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I agree. Forget about the Steelers resting guys. If they do, they do. If they don't they don't.

If we make the playoffs teams aren't going to be resting players.

For all intents and purposes, our playoffs start next week. Go win the game. We have no control over who they play and who they don't.

Game plan to beat the starters at full strength. Anything less is a bonus your way. But I think some serious failings yesterday need to be scrutinized harshly. BM really soiled the effort. Not alone , but can't ignore it. Just need to see what offensive epiphany we have this week.

You know - for as gutting as it was to lose yesterday and play badly in so many aspects of the game:

It's Monday of week 17. We are 10-5. We have a "Win and you are in the playoffs" game coming up on Sunday.

This is not a moral victory ... this is serous progress.

If you know a Browns fan that set higher expectations at the beginning of the season then you can bet they are a big fan that doesn't know very much about football.

Let's Go !

j/c...

Why would the Steelers rest players if they have an opportunity for the #2 seed? Furthermore, they've played like absolute dog crap for 3 1/2 weeks before the late comeback in Indy. I think we will see the Steelers at full strength on Sunday...

No it's not interesting it's TRAGIC!

We get to see divisional games
500 times a decade Already!!

The Worst thing the expletative NFL can do is force us to see them in the playoffs!

Expleatative Tragedy! (I'm still pissed we didnt' get to see the Browns vs Chargers in 2007!)

who the "%$^!! cares about cowboys vs redskins, AGAIN!

OMGOSH AGAIN!!! REALLY!!! Again!!!! for the 5000Th
cuss word time in my lifetime!

Oh no, Bears Packers, it's 300 $#$#$#$# years old!!!

Isn't it amazing, doesn't the whole wide expleatative world want to tune in AGAIN!!!
TO SEE
the nasty bears vs nasty packers matchup again!


NOOOO! NO NO NO NO NO NO NON O NONONO
A Zillion times no!

A cuss word, Tragedy! NFL? -> DENSE!

Agreed. They still need some work.

We can beat the Steelers on Sunday. And I suppose that would considerably blow some chicken-little minds even further in these parts.

And, after the Dolpins won, and because the Ravens won,
that statement above ^ is only true because, ONe of those two didn't happen, or because the Steelers came back to beat the Colts yesterday. <huh

I mean,
If one of the Dolph, Colts, Ravens, hadn't lost, ^^ it wouldn't be true.

This right here. I've watched the past couple Steelers game. Health might be an issue, their bigger issue is simply being completely out of sync.

Well if Browns had beaten the Ravens, (which they can't seem to beat either them or steelers for 100 flippin times)

If the Browns had beaten the Ravens, THEY WOULD HAVE, locked up a playoff berth, with the win at the Giants.

I feel like I read this somewhere before...

The Ravens loss in Cleveland was definitely a heartbreaker, but that made this season the first time they've swept us in the Baker era. I know this doesn't make anyone feel one bit better. Just sayin'.

And Pittsburgh hasn't either. Not yet, that is. Fingers crossed.

Official from #NFL:
Cleveland clinches playoff berth with:
1.CLE win OR
2.IND loss OR
3.TEN loss + MIA win or tie + BAL win or tie OR
4.CLE tie + BAL loss OR
5.CLE tie + MIA loss OR
6.CLE tie + TEN loss OR
7.CLE tie + IND tie OR
8.CLE tie + TEN tie + BAL win + MIA win

https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1343619241266835456

I always liked DeShaun Watson. . .

and he already said he wasn’t gonna sit

as bummed as i am about yesterdays L, nothing would be sweeter than clinching a playoff spot AT HOME in front of the fans against the Stillers.

either way, i am proud of our team.

I feel the same way. Food for thought; we are 7-37 against the Steelers since we came back in "99. Some may say that doesn't mean a thing for next Sundays game but I believe it does. We can't beat this team and after a while it gets in the players heads. I hope I am wrong. We'll see Sunday.

I would say that *could* be true... BUT, we dominated them last year in Cleveland and tied them the year before. A short memory is important in the NFL, if you buy-in, previous domination by the Steelers is all but ancient history.

Steelers can't run very well, they have to beat you through the air.
Now.
Browns, have played 13,14, a bunch of games this year,

Most of the teams, had relative success passing the ball against the Browns.

And, last time the Browns won, they lost Myles for 6 months.
First time Browns played this year, Chubb didn't play.

The game we won was without Big Ben and we only won by 7. Ben R. is 28-3-1 against us.

as much as we want to say “we wanna beat them at full strength” ... honestly we won’t. If they play their starters, namely Ben, we’ll lose.

Basically our season comes down to the Steelers’ mindset. Do they want to rest or stay sharp?

I don’t have confidence in us beating Ben because we basically never have

Have you guys been paying attention for the last 20 years?

The Stoolers will absolutely humiliate us, at home, for the 100th time, to end our season and laugh at us, along with their tooth missing fan-base. It's their guilty pleasure.

All you guys saying you want to play them and beat them to get in are insane. We NEVER beat them and certainly not when there is something actually on the line.

I'll eat my shoe if I'm wrong, but there is literally NO reason why any of us should have any confidence going into this game. I'm sorry to be the wet towel. But it seems like all this new bravado is seriously misplaced given the way we have performed against Ben and tomlin.

Add in the fact that this defense is literally, one of the worst defenses the stoolers have had to face in the last 20 years?

I love the Browns. I always have. I've drawn my family into this mess and watched their hearts get broken over and over again. I honestly feel guilt from this. I really do.

Again, I hope I'm wrong, but we'll have to have a 35 pt lead going into the 4th quarter for me to believe that we can win this game, and even in that scenario, I'd have my doubts.

The Stoolers live for this. And crushing our hearts in the most humiliating fashion is what they live for. And we are victim to it everytime.

We do it everytime.

To make it easier to follow I took out all the tie scenarios since ties are so uncommon.
I also added in the teams opponents.

I beg to differ sir.

1) We HAVE beat them.
2) The past is the past, this team is not the past Browns teams, the past Steeler teams are not this years team.

There's nobody on this team whose head it would be in. Bitonio is the "old man" in Cleveland and he knows well enough about us beating them. They are a tough win, but the mystique isn't there for these guys because none of them have been here for the difficult times.

GC. Website says Browns playoff chances

Everything is now road games only

Steelers 33 percent % at Pittsburgh
Bills 8 percent % at Buffalo
Titans 7 percent % at Tenessee
Colts 2 percent % at Indianapolis.

Elimination, 50 percent % no playoffs.

So Basically

Browns are playing the home game vs. the Steelers for a chance to play a Road game in Pittsburgh to open the playoffs.

( It's going to be a great week everybody )

Every team controlled their own destiny in September,

I agree 100% I don't see us winning Sunday even if all our guys come back. If you expect anything different you will be very disappointed. I hope I'm wrong I want to be wrong but I just don't see it. It's not so much being negative as it is being a realist.

That reminds me of back in the 80's after we finally won one in Pittsburgh after a long drought. Someone asked Webster Slaughter what it's like to finally beat the Three Rivers jinx. He said, "What jinx.....I never lost there".

1-31.... and our first playoff game was a few weeks ago.

Indy is gong to be the Jags so we have to beat the Steelers to get in. Next week is a must win!

All this means is that PIT is in your head.

It remains to be seen if the same holds true for the actual team that takes the field.

It remains to be seen what team will take the field.

yeah, because the team that showed up in Pittsburgh was beaten like a small brother

yeah, because the team that showed up in Pittsburgh was beaten into submission

for us or them lol

Screw Big Ben... I hope he plays... and I hope Myles Garrett tears him a new one...

we're not losing this game....

I like the way you think!