I think, though it's tough, real thinking individuals have to come to grips with the fact we live in a time very hostile to freedom.
I agree, Can you imagine a state where the Governor lifts the Mask Mandate, then has a city that says, no we aren't ready to lift it in our city, then to be sued by the State AG for not following along..
Yup,. there goes freedom.
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#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
So you don't base whether you need a vaccine based on over 500,000 deaths, but rather on who says you should get one.
I'm just now reading your reply.
If you'll come into this discussion knowing that I think, and I am coming into it from a place that Biden is a known liar based on the lie of the election results, and his comments indicating he'd know the falsifying of election results would play out, to put the election in his favor, over the course of several days to a couple of weeks, Comments he made a day or two after the election.
So, my explanation, if a "who says you should get one" is a known liar, in my book, and can't be trusted about the election, then he can't be trusted about a vaccine.
So you don't base whether you need a vaccine based on over 500,000 deaths, but rather on who says you should get one.
I'm just now reading your reply.
If you'll come into this discussion knowing that I think, and I am coming into it from a place that Biden is a known liar based on the lie of the election results, and his comments indicating he'd know the falsifying of election results would play out, to put the election in his favor, over the course of several days to a couple of weeks, Comments he made a day or two after the election.
So, my explanation, if a "who says you should get one" is a known liar, in my book, and can't be trusted about the election, then he can't be trusted about a vaccine.
But isn’t it ‘trump’s’ vaccine. I mean you’ve come on here saying if not for donny we’d not even have the vaccine. But you won’t take the ‘trump’ vaccine because of Biden now? Man your brain must hurt navigating your labyrinth of opposing views.
The thing that irks me the most about him recently is how he "quietly" received the vaccine. Every living president I believe, except for him, has championed their receipt of the vaccine.
If he did the same, I bet a bunch of his supporters who don't want to receive the vaccine would change their tune.
I'm Sure he would have Loudly Tweeted, (probably live tweeted) his receiving of the vaccine); so with his account suspended, being irked that he quietly ... is asking to have it both ways.
You can't have it both ways; everybdody knows that.
The thing that irks me the most about him recently is how he "quietly" received the vaccine. Every living president I believe, except for him, has championed their receipt of the vaccine.
If he did the same, I bet a bunch of his supporters who don't want to receive the vaccine would change their tune.
I'm Sure he would have Loudly Tweeted, (probably live tweeted) his receiving of the vaccine); so with his account suspended, being irked that he quietly ... is asking to have it both ways.
You can't have it both ways; everybdody knows that.
He’s a former president. If he wanted a platform he could have called Faux ‘news’, or Tucker, or Hannity and blathered on about taking ‘his’ vaccine. He’s a crap human and a worse leader. So he took it silently and kept his followers frothing and science denying.
So you don't base whether you need a vaccine based on over 500,000 deaths, but rather on who says you should get one.
I'm just now reading your reply.
If you'll come into this discussion knowing that I think, and I am coming into it from a place that Biden is a known liar based on the lie of the election results, and his comments indicating he'd know the falsifying of election results would play out, to put the election in his favor, over the course of several days to a couple of weeks, Comments he made a day or two after the election.
So, my explanation, if a "who says you should get one" is a known liar, in my book, and can't be trusted about the election, then he can't be trusted about a vaccine.
WHAT?
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Despite zero evidence and "every court in the land" dismissing the idea that the election was stolen ... despite Trump's on election Tzar proclaiming it the safest election the USA has ever run .... we still have crazies who are so ingrained in the Trump of Cult that they believe Trump's lies. Nothing you can do to change that - they'll go to their grave in ignorance rather than seek the truth.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
... while failing miserably in presenting any sort of evidence-based defense.
Lots of people say lots of things... it doesn't make it true.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
Lol you’re quoting Eric Trump as proof of anything. ROTFLMAO
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
Lol you’re quoting Eric Trump as proof of anything. ROTFLMAO
Beyond that, it's like the whole idea of voter turnout doesn't even exist.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
Pretzel Logic for sure. 1) People determine the winner, not counties. 2) There were a lot more people that voted in 2020 as a whole.
The per-functionary comment about liars and statistics...
Wrong. The sane amongst those 74 million have accepted their defeat.
Proof/link?
74 million people voted for Trump. That is not representative of the amount of people who think the election is stolen. People who vote for a losing politician don't automatically assume the election was stolen.
It's pretty basic logic.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
The least you can do is quote someone with cred.... Eric Trump is a shill for his dad..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Is he the one that SNL depicts as, um... challenged?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
With a dismal horrible 38% approval rating, worse than any other president ever, trump gained 10 million more votes in 2020 than in 2016....please.... #biglie.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Eric Trump @EricTrump · Nov 30, 2020 Biden lost 212 more counties than Obama did in 2012 (Biden won 477 counties vs Obama who won 689), yet Biden magically gained 13 million more votes than Obama... please... #RiggedElection
Pretzel Logic for sure. 1) People determine the winner, not counties. 2) There were a lot more people that voted in 2020 as a whole.
The per-functionary comment about liars and statistics...
Neither Donald or Eric actually believe the Election was stolen - that's just a "story" to put out there to rile the Cult of Trump. . . . only true morons could even begin to believe those lies, but there are fools out there that would rather believe the words of a known pathological liar than the legal process of the land and other Republicans that were in charge of the various processes that lead to the Biden win.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Even the Republican election officials in the red states admit Biden won and the election wasn't stolen. Courts on every level across the United states rebuked every challenge to the election results. The only people holding on to that fable are blind followers who will believe anything Trump tells them.
Trump is the one who tried to steal the election. We actually heard it on tape. He told Georgia election officials to "find votes" that weren't there.
And some of his supporters were willing to install a fascist dictator over democracy. They are the enemy of The United States.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Even the Republican election officials in the red states admit Biden won and the election wasn't stolen. Courts on every level across the United states rebuked every challenge to the election results. The only people holding on to that fable are blind followers who will believe anything Trump tells them.
Trump is the one who tried to steal the election. We actually heard it on tape. He told Georgia election officials to "find votes" that weren't there.
And some of his supporters were willing to install a fascist dictator over democracy. They are the enemy of The United States.
I think everything you just wrote is 100% correct.. I agree with you.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Trump is the one who tried to steal the election. We actually heard it on tape. He told Georgia election officials to "find votes" that weren't there.
But did he actually say that? The original report by the Washington Post (and their one source reporting) had to be corrected because the Wall Street Journal published the phone call. From the transcripts I read he didn't say what you say he did.
I only quoted part of your post because I don't disagree with the rest of it.
There are two phone calls. One recorded and played by news media a couple months ago. . . . Then a second call was discovered. That 2nd call wasn't supposed to have been recorded. So when the wsj or whichever publication did the article on the second call they were going off reporting/interviews with the participants. A recording of that call was later discovered. The correction by the media it's as over the exact wording of what Trump said. Not what the inference was.
Also in the First call that was publicly aired by the GA lawyer who recorded it, trump very definitely said 'just find me XXX number of votes" and the number happened to be the exact never for him to overturn the result.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
There is the entire phone call. Yes, he said it. He certainly also applied pressure on them including future criminal charges against them if they didn't. It's all there in Trump's own words.
I'm not sure what you would call an insurrection spurred on by the saying "Stop the steal" other than an attempt to overthrow a fair election. And if that's true I have no idea what you would call the people involved besides the enemy to The United States.
I mean I guess you can make excuses because they believed that lie. But many people throughout history have tried to overthrow governments based on falsehoods. That doesn't change the reality of their actions.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know about a second call. Not sure why you went on a diatribe about insurrection when I said I agreed with the rest of your post?