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You think he allowed that?

So, what your saying is, you don't want them to have due process?

Fauci, Full Of Crap? Where did you get your medical degree? Trump University?

Here is everything you need to know about the man you think is full of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

NO NO NO ... when you have NOTHING and you know NOTHING but you don't like the EXPERT's opinion about something .... you simply dismiss the expert. It's classic Cult of Trump scripture.

I would add.

In his serving of the best interests of "Big" business, insurance society, big political system, the medical/educational establishment, at the almost entire lack of consideration for the best interests, of
families, and common people.

But who pays who,
We just have to live with it, for now. DeWine isn't up for election, in Ohio with no way to recall a governor, for almost another 2 and a half years iirc.

More reinvented history.

I can understand why you would find using caution and common sense an objectionable way to approach a virus that has killed over half a million Americans.

Faucci is full of crap?

You'd think the superior thinking establishment would come up with a new playbook after all these years and yet seems it shows laziness? Heck no they ain't lazy, or just a lack of willingness to even try,

what I mean is, Everybody's seen the tired old scheme, (one person) to explain things, ?? C'mon! Seriously??

One spokesperson to spew their line of bull? (and pretend it's not bull, but just as altruistic as they say it is)

One spokesperson to tell you to sit down, shut up, eat your pouridge without asking for more, and take the medicine your are given.

The fact that it's one spokesperson, (in this case Dr Faucci), is what I mean when I say, C'mon! No new playbook???

It's 2021 for Goodness sakes, they've got, they've got technologies, to deceive like they didn't even dream of 50-60 years ago.

I'm saying, they couldn't decide to use, 13-14 different voices, faces, to spew the Party line, that Faucci is going to spew?

Why just one person? ONe--- propped up, "authority", ??, why just "one" spokesperson?

I mean take a look at the internet, the world wide web?

It's supposed to be huge, but what do you really have?

7- or 8 sites.

that Spew the government, or various international governments' parties' lines' and control everything??

I mean, everybody might as well go use "wells fargo" for goodness sakes?
It boils down there are only 1 or 2 railroads, only 4 or less shipping companies,
Only 7 or less big banks, only one passenger rail service,
and even the Internet, only 7- or 8 websights.

3 car manufacturers, 3 American anyway.

But only one Dr Faucci? whatever.

I mean with all the people who go through medical school and all of their "set up" instituions like, (Johns Hopkins' to the Cleveland Clinic'), to only have one "Dr Faucci"
seems pretty much
1960's doesn't it?
I'd think there would be 13, or 14 voices.

There are 13 or 14 Judge Judy's and 13 or 14, Dr Phil's.

I can't understand how you think you can continually get away with ascribing words or thoughts to people which they didn't say.

You appear to be the biggest inventor of false realities on this entire board.

I've never come out against caution or common sense!
and I am not a communist!

These 6 things does the LORD hate, yea 7 are an abomination to him.
A proud look,
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations
Feet that move quickly to do mischief
A talebearer that telleth lies.

and He that sows discord among the brethren.

Lying is on that list at least twice!
Proverbs: chaper 6:16-19.

And BTW, there are ten commandments, not six or seven.

And you hold trump on a pedestal?!
Dear God the irony.

EXACTLY, Cult of Trump....Fauci full of crap- he's been married once, raised a family, served Presidents since Reagan and he's full of crap. Wonder what Trump is full of then. ANYONE who voted for Trump has brains of a simpleton. We, the American people elected a guy who proudly is a sexist, who's most famous words were "you're fired"...a soap opera king. We went thru advisors who he appointed, then fired quicker than a sick man goes thru case of Pampers....loads of smart guys, retired generals think he's sick. McCaffery, old drug czar, smartest man I've ever met stated he's unfit to serve as President....look it up. Months after he was defeated his supporters STILL think he's right....he's sick. It hurts me to know he's got so many boot lickers answering to him....WOW, I am/was a Republican, but can't be if that's the best they can put forward....lastly, I've voted Republican every election but the last two...Libertarian once and Biden second....because anyone is better than Trump...he is morally unfit.

Says the guy who doesn't actually debate a point or argue for something ... instead you invent some mind blowing, mind numbing, fake scenario about 'The Demos" ... that is patently false and out of touch with reality and then you construct an argument around your fantasy. Like when you suggest Dems wanted to give millions of dollars to people on welfare and make them billionaires.

And you still refuse to stop lying about the election results which were the "safest in the Nations history" - a quote straight out of Trump's own man.

Learn comprehension.

Coming from you that's the best joke I've heard so far in 2021.

To be fair... nobody actually knows what he's saying. There's an outside chance that he's simply operating on a whole 'nother plane of reality that we can't decipher.

Let me know when you're ready to place odds on that.

The Large Turnaround in the numbers I look at at World-O-meters site in Covid 19 cases,
The turnaround is drastic enough that it cannot wait until the 15th, should be noted today, because it is drastic.

29,744,652 cases
538,628 deaths

A drastically reduced number of Active cases, 8,756,390 (I think was still 9.3, or 9.1 last look)

And the 6 days we can look at for recent days the numbers for the 6 most recent days, (the cases are +, or more than the thousand number listed)
starting with the most recent day and moving back the previous 5 days

45K new cases, 788 new deaths, in the US
44K new cases, 715 new deaths,
59K new cases, 1518 deaths,
69K new cases, 1836 deaths,
68K new cases, 2047 deaths,
67K new cases, 2369 deaths,

Great,,, What's your point?

I'm really curious to see how the trend goes over the next few weeks. I dunno about elsewhere in the country, but the weather here in southern Ohio feels unbelievable (40's-60's). People are going to want to get back out there and do fun stuff (and mingle).

j/c...

That sounds reasonable. I know here in Chattanooga we are shutting down a big testing site and turning it in to the 4th shot location around town. That is probably happening in most places as testing is no longer a big focus.

Also, by that point, people with medical conditions and age 60 and up have probably gotten vaccinated if they desire to do so, so the majority of the people who were actually passing away because of the virus have been vaccinated.

Now it time to open it up to all. Though those people probably won't die, we also don't want them getting very sick because of the virus.

Just a ramble here, maybe some of you know.

I suspect we will have to get a booster every year much like we do with a flu shot based on the best science we have in predicting which variants might be floating around in the predicted future. My question is I wonder if the Covid vaccination and a flu vaccination can be combined in to one?

More people seem to be open to the Covid vaccine because of it viral nature, but flu isn't something minor. That is why it seems people 50 and up are more open to flu shots because the flu can and does kill them.

Another question. Now that covid has circled the globe, I wonder if it will now be more like the flu? Still nothing to sneeze at, but not the panic it caused in 2020.

Covid is more deadlier than the flu ever was. I really don’t think we can ever treat this disease like the flu. Besides this disease basically wiped out the common flu because of masks and social distancing. Covid needs to be defeated and wiped from the earth completely. No prisoners.

His comparison to the flu is accurate, though, in this case. He is talking about a "booster" based on the mutations, and we've already seen some mutations unfold all over the place. I do imagine that there will be yearly or periodic vaccines in the future based upon the fact the corona virus' ability to quickly mutate, which seems to be something it has in common with the flu. I doubt it will ever be totally eradicated. Hopefully we can get it into the same territory as bubonic plague, where it is deadly but not a widespread, legitimate threat, like it is now.

As far as combining the two vaccines, I'm no scientist, but I imagine that might be a load that is too much for many people to contend with if you're activating two sets of antibodies, but hell if I know.

My first thought when reading this is Biden is trying to do a Trump impression. What, does he think the states are just waiting around him to tell them to open up the vaccine to everyone? There are supply and logistics constraints behind why we have to roll this out gradually. As far as I've seen, those constraints have only been somewhat addressed. Throwing open the doors to everyone will just create a crush of demand that the supply (still) won't be able to handle.

Dumb.

I think what he said is based on projected production and a projected increase in vaccine availability.

I mean the states didn't purchase the vaccine. The federal government did. The states didn't negotiate the deals with Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson. They didn't make the deal that combined Merck and Johnson & Johnson to work together to ramp up production. The federal government has set up many vaccination sites and plan to set up more.

Last Friday a record was set of 2.8 million people being vaccinated in one day. Projections I've seen say we surpass 3 million per day by April.

With all of that being said, I would think only Biden and the feds know every detail about the projected timeline of vaccine availability. The states and country only have so many categories of people to consider as priorities.

At some point it will be opened up to everyone that's left. Who better to make such a projection?

When I stop hearing countless (anecdotal they may be) accounts of people who are eligible being unable to get an appointment, then I'll change my tune.

Not really. Opening it up to everyone on May 1st is not the same as saying you'll get it on may 1st.

Also, the number of people/professions that are now able to administer the vaccine was expanded.

Heck I'm one of those people. It still doesn't change the fact that I'm eligible when I can find an open appointment. But I get what you're saying.

Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if there are different capability levels required for administering the JnJ vaccine vs the Pfizer and Moderna ones.

Trump.

"I hope everyone remembers when they’re getting the COVID-19 (often referred to as the China Virus) Vaccine, that if I wasn’t President, you wouldn’t be getting that beautiful 'shot' for 5 years, at best, and probably wouldn’t be getting it at all," read a statement from the former president. "I hope everyone remembers!"

What’s a trump?

I mean, as far as Trump'isms go, this one at least has a shred of truth to it. Operation Warp Speed belongs to him.

But the development of the vaccines doesn't. That belongs to the scientists and the researchers. But then who would be surprised he's trying to take credit for it?

Who would be surprised you said that? You can't give any credit to Trump for ANYTHING. Whose admin. allowed the fastest start to finish ..............eh, never mind.

#stalker

You might be right, but maybe not. This was the first time across the globe. Some type of immunity has to/might develop if it keeps going around.

The Spanish flu of 1918 was also a novel virus that killed nearly 50 million people. Covid around 1.2 million. When you take in to account the world population of today and in 1918, the difference in percentage of people to die is staggering.


I do agree we need to wipe this out, but seeing that it has mutated a few times, I doubt it is going to go away. It's going to come around again, in some form.

At least now we have something to fight it to a degree and hopefully science can stay on top of things and predict the new strains as we now do with the flu and "only" hundreds of thousands of people die, much as due to the flu.

We haven't wiped out the flu. No doubt masks and distancing have helped slow the spread, but people have still been getting flu shots. I get one every Sept when they first come out.

Just a quick check the CDC has the flu number pegged at 9.7 mil to 14 mil. One of the worst flu seasons in a long time, so it is far from wiped out. It just isn't getting the press as in a normal year.

525,00 Americans dead in one year of Covid. For those keeping score at home, tUSA averages 50,000 flu deaths per year, on the high end.

Neil Degrasse Tyson put it perfectly, “Texas removing mask mandates, is like designating a pee zone in a pool”.

If covid is terror, Texas promotes terrorism.