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We could have Peppers but we have Sendejo instead.

Neither are a FS you want on the field.

I remember those early season discussions.

I think it's accurate what you wrote about early game struggles - well before the season started you said those things, as did I and others. What we are seeing now could have materialized earlier with a full training camp and preseason ... but I am glad we got here and it is mighty fun to see. There's a couple of things I admire offensively: [1] is that ability to keep running the same look but adding wrinkles, in game and from game to game. A good example of that is the plays where Landry would be in motion from left to right - we had several big plays off that look all different. I think we do this well. [2] the other thing I love/admire - is when a team needs a yard or two and lines up and everyone in the world is expecting a run, and you ram it down their throats and get 3 yards. Executing plays the other team knows is coming but can't stop is fun. I think we have a little of that.

Giants D is also very good / elite ... maybe on the same level as Pit and Baltimore. I'm probably a little more anxious this game than I have been all season - because I'm starting to think about the playoffs in-spite of myself! But like the Ravens - I am looking forward to the game and won't feel less enthusiastic about 9-5 if we lose.

Good post EO.

Do we know if Danny Dimes is starting or if Colt is confirmed?

Sorry if I missed it.

Jones (if he plays) won't be running much with a bum hamstring and ankle.

I don’t think he’ll play .. just a hunch, but they’re trying to keep us guessing IMO

I agree .. well said. Stefanski has improved this team and is very methodical and organized. He and the staff have a plan for everything

Happy birthday Dawg!

Thanks ytown!

On defense, I expect we will hold them to the 17-24 range...I know it is rare, but there are a combination of factors that add up: Ward returning, more Garrett conditioning, a pride bounce, and the Giants' terrible offense.
Match-up I'm most interested in is definitely Garrett vs. the rookie Thomas. But also Redwine in place of Sendejo.

On offense, I do expect a bit of a hangover, especially early. I expect Baker to be a little out of sync, and the Giants' above average D to hold down our run game for awhile. I do think our cohesion and talent will eventually take over, and we get to ~30 points.
Match-up I'm most interested in is how well our OL plays in the run game. The giants run D is their strength, so I expect to be stifled more than normal. If not, this COULD be a blowout (our first beginning to end?!).

Final points.
1. We have not lost 2 in a row. If that holds over the last 3 games here, we are in the playoffs, and I think it will.
2. Everyone overstates the Giants' recent success, IMO. They beat Washington in Alex Smith's first game back, then the Eagles, Bengals, and everyone knows about the Seahawks game. Then they're crushed last week in AZ. In those games, they've averaged 18.6 points on offense. Could they win? Of course. But if we play a vanilla game, with under 8 penalties and a -1 TO margin or better, I don't think so.

Bottom line? We should win but in the past our Browns have done what they shouldn't have done or let happen what shouldn't have so to speak. We need to take every one of our remaining games seriously if we expect to make the playoffs. Oh and a message to our Browns; please try not to let the Giants score just before halftime. It would be greatly appreciated by we the fans.

What evidence have you seen that the Browns have not take a single game seriously this year? I'm curious, because I really haven't seen it.

I don't believe that Stefanski is a coach who will let the team take any opponent lightly. Secondly, this team has shown they can win against average teams and at times above average teams. The Giants at best are an average team. When taking a look at their schedule and the progress we have made over the course of the season, I do not perceive them to be the threat that many appear to.

Jags game?

Thanks Bone .. the rides are going faster and faster!

If true, I almost feel bad for Colt.
We are going to destroy him.

I hope so.

If I were Colt, I would just hope Judge doesn't put me back in the game shortly thereafter (Shurmur 2011).

j/c

Statistically, their run defense that is getting talked up is comparable to the Redskin Football Team. Their pass defense is comparable to ours. Our offense should destroy that.

Offensively, Colt McCoy is and has always been a noodle arm. He is not a deep thrower, he does not have a ton of zip on his passes; outs should be prime for being picked. Their OLine is not playing well, they have almost no receiving threats, nothing much to worry about at RB, and a weak-armed backup QB.... even our defense should be able to handle this.

In short, if we stay within ourselves, play our game, and stay disciplined, this game will be decided at halftime and we will be on cruise control halfway through the 3rd quarter. If we get cocky or start to think we don't have to take it seriously or work for it, then we're hosed. There is no reason the Browns should lose this one.
None.

The weather at MetLife Stadium looks to hover just above freezing with a 20% chance of precip during the game, but little to no wind.

Fumbling might be an issue; ball security is hopefully a big focus for the offense this week, and forcing them to cough it up a big focus of our defense, I hope.

I get the impression that Ski has the offensive side of the ball dialed in even deeper than 1-0. I think he's got them focused per drive. Look at last week when the Ravens ended going up 2 scores. We all could feel that point in the game where it was about to go off the cliff like so many times in the past. Typically that's been the situation where we panic and start throwing things up. There's no confidence in the execution, just throwing noodles against the wall to see if anything sticks. Like we were trying to close a 2 score gap in one play.

But not last week. Our guys played with some urgency but were confident. Its like they realized 'you can't score 2 TDs until you score 1 TD first' And just like the personality of our HC, the Browns systematically and methodically came dug themselves out of the hole.


How many years have we wondered what our offensive and defensive identities were? Offensively I think in the past we've thought that question could have been answered, but almost every time when severely challenged or tasked with being consistent they were exposed.

Now? Holy crap this offense KNOWS who they are from top to bottom. And IT.IS.LEGIT.

So for me the key to beating the Giants is the same as it was the Titans and Ravens... the Browns need to remain true to who they are no matter what. Game plan for the opponent, but don't let the opponent dictate who we are going to be. No more reacting to what the defense gives us. Make the defense react to you.

Defense wins championships...and we don't have it
I'm nervous about this game, I just hope it doesn't turn out like that Cincy game back in '07, where we were favored and had control of our playoff destiny and we crapped the bed. We just don't need another Baker special, where he throws 3 picks this game

Hope that all you are saying comes true. We should wallop a Coilt late in his career, but we could mess that up.

Unleash the Elf!

Hope your right Bone. We CANNOT afford to lose either of the next 2 games!!

The only good thing about it is even if they do decide to start Jones, he has some nagging injuries that should slow him down in terms of scrambling.

Even if Daniel Jones starts, his pocket awareness is awful. Poor guy has really no understanding of feeling the rush. There was numerous times last week where he himself was failing his Oline. Like others have stated, I'm sure him being nicked up will hamper some of his escapability.

In their secondary, they have the flexibility to slide Logan Ryan to corner, and ditto with Julian Love. I know they have been playing Yiadom a lot recently...But Bradberry being out, is def. a plus for us.

I think it's McCoy

Yea Adam shelter said it’s gonna be McCoy.

Gonna be a very interesting Sunday night.

I had no idea Colt was still oin the league until this week..

Every time his name pops up, I'm like: "Really? Dude is still around?"



#campcolt

J/C

Man, I just can’t shake the bad feeling I have about this game. Battered Browns Fan Syndrome. Always waiting for that other shoe to drop.

Freddie guiding Colt I am not worried