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No she can't

Eve with the old "I know you are but what am I" argument.

Biden couldnt care less that US gas infrastructure had to pay a ransom to russian hackers to be allowed to function.

Get this senile muppet out of here.

And the Energy Secretary's response...Granholm said. “And, you know, if you drive an electric car, this would not be affecting you, clearly. “ translation... " Let them eat cake"

I'd argue Colonial Pipeline was pleased to pay only a small $5M ransom which was likely paid by a cyber insurance policy, as opposed to a more costly approach of investing heavily in their own cybersecurity infrastructure.

"Colonial Pipeline Co. paid nearly $5 million to Eastern European hackers on Friday, contradicting reports earlier this week that the company had no intention of paying an extortion fee to help restore the country’s largest fuel pipeline."

This isnt about what the pipeline was pleased to do. Guaranteed they werent pleased to do that.

So youre ok with a president who is fine with our infrastructure being under the control of russian hackers, and thinks its ok to pay them ransoms?

We need a president with a spine.

We've been behind on cybersecurity for a long time now. Biden definitely needs to develop a plan to step up in that regard. It baffles me that we've been comfortable having our pants down this long on that front.

As far as having a president with a spine when it comes to Russia.......

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Just wanted to add that the Government has not been tough enough on private sector to step up in this regard. I tend to be more "hands off" when it comes to the Government getting into the private sector, but I think this meets the whole "guard rail" necessity that I have mentioned before.

We've seen time and time again where cyber breaches have happened to company after company and we all get the "Hey, everyone stole your information we have on file. Here's a year's worth of identity protection. Good luck!"

There's no carrot OR stick OR infrastructural investment from the Government from any administration in recent memory that I can think of who actually tried to get this corrected.

Drives me crazy.

You're probably right, corporate malfeasance isn't a thing.

This is the same company that recently lied about a gas leak to protect their own financial interests.

Biden should use this situation to include cyber security in his infrastructure bill. On the flip side, private companies should be responsible for their own cyber security?

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/local/...33-3975d0573f2e

Yeah, I agree. There needs to be better infrastructure to enable better cyber security and there has to be ramifications to company's who negligently or recklessly let this stuff happen.

As it is, if it doesn't affect their bottom line, they won't care.

So you dont care that Biden is fine with paying russian hackers ransoms to keep our infrastructure intact?

Getting involved/canceling keystone was ok, and so its ok if our other existing infrastructure is at risk?

I guess the eastern United States doesnt really need to function according to the Biden apologists.

Bingo.

$5M is walk around money for a billion dollar company. I'd be shocked if they had not performed a risk aanalysis when it comes to a cyber insurance policy compared to heavily investing and maintaining their own cyber security program.

Do you even work in the real world? What a bunch of made up crap.

This is nonsensical. This is private company. Biden did not pay a ransom. He chose to allow a private company to make their own decision on paying the ransom.

I said cyber security should be added to Biden's infrastructure bill. That seemed clear.

I work in outer space!

Its United States infrastructure that affects the entire eastern United States. Biden better be on top of it. He wasnt. He's ok with russian hackers controlling our infrastructure. He was straight asked about it and he had no comment.

That is negligent on his part. And embarassing in the world arena.

Clearly.

Y’all really panic-bought gas like the great toilet paper crisis. Good lord.

I read somewhere today that they said there was no proof it was Russia.

I'm as left as it gets around here and I think Biden not stepping in to at minimum make sure this doesn't happen again is just nuts. Although I'm not sure we would even know if he had.

And this isn't the first attack on our infrastructure, wasn't too long ago they were talking about a breach in the electric grid and I've heard all kinds of stories about how vulnerable our water supply is. So your damn right infrastructure should be part of the bill.

Here's the problem:

1) Cyber Security is a field where the good guys are always trying to stay ahead of the bad guys, but they have no idea when where or how the bad guys will come at them. Cyber is basically anything connected to a computer. Everything from private networks to the public internet can be a target and that is pretty much everything these days.

2) There are a crazy number of ways to hack just about anything. It can be an in person hack where somebody just plugs a usb stick in and in a few microseconds you're breached. It can be a phishing attack where they trick somebody into downloading a virus, visiting a certain page that will load a virus, or even opening an email or pdf file. It can be data sniffing as a man in the middle attack, spoofed emails or domains and IP addresses. Heck you can even call somebody at their work desk pretending to be with it/security and get them to give you their login method and creds... with a PHONE CALL! Cyber security measures can't stop stupid and people in general aren't that bright especially when it comes to cyber vulnerabilities.

3) You don't have to be a genius to hack somebody. If you can talk on the phone, plug in a usb flash drive, or learn from internet courses following easy directions then you can hack. Bad actor nations can assemble teams for hacking pretty easily because you don't have to be a genius to download kali linux and some freely available software to do a thorough search for vulnerabilities and apply various attacks accordingly. You can also pay for customized viruses or for somebody to use their botnet to do a denial of service attack. It's online if you know where to look and got at least a day to learn the basics.

So before the US spends a trillion on the outfit that built the Obamacare website to try and beef up security, I think they should just pay google or amazon to set them up and provide security/IT.

Who has been warning us about Russians again? Was it Trump..... Nope..

Biden isn't the problem.. Its 4 years of allowing the Russians to do whatever they wanted...

Wish and hope all you want,, this isn't on Biden.. This is on Trump...

I think it is admirable how you keep trying so hard..

After some time, you will learn.

j/c...



Jennifer Jacobs
@JenniferJJacobs
Biden admin gave permission last night for another foreign tanker to deliver fuel to US East Coast.

1st tanker given permission is owned by Valero, @jendlouhyhc
reports

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1393198803172352000

Don't these companies have regular backups?

We got hit by ransomware on our Point-of-Sale server about 4 months ago, in a period of about 3 hours I was able to review the previous nights backup as clean and restore it.

Now we are a much smaller organization, but the concept and process is the same.

Hell, they helped elect the last president and you didn't have a problem with it.

Survey: 56 percent of utilities have faced a cyberattack in the last year

https://dailyenergyinsider.com/infrastru...-last-year/?amp

Where were you then?

Actually from reports I have seen they ended up using their own back up system to restore it rather than what the hackers provided because their own back up system was faster.

Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Millions in Ransom

As of Thursday, the company says they’ve made “substantial progress” in restarting the pipeline system

Colonial Pipeline, which was forced to shut down operations last week due to a ransomware attack, paid nearly $5 million to hackers to restart their fuel pipeline.

According to a Bloomberg report that has since been confirmed by multiple outlets, the company that operates the largest gasoline pipeline in the country paid the ransom using cryptocurrency just hours following the attack, despite several reports to the contrary. DarkSide, a digital extortion group, is believed to be responsible for the hack.

Following payment, Bloomberg reported, the hackers provided the company with a decrypting tool to restore the offline network, but Colonial Pipeline continued to use its own backup systems to restart because the tool they paid for worked too slowly. The FBI usually advises companies not to pay ransoms from these types of groups because there is no way to ensure the hackers will follow through and return the files.

Colonial’s pipelines are a crucial delivery system for the eastern seaboard of the United States. According to the company, their pipelines transport 2.5 million barrels per day and supply approximately 45 percent of all fuel used on the East Coast.

As of Thursday, the company says they’ve made “substantial progress” in restarting the pipeline system. But according to CNN, citing statistics from GasBuddy, a platform that tracks fuel demand, prices, and outages, widespread shortages are expected to last for days. The network reports 71 percent of the gas stations in North Carolina, 55 percent in Virginia and 49 percent in Georgia are without gas.

On Thursday Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said the restart “should mean things will return to normal by the end of the weekend.”

This week, President Joe Biden signed an executive order aimed at strengthening U.S. cybersecurity. The order, among other steps, requires IT service providers, to tell the government about cybersecurity breaches, establishes a cybersecurity safety review board, and mandates the deployment of multifactor authentication and encryption methods.

“The federal government needs to make bold changes and significant investments in order to defend the vital institutions that underpin the American way of life,” Biden said in the order.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/colonial-pipeline-paid-hackers-ransom-1169180/

If I give up, what will happen? People who believe as some on here do, and that could be the ruination of the USA.. I can't stop

Good, but still, I am not trusting hackers "tools" who knows what else they implement with the "tool".

I wouldn't trust them either...

Yeah, that's a good point. Plus, what guarantee do you have that it's going to even work? Call the hacker customer service line to file a warranty claim??

Right, cause I'm going to send 5mil to people who just hacked my system and trust they are going to deliver the "tools" to unlock everything.

I agree with you. I liken it to hiring a person who kidnapped your child as your baby sitter.

jc

SCANDALOUS!



Every American should see the comments and replies in that thread. One person said this:




While others took a more cynical stance:

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Inconvenient fact for liberals.

https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/

I see where VP Harris has violated her pledge to make public all of her holdings.

LOL

Here's an inconvenient fact for you, Didn't trump and kushner broker peace in the middle east? What happened to that failed attempt?

Yes. It was the greatest most amazing peace deal ever brokered. Really really peacy. Some say the most peace ever brokered. Many people have told me that. Really good people. The best.

And those countries that signed the Abraham Accords have denounced Hamas for their attacks on Israel. They see this for what it is a terrorist organization Hamas attacking a sovereign nation. This is not the Palestinian people attacking Israel this is a terrorist organization Hamas. Funded by Iran. A country that has openly said it's end goal is complete utter destruction of Israel.

I know living trusts are very common, especially with financial elite, so I don't necessarily have a problem with her using one, but yes, I agree, she should disclose what is in the trust if that is part of their campaign pledge.

Just like Trump's tax returns, the failure or refusal to disclose such things - to me - exacerbates things.