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No doubt. That is 3 mil more that we can allocate to a different player who we feel will bring more to the team.
That 3 mil doesn't have to be allocated to a DE. That 3 mil could be the difference between locking a guy like Teller up for 4 more years.
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Yeah exactly. 3 million is not a drop in the bucket with this year’s cap
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Clayborn was a vet bandaid. Young guys like Gustin showed they could play comparably (PFF had Gustin graded a bit higher.) Clayborn was unlikely to get better at this point in his career. Signing a better edge FA and drafting one to develop doesn't leave many snaps for a role-limited vet.
But he was good for us while he was here. Best of luck to him.
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pretty much where I expected. lots of teams will be making cuts! we have an opportunity to make some moves and benefit from cap casualties.
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This may be one of the wildest FA years since the new CBA in 2011.
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Would this motivate even the upper-crust FAs to take 1-2 year deals in order to properly cash in?
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Would this motivate even the upper-crust FAs to take 1-2 year deals in order to properly cash in? Nope, probably just gonna push for more signing bonuses/guaranteed money to push the cap hit into the future. I expect lots of regrets and dead money 3 years from now.
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I agree. The top tier guys will get their money. It's the tier 2 and 3 guys who will be looking for the 1-2 year deal then they will try to cash in.
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It wouldn’t surprise me if we spent nearly all of that money this off-season.
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So with no restructures we have about $18 million to spend.
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Closer to $17.5M but it looks that way for the time being.
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From what I've been hearing on the sports talk shows Jerry Jones signed Dak to that huge deal because he knows the cap will be going way up in the next year or two once we get by this pandemic and a new TV deal is signed. They said he has some inside info or whatever. I don't know if this is true but it makes sense.
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Everyone knows the cap is going through the roof. They are going to sign TV deals for massive money. On top of that fans will be back.
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Time to spend a really big chunk on the Defense this year that balloons next year to where spending is a bit closer to equitable between the two.
Browns is the Browns
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Time to spend a really big chunk on the Defense this year that balloons next year to where spending is a bit closer to equitable between the two. Yup. I’d expect us to sign a starting safety, two edge guys, and an interior linemen.
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And this is before we pay Baker. I like Hooper's contract less and less the more I think about it.
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And this is before we pay Baker. I like Hooper's contract less and less the more I think about it. The Hooper contract football haunts me. He is getting paid way too much for the the level of production he provides. AND there are a bunch of quality tight ends available this off-season. AND we have two other quality tight ends on the roster. Let’s hope he can produce more with no appendicitis.
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Per spotrac.com
Cap Space (w/Top 51) $24,363,031
Minus (Draft pool) -7,845,228
= $16, 517, 803
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We also need to extend Teller.
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Per spotrac.com
Cap Space (w/Top 51) $24,363,031
Minus (Draft pool) -7,845,228
= $16, 517, 803 Sorry, but that is not quite true. You have to remember that the cap is based on the top 51 largest contracts on the team at any given time. Since the Browns already have over 51 players signed, for any player or draft pick they sign to a new contract for this year, lowest contract drops off. Because our lowest player on the top 51 list is currently making $780k, you can drop that from the cap. So for 9 draft picks, we save roughly $780k x 9 (actually slightly more, since we start dropping off larger contracts), or about $7M. This works for all the free agent signings as well - technically, you can cut $800k off their cap hit for this year when subtracting it from our cap space.
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Per spotrac.com
Cap Space (w/Top 51) $24,363,031
Minus (Draft pool) -7,845,228 -->(aprox)
= $16, 517, 803 Sorry, but that is not quite true. You have to remember that the cap is based on the top 51 largest contracts on the team at any given time. Since the Browns already have over 51 players signed, for any player or draft pick they sign to a new contract for this year, lowest contract drops off. Because our lowest player on the top 51 list is currently making $780k, you can drop that from the cap. So for 9 draft picks, we save roughly $780k x 9 (actually slightly more, since we start dropping off larger contracts), or about $7M. This works for all the free agent signings as well - technically, you can cut $800k off their cap hit for this year when subtracting it from our cap space. Correct, as the subject is fluid ...
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Per spotrac.com
Cap Space (w/Top 51) $24,363,031
Minus (Draft pool) -7,845,228 -->(aprox)
= $16, 517, 803 Sorry, but that is not quite true. You have to remember that the cap is based on the top 51 largest contracts on the team at any given time. Since the Browns already have over 51 players signed, for any player or draft pick they sign to a new contract for this year, lowest contract drops off. Because our lowest player on the top 51 list is currently making $780k, you can drop that from the cap. So for 9 draft picks, we save roughly $780k x 9 (actually slightly more, since we start dropping off larger contracts), or about $7M. This works for all the free agent signings as well - technically, you can cut $800k off their cap hit for this year when subtracting it from our cap space. Correct, as the subject is fluid ... ew
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Add another $2.5 Mil to our cap NFL Network reporting the total cap is set at $182.5 Mil for all teams ...
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I'm going to guess that the fluid is moist.
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We also need to extend Teller. LOL...I was about to ask if we really needed to do that and go in to we needed to extend Teller...for a moment in my mind, I had you saying we needed to extend Treeter. Yes, Teller is a guy we need to get his ink on paper. He is for sure a cornerstone member of the O-line as we look forward 3-4-5 years. He and Jed are the building blocks moving forward. The others are now placeholders. Conklin could be as well. Note to those who get riled up: Placeholder doesn't mean the others suck. It just means they probably aren't here in 3 years.
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I think the cap might go up a bit next year because of this.
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I think some of this year's FA are going to be very happy that they "settled" for one year deals. I read recently that the salary cap could go as high as $230M after the new deal was struck.
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I think the cap might go up a bit next year because of this. Deals do not kick in until 2023. And to think the players signed a 10 year CBA last year. Owning an NFL team is a license to print money. I want one!
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I like Andrew Berry being in charge.
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We have one of the most stacked rosters in the NFL, and are Top 10 in available cap space.
Andrew Berry is a God.
Berry & Depo, forever.
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I have liked everything they have done so far... I feel like we have a really solid front office and coaching staff...
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We have one of the most stacked rosters in the NFL, and are Top 10 in available cap space.
Andrew Berry is a God.
Berry & Depo, forever. The really great thing is they have built the roster in such a way that they #1 raised the level of play on the field #2 Made the Brown organization into a stable organization. #3 Good players are signing up to play with us because they can see this Team is trending towards a dynasty and they want to be a part of that. On every level of this team we are gaining player approval, the fan base is growing into I believe the new America's team. Thrilling for all of us who have watched every other attempt fail. And with the talent we now have and will attract in the future this team edges closer to a destination not a one of us ever expected. We truly need to see tangible results this season, and I see no way we won't. I never thought I would see what we are seeing but I believe I clearly am seeing the building of the next great NFL dynasties.
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At least whisper the word dynasty. That is a pretty big word.
In my whisper.. pssst..you might be right. The key to that is some of our mid round guys need to turn in to solid, productive members.
No doubt you have to hit on your 1st and 2nd rounders. Those guys need to at minimum turn in to plus players or better. You can't miss on many of those. It's the 3rd through 5th round that are going to make the difference. Those guys are going to be the bulk of what makes the real difference.
At some point, good teams aren't defined about their star players. They are determined by how good their meat and potato player become.
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A lot has happened to get here.
The road was long and winding. We can hash over the road and give credit to many.
However, going forward it is about Andrew and Kevin.
As our success grows we will lose players and coaches. But Andrew and Kevin are now driving the bus.
We have assembled the talent. Going forward it is all about managing the talent and adding and subtracting.
We are in the beginning of the glory days.
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What's it going to be when we have to start paying Mayfield, Ward, Chubb
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