions of growth.

That's more than fair. Freddie was a large negative influence but Baker is responsible for Baker.

My favorite line is when Baker says he blocks better than David.

I literally LOL'd at that one

The most unfortunate thing about that is that it means that not just us on this site give him crap about how bad he is at blocking - his own teammates roast him over it.

I now have zero doubt that this is why he is the 3rd string TE. The infamous "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" idiom applies.

He's not fast enough to be a WR is he?

No, but WR's need to block, too... and, his hands are still questionable at times.

He's simply an incomplete player.

Another in a long line of our "not worth a 1st round pick" guys.

Njoku didn't appreciate that one.

"The guy's an idiot" - favorite line - and so true.

It didn't really sound like he was joking, either.

The look on his face said he wasn't.

Yet he lobbied for him to be coach. So I think some of it was in jest.

I think all of it was in jest; it was just a solid deadpan delivery which fits Baker's sense of humor completely. Just watch his pressers lately with the pop culture references.