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The NFL Playoffs are kind of like a Nascar Race,
all you can do is have great tires and try to get in good position for the final laps.


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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At this rate, a win tomorrow is nearly a nail in our playoff coffin. A loss still leaves us in good shape, but not as good as we are right nwo


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
At this rate, a win tomorrow is nearly a nail in our playoff coffin. A loss still leaves us in good shape, but not as good as we are right nwo


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At this rate, a win tomorrow is nearly a nail in our playoff coffin. A loss still leaves us in good shape, but not as good as we are right nwo


Wut.
if we win tomorrow we will be in ... if we lose our percentage drops a bit, but it’s not drastic


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
At this rate, a win tomorrow is nearly a nail in our playoff coffin. A loss still leaves us in good shape, but not as good as we are right nwo


A nail in one's coffin generally means that one is one step closer to the grave. I think you meant something else?


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Maybe a stake through the heart of the vampire of missing the playoffs 19 years.

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Stillers vs Chiefs for consideration.

if the overall record is the same, we'd have 2 teams from different divisions where the tie break sequence goes.

1. Head to head if applicable .(Not)
2. Best Conference record, both AFC conf. vs. the AFC

If those end up equal the next is W-L-T in common games minimum 4.

Steelers, and Chiefs Common games minimum 4
+ for win, - for loss, and TBD for not played yet.

Texans, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +
Broncos, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +, 2nd +

Ravens, Steelers +, 2nd +, ... Chiefs +

Bills, Steelers (TBD in the 4th quarter)
Chiefs, +

Tally, Chiefs 5-0, Steelers, 4-0 (tbd 1)


4, strength of victory
5, strength of schedule
6, combined ranking among conf teams in points scored, and points allowed.


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Stillers vs Chiefs for consideration.

if the overall record is the same, we'd have 2 teams from different divisions where the tie break sequence goes.

1. Head to head if applicable .(Not)
2. Best Conference record, both AFC conf. vs. the AFC

If those end up equal the next is W-L-T in common games minimum 4.

Steelers, and Chiefs Common games minimum 4
+ for win, - for loss, and TBD for not played yet.

Texans, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +
Broncos, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +, 2nd +

Ravens, Steelers +, 2nd +, ... Chiefs +

Bills, Steelers (TBD in the 4th quarter)
Chiefs, +

Tally, Chiefs 5-0, Steelers, 4-0 (tbd 1)


4, strength of victory
5, strength of schedule
6, combined ranking among conf teams in points scored, and points allowed.



Pitt will finish 2nd and the Browns will win the division.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
if we win tomorrow we will be in ... if we lose our percentage drops a bit, but it’s not drastic


If the Browns win 4 of their final 4 games they will earn a playoff berth.

If the Browns win 3 of their final 4 games they will earn a playoff berth.


If the Browns win 2 of their final 4 games and either the Titans or Colts lose any game, the Browns will earn a playoff game.

If the Colts and Titans both win 3 of their final 3, then the Browns must win 3 of their final 4,
or
have the Dolphins and Ravens both lose once, or

have either the Dolphins or Ravens lose once and have the Bills lose 3 of their final 3, for the Browns to earn a playoff berth.

The Browns hold a same record tie break over the
Colts,
Titans, and the winner of Tonights Ravens at Browns game holds a same record tie break over the loser.

The Browns have a same record lose the tie with
The Bills,
The Chiefs
The Steelers
The Dolphins
The Raiders,
formerly the Patriots who fell off last game
and
The non winner of the Ravens at Browns tonight, a tie would benefit the Ravens.

(at this point; the Bills, Chiefs, Steelers, Dolphins, and Raiders, loss of tie break cannot change ).

(Well unless the Browns literally outscore wins by 110-0 to overturn the Dolphins best 15 ish points/g, strength of victory to the Browns worst 6 ish points/g, strength of victory) and in 3 games overturn the first 9 games' margin of an 11, game sample)

edit: Shoot! I may be wrong about the steelers, (the only way I'm wrong about the steelers is if they actually lose to the bengals. If so, Wake me when the Bengals actually upset the Steelers)



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If the Browns only loss is to the Jets,

and The Steelers lose to the Bengals and Browns,

Both teams 12-4 ... Browns win the division on common games advantage win over Washington Football team vs Steelers lost to Washington Football team,

Browns must Beat Ravens for it to happen.

Wake me if the Bengals actually upset the steelers,
bengals fan told me their year is a cooked goose.

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Right now we need to take care of our business. 1-0

Beat the Ravens.

Get to the playoffs and then everything is the same
1-0.

Pretty simple.

After watching the game last night. We are playing better than both the Steelers and the Ravens.

Neither team is showing balance. We are.

Steelers still have a great defense. However, their offense is one dimensional.

We know how to win. We have a playing personality.

Continue what we do.

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Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
Pitt will finish 2nd and the Browns will win the division.


I think the only way this is possible is if CIN beats PIT. Right now, CIN couldn't compete in the Big Ten.


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The Colts could beat the Steelers.

The Steelers can play poorly and beat the Bengals.

Not so with the Colts.

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Originally Posted By: CapCity Dawg
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Pitt will finish 2nd and the Browns will win the division.


I think the only way this is possible is if CIN beats PIT. Right now, CIN couldn't compete in the Big Ten.


Incorrect...if the Browns win out, and the Steelers lose to the Colts and the Browns, the Browns would win the division.

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I’m growing more nervous about tonight’s game as this week has progressed. We’ve had a fabulous year and exceeded expectations ... losing tonight is not the end of the world, of course. But it would be awfully nice to win smile

I’m worried about them pressuring Baker and him not responding well to it.


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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
We’ve had a fabulous year and exceeded expectations ... losing tonight is not the end of the world


This is where I think every Browns fan should be at. Period.

1-0 every week should be the mentality and if we go 0-1 one week - don't get upset. Making the payoffs this year should be looked at like a freebie bonus.

Agree that the Ravens are going to really test another area of Baker's game - he should see plenty of pressure and plenty of heavily disguised coverages.


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I'm not adjusted my expectations because of 1-2 good games.

We are a talented team with some glaring weaknesses, a bunch of ?'s, and we are still coming together/developing.

All I expect is a competitive game. I'll be ticked if we get embarrassed again.


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Just to clarify we tie the Steelers for overall record we don't necessarily win the division, correct? The Steelers would have a 5-1 record (assuming they beat the Bengals) in the division and the Browns would be 4-2 assuming we win out. In prior years division record was first tie breaker. That would make us a wild card.

Let me know if I am incorrect or this year is different.

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Originally Posted By: OrangeCrush
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Pitt will finish 2nd and the Browns will win the division.


I think the only way this is possible is if CIN beats PIT. Right now, CIN couldn't compete in the Big Ten.


Incorrect...if the Browns win out, and the Steelers lose to the Colts and the Browns, the Browns would win the division.


Yup. I didn't think it through. Math is hard.


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Originally Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN
Just to clarify we tie the Steelers for overall record we don't necessarily win the division, correct? The Steelers would have a 5-1 record (assuming they beat the Bengals) in the division and the Browns would be 4-2 assuming we win out. In prior years division record was first tie breaker. That would make us a wild card.

Let me know if I am incorrect or this year is different.


I believe you are correct. That's why we need to win out and had Pitt lose to Indy. They'd be at 4 losses then and we'd be 13-3. Going to be tough, but Pitt "looks" weak right now and if we get by Baltimore tonight we have a decent chance. Just had to root for Indy.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I’m growing more nervous about tonight’s game as this week has progressed. We’ve had a fabulous year and exceeded expectations ... losing tonight is not the end of the world, of course. But it would be awfully nice to win smile

I’m worried about them pressuring Baker and him not responding well to it.


I'm just the opposite. I'm growing more confident. I think the Browns and Baker have figured some things out since week 1.

I think it will either be a hard, close battle with the outcome going either way or the Browns blow them out.

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Originally Posted By: cle23
Originally Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN
Just to clarify we tie the Steelers for overall record we don't necessarily win the division, correct? The Steelers would have a 5-1 record (assuming they beat the Bengals) in the division and the Browns would be 4-2 assuming we win out. In prior years division record was first tie breaker. That would make us a wild card.

Let me know if I am incorrect or this year is different.


I believe you are correct. That's why we need to win out and had Pitt lose to Indy. They'd be at 4 losses then and we'd be 13-3. Going to be tough, but Pitt "looks" weak right now and if we get by Baltimore tonight we have a decent chance. Just had to root for Indy.



We need to win tonight. Steelers need to lose to Bengals. We could actually lose to the Jets in this scenario and we'd win the division I believe by way of best win percentage vs common opponents.... we beat Washington, they didn't.

There's other scenarios, but I'm ok with this one.

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Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
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Stillers vs Chiefs for consideration.

if the overall record is the same, we'd have 2 teams from different divisions where the tie break sequence goes.

1. Head to head if applicable .(Not)
2. Best Conference record, both AFC conf. vs. the AFC

If those end up equal the next is W-L-T in common games minimum 4.

Steelers, and Chiefs Common games minimum 4
+ for win, - for loss, and TBD for not played yet.

Texans, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +
Broncos, Steelers +, ... Chiefs +, 2nd +

Ravens, Steelers +, 2nd +, ... Chiefs +

Bills, Steelers (TBD in the 4th quarter)
Chiefs, +

Tally, Chiefs 5-0, Steelers, 4-0 (tbd 1)


4, strength of victory
5, strength of schedule
6, combined ranking among conf teams in points scored, and points allowed.



Pitt will finish 2nd and the Browns will win the division.

Browns win tonight and get past the 2 NY teams.

Steelers lose to the Colts who are playing for their lives in week 16 and the Steelers are not playing very well.

Bills have a let down and lose to the Patriots in week 16....

Steelers come to Cleveland in Week 17 and the Browns, if they win, win the division and become the 2 seed in the AFC behind only the Chiefs..

Been looking at wild card games for a few weeks now while also thinking about how winning the division isn't that far fetched.. it's getting closer to a real possibility every week.


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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
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Originally Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN
Just to clarify we tie the Steelers for overall record we don't necessarily win the division, correct? The Steelers would have a 5-1 record (assuming they beat the Bengals) in the division and the Browns would be 4-2 assuming we win out. In prior years division record was first tie breaker. That would make us a wild card.

Let me know if I am incorrect or this year is different.


I believe you are correct. That's why we need to win out and had Pitt lose to Indy. They'd be at 4 losses then and we'd be 13-3. Going to be tough, but Pitt "looks" weak right now and if we get by Baltimore tonight we have a decent chance. Just had to root for Indy.



We need to win tonight. Steelers need to lose to Bengals. We could actually lose to the Jets in this scenario and we'd win the division I believe by way of best win percentage vs common opponents.... we beat Washington, they didn't.

There's other scenarios, but I'm ok with this one.



I don't think we can overstate how important our timely bye week was in this playoff chase. We were able to rest, recover and reload. We have been on fire since. Pitt on the other hand were robbed of their bye week, only getting a couple extra days off at the last minute. They also had to play several games on short rests, including 3 in the last 11 days. They are injured, fatigued and out of gas.


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I feel really bad for them.

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So you're saying the Gods are finally smiling on the Browns!


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These next two games are basically must win games at this point. The week 16 game between the Raiders and Dolphins is also huge. It would be extremely helpful if the Ravens lost but their next three games are against the Jaguars, Giants, and Bengals.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
These next two games are basically must win games at this point.


With that said, if the offense plays like it did against the Titans and Ravens we won't lose to the Giants or Jets.

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These next two games are basically must win games at this point.


With that said, if the offense plays like it did against the Titans and Ravens we won't lose to the Giants or Jets.


yeah offense has been on fire the last couple of games...

we win these next two and we're in... 11-5 gets us in I think


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These next two games are basically must win games at this point.


With that said, if the offense plays like it did against the Titans and Ravens we won't lose to the Giants or Jets.


yeah offense has been on fire the last couple of games...

we win these next two and we're in... 11-5 gets us in I think


There aren't many scenarios where we're 11-5 and miss the playoffs. Just in case it'd be helpful if the Patriots beat the Dolphins next week.

10-6 and it starts to get super iffy.

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I think the next game is the going to determine if we get in or not. If we lose, things get dicey


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It won't matter if the D can't lock down the win. This Rat loss really says a bunch about team.

Giving up 50 or thereabouts can't lead anybody to expect many wins. Not that they gave it up, but did it so easily.


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Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
It won't matter if the D can't lock down the win. This Rat loss really says a bunch about team.

Giving up 50 or thereabouts can't lead anybody to expect many wins. Not that they gave it up, but did it so easily.


Yep - we'll be lucky to get to .500 this year.

This isn't hard... just use the dang playoff machine that's been posted.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

Plug in what you think the results will be - see if we make it.

Plug in some variable results - see what impact it has.

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